handheld stingers please ...

[Boojie]

Re: handheld stingers please ...

Does anyone besides me think the game is pretty much fine? The only thing that needs to be address are the bugs. Geez, this is worse then the CS community cryin. :hmm:

Uh...no. But the guy that responded to your comments pretty much said it all, in a rather eloquent way.

I really do think they should release two versions of BF2. Give us a man's game with more balance and strategy involved, and leave the current version for the kids that want to carpet bomb helpless victims.

I'd rather work real hard to get to sargeant than to be some lame master sgt that got all his points by carpet bombing. I'm not accusing you, I have no idea what your stats are, but I also pay no mind to the current stats since they're meaningless. As it stands right now, I actually avoid being a commander and the air vehicles -- the points come too easy.

[={SOC}= Sniper]

Re: handheld stingers please ...

Nice idea!

[raceacontari]

Re: handheld stingers please ...

I'd rather work real hard to get to sargeant than to be some lame master sgt that got all his points by carpet bombing. .

Up until I had about 30,000 points I never even bothered to fly unless I was really bored. Not all of the people that have a lot of points like I do have just carpet bombed or something like that to get points. In fact I prefer to be on the ground fighting, and I personally don't want hand held stingers in the game. Since I do know how to fly both chopper and both jets, I know it would just cause havoc trying to do anything. So the solution would be if they did put in hand held AA, it would be just as crappy as the AA is now, and you probably would only get 1 or two shots. The solution is just making the normal AA work properly. Make it hit less friendlies and more enemies. Make it not fly randomly to the left or right when you have a perfect lock onto a hovering chopper that doesnt even deploy flares that is only a 100 feet away. That is the solution. When the jet pilots fear gunning down an active AA turrent (something that today will have the AA win maybe 1 out of 20 times), then we know that the AA is fixed. Hand held stingers is an ok idea, but you have to see that it would also cause havoc for not just enemy pilots, but the pilots on your side as well. Air power was put in the game for a reason...and though I hate jets...I hate being bombed to crap...and I think that there should only be fighter jets like the f-18 and mig's and no f-15's with their easy killing bombs...I still think it wouldn't work. There has to be a balance, and making it so all 32 people on your side can possibly carry a stinger missile around with you anywhere you want would ground any air vehicle and turn it into an armor paradice. The solution is just to fix the AA as it is now...and if that still doesn't work...then I don't know. Maybe make it harder for jets to rearm their bombs or something.

[Odedge]

Re: handheld stingers please ...

Up until I had about 30,000 points I never even bothered to fly unless I was really bored. Not all of the people that have a lot of points like I do have just carpet bombed or something like that to get points. In fact I prefer to be on the ground fighting, and I personally don't want hand held stingers in the game. Since I do know how to fly both chopper and both jets, I know it would just cause havoc trying to do anything. So the solution would be if they did put in hand held AA, it would be just as crappy as the AA is now, and you probably would only get 1 or two shots. The solution is just making the normal AA work properly. Make it hit less friendlies and more enemies. Make it not fly randomly to the left or right when you have a perfect lock onto a hovering chopper that doesnt even deploy flares that is only a 100 feet away. That is the solution. When the jet pilots fear gunning down an active AA turrent (something that today will have the AA win maybe 1 out of 20 times), then we know that the AA is fixed. Hand held stingers is an ok idea, but you have to see that it would also cause havoc for not just enemy pilots, but the pilots on your side as well. Air power was put in the game for a reason...and though I hate jets...I hate being bombed to crap...and I think that there should only be fighter jets like the f-18 and mig's and no f-15's with their easy killing bombs...I still think it wouldn't work. There has to be a balance, and making it so all 32 people on your side can possibly carry a stinger missile around with you anywhere you want would ground any air vehicle and turn it into an armor paradice. The solution is just to fix the AA as it is now...and if that still doesn't work...then I don't know. Maybe make it harder for jets to rearm their bombs or something.

You bring up some good ideas. When I fly a chopper on some maps (Kubra Dam), it seems like you can constantly be in some one's AA lock or getting shot by the jets and jeeps. If every AT kit has the option of portable stingers, it would give helicopter pilots a freaking head ache.

They obviously need to improve the AA. I like your idea of getting rid of bombers in general. I see too many times a bomber coming down, 10 feet of the ground drooping 5 bombs and then fly away to get rearmed by flying over an airstrip for 2 seconds.

The jets should be more concerned with air power like other jets and helicopters. Give them their machine guns and missiles. Maybe give some a bomb instead of missiles. But that bomb has to be dropped from a reasonable altitude and they have to be fairly accurate with me.

The TV missile in the chopper is a very powerful weapon. But, you must be skilled with hit and actually hit your target, not come close. I think jets need more skill to bomb people.

[[WOLF]bbob]

Re: handheld stingers please ...

anti air is useless because it is sationary and it blips up like a bigass marker saying "SHOOT ME FFS!"

Either remove the hud's ability to track stingers/TOW's or just remove the ability alltogether..

[DrunkenPirate]

Re: handheld stingers please ...

Handheld stingers? certainly! have a look at poe update #54 :p :p

[dirtylarryuk]

Re: handheld stingers please ...

Joinmt Ops already has stingers and they are a real nemesis to choppers. On copter only maps 2-3 jeeps with 50 clas make a mess of any copter. You just have to work together.

Yes a tank can nail a copter but if you miss the copter will normally nail you. You have to hit.

Jeeps and 50 clas also nail planes but planes can run away and repair much faster.

I think planes should land to repair, not rearm but repair. This means if they fly over bomb and blat but get 50% dam from 2 or 3 50 cal's then they have to disappear and repair for at least 1 or 2 mins.

Same way only an engineer should be the only thing to repair an AA and pilot should get an extra point for nailing a manned AA or ground defense item.

Perhaps if you fly over an airfield you should rearm and repair slower then if you land. Same for copters.

[={SOC}= Sniper]

Re: handheld stingers please ...

anti air is useless because it is sationary and it blips up like a bigass marker saying "SHOOT ME FFS!"

Either remove the hud's ability to track stingers/TOW's or just remove the ability alltogether..

LOL man that was funny:laugh:

[The Skugg]

Re: handheld stingers please ...

copied from this thread

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49096&page=5

I would like to see an Stinger for the at kit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIM-92_Stinger

Planes and choppers could not see them as a lock on so you could use cover. Against a up close chopper (say camping a spawn or capping a flag) they are to fast for them to dodge.

Also increase there lock on range and homing ablity. this would let you get those fast @%# jets.

Im not sure how many hits it takes to take down a plane with stingers (never actually accomplised it) but an increase to damage could help. 2 shots to plane or chopper should = on fire.

[The Skugg]

Re: handheld stingers please ...

Why was ={SOC}= Sniper banned?