Commander should be punished for TK bring it back?

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  • imported_Osis
    Member
    • Nov 2005
    • 283

    #46
    Re: Commander should be punished for TK bring it back?

    Punish the Commander? great idea. really stupid. Everytime you place arty, some stupid guys run into it and ignore every warning.

    It´s really hard. And then they told you how stupid you are...

    But that´s real problem on publics that the commander is "only" a feature, but most of the guys don´t care about that what he say...

    an punisch the Comander is no solution for stupid lemmings...

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    • imported_NoRC

      #47
      Re: Commander should be punished for TK bring it back?

      Personally I think they should adjust the way the TK and Arty works... If the commander launches arty into an area and your in the 'designated' red circle then you can punish... if how ever he launches arty then you move into set area (red circle of death) then you can not punish. Im so sick of nearly capping a flag or pinning down a bunch of enemeys to be TK'd by a ****stain commander who just loves to push his big red button with no worry of recourse. I think a halfway mark could easly be reached where this system would cause the commander not to launch arty into an area with teammates in it, and also cause those idiots who run into a red circle of death to avoid doing that because they can not be punished, hell why not give the commander the option to punish teammates who go into the red circle of death? I mean you cost the team tickets by going in there... you should be punished.


      Thoughts anyone?

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      • EsP-Grandpa

        #48
        Re: Commander should be punished for TK bring it back?

        Originally posted by NoRC
        Personally I think they should adjust the way the TK and Arty works... If the commander launches arty into an area and your in the 'designated' red circle then you can punish... if how ever he launches arty then you move into set area (red circle of death) then you can not punish. Im so sick of nearly capping a flag or pinning down a bunch of enemeys to be TK'd by a ****stain commander who just loves to push his big red button with no worry of recourse. I think a halfway mark could easly be reached where this system would cause the commander not to launch arty into an area with teammates in it, and also cause those idiots who run into a red circle of death to avoid doing that because they can not be punished, hell why not give the commander the option to punish teammates who go into the red circle of death? I mean you cost the team tickets by going in there... you should be punished.


        Thoughts anyone?
        NoRC,

        This happened last night as I was commanding:

        One single guy was capping a flag. He not a squad leader (the commander can only talk to squad leaders with the ingame VOIP), AND his squad leader was not on comms.

        I see FIVE tangos coming to the same flag. IF he, or his squad leader were on comms, I could say "5 Enemies heading your way, get out". He is not.

        I have a CHOICE:

        1) No Arty, watch the 5 guys kill my guy, cap the flag and the flag is lost.
        2) Arty, which will kill the guy capping the flag (because he of course is too concerned with capping the flag, not hearing "ARTILLERY, YOUR AREA" and not looking at the minimap), BUT at least leave the flag neutral.

        I sent the arty to the flag. Killed my guy, killed five of them. Kept the flag neutral. I was able to direct two guys from a nearby squad to finish capping the flag.

        He was mad. He would have penned me if he could. Started a vote kick.
        I WOULD DO IT AGAIN.

        TALK to your COMMANDER! Buy a microphone and headset.

        IF YOU STAY IN THE BIG RED CIRCLE, OR GO INTO IT, IT IS YOUR FAULT:cry: YOU DIE, NOT THE COMMANDERS! You get an AUDIO warning ("Artillery, YOUR area") and a Visual (BIG red circle on mini map).

        What more do you want?

        Gramps

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        • MWHRowdee

          #49
          Re: Commander should be punished for TK bring it back?

          Boo Hoo to you guys when the big red arty icon comes up AND the commander is telling you to get the heck out the way. BOOM and the you are p***** because you were too stupid to get out the way....BOO HOO

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          • imported_Zach
            Member
            • Jun 2005
            • 770

            #50
            Re: Commander should be punished for TK bring it back?

            I can say the following with complete objectivity since my stats will show you that I have 0:00:00 hours logged in as Commander. :)

            For a week or two after the 1.03 patch, I admit it was a little annoying how all commanders used their artillery anywhere and everywhere not seeming to care if it was really needed are not.

            Now that the thrill has subsided, arty use seems to be back to normal, and given that, no, I generally trust the Commander's reasons for using his artillery, and if I can't get out of the way in time, then too bad for me. :)

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            • Revoluti0n
              Member
              • Mar 2006
              • 3032

              #51
              Re: Commander should be punished for TK ?

              Originally posted by PunisherUK
              Yes Bring it back

              No, too many idiots run into my big red arty circle
              So you want to be punished for those idiots running into your big red circle?

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              • The Question

                #52
                Re: Commander should be punished for TK ?

                Originally posted by PunisherUK
                Yes Bring it back

                No, too many idiots run into my big red arty circle
                As our good friend Jagger once said, you can't always get what you want.

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                • Kaiser_Weber

                  #53
                  Re: Commander should be punished for TK bring it back?

                  The only thing I would change is to lower the amount of peps it takes to Mutiny a commander. If a commander is TKing with his arty he should be kicked from commander.

                  To all the commanders like me that get an accidental TKs by stupid troops running in there..Its not our fault. You have to trust your commander that he is doing the right thing. He can see the entire battlefield and can watch the opposition troops and place arty to counter them and help you(I DO).

                  The problem here is stupid troops and stupid commanders, they ruin everything for the rest of us just trying to have a good time. What can be done about these troops? Nothings!

                  Get used to it. Stupid people are everywhere in life!

                  My solution: Get your own server and play with your friends and kick stupid people so you don't have to play with them. If you don't wanna do that then get used to it!

                  EDIT: Also, IF a commander is TKing his troops it is ultimately hurting him in the end cause his score is doubled if his team wins and the more tks he gets the more tickets are lost and the closer they are to losing. SO trust your COMMANDER!

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                  • iewgnem

                    #54
                    Re: Commander should be punished for TK bring it back?

                    No, dont bring it back

                    There are enough idiots playing the game already, there was a squad leader that requested for artilitary, and ran into the middle of it, after getting tked smack talked me about not being careful.

                    its good enough we dont get poitns for kill those idiots.

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                    • N2K

                      #55
                      Re: Commander should be punished for TK bring it back?

                      i get hit by arty when im trying to stay alive, at an area, before im about to take the last guy from the enemy squad im up in the air from friendly arty, which makes me hard to defend a post

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                      • evilzucchini

                        #56
                        Re: Commander should be punished for TK bring it back?

                        I am 99% sure that the commander still loses points for artying friendly units. The only thing removed was the default kicking of the commander for a certain number of TK punishes.

                        So, the commander still loses points and would be FOOLISH to drop it on his own people even if they were outnumbered. You get more points if your guy takes out 1 or 2 of them then you get by losing points by artying them!

                        And now a commander doesn't get booted from a server when idiots run under his arty.

                        I think the setup is perfect.

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                        • Steve1989

                          #57
                          Re: Commander should be punished for TK bring it back?

                          Originally posted by PunisherUK
                          But then saying that, you get the odd idiot that applies for commander just so he can rain artillery down on his own team because he knows his score is not affected.
                          I have not seen that yet...

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                          • Steve1989

                            #58
                            Re: Commander should be punished for TK bring it back?

                            [QUOTE=evilzucchini]I am 99% sure that the commander still loses points for artying friendly units. The only thing removed was the default kicking of the commander for a certain number of TK punishes.
                            [QUOTE]

                            99% sure eh? well the thing is, allied artillary doesn't hurt teamates so it's kinda hard...

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                            • evilzucchini

                              #59
                              Re: Commander should be punished for TK bring it back?

                              Steve,
                              It only doesn't hurt friendlies on servers where FF is turned off (even then I am not sure as I HATE playing on those types of servers). But I have sure as hell been killed by friendly artillery. But thanks for the obnoxious comment anyway.

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                              • imported_Zach
                                Member
                                • Jun 2005
                                • 770

                                #60
                                Re: Commander should be punished for TK bring it back?

                                Originally posted by Steve1989
                                99% sure eh? well the thing is, allied artillary doesn't hurt teamates so it's kinda hard...
                                Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but I think you must only play on unranked servers where friendly-fire is disabled if you think that.

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