Commander should be punished for TK bring it back?

[PunisherUK]

Yes Bring it back

No, too many idiots run into my big red arty circle

[gungho]

Re: Commander should be punished for TK bring it back?

it ought to be a server option

[PunisherUK]

Re: Commander should be punished for TK bring it back?

Yes Bring it back

No, too many idiots run into my big red arty circle

What do you think guys?

EDIT

Wrong quote

But yes it should be a server option, best idea yet

[death.panther]

Re: Commander should be punished for TK bring it back?

The idea of server option is good but, no it should not be on by default. I have issues of being punished because someone is not smart enought to se the flashing red arti on there map and the arti in your area warning. But the other way they could fix this is if you are TK'ed buy friendly arti make it insatant respawn, no waiting.

[WarGimp]

Re: Commander should be punished for TK bring it back?

I'd say no... not unless they also brought back points for artillery kills, but that's just a bad idea since it encorages commanders to spam artillery endlessly reguardless of it helping the team or not.

As things are now, it's harder to get high commander scores. Even accedental Arty TKs would knock that score down even further. I still see plenty of bone heads rush right into the middle of an arty barrage.

It might be a better idea to automaticly remove commanders that have shelled their own troops too many times.

[tjmhay]

Re: Commander should be punished for TK bring it back?

I think there should be different warning to the default "artilery your area" under the squad messages section of the command screen. I hear the default one so much I tend to switch off to it. If the commander actively use another voice command like "Get out of their soldier, Bombardment underway!" I think i'd pay attention to it - especially if i heard it twice.

Even then, I see no reason to punish the commander. Commanders there soely to TK are going to have a hard time once people catch on. It's not like the arty instantly hits - you've got a good 20 seconds or something to haul ass outta there. If you're not paying attention and run into a strike zone it's your fault.

[PunisherUK]

Re: Commander should be punished for TK bring it back?

But then saying that, you get the odd idiot that applies for commander just so he can rain artillery down on his own team because he knows his score is not affected.

[vbl]

Re: Commander should be punished for TK bring it back?

I'd rather see them change it so artillery kills don't count as deaths. That way it'll retain its usefullness at breaking up defenses, preventing lone soldier caps, and thinning enemies - but no one will suffer any personal stat or score hits from it. That should ease the anger.

[WarGimp]

Re: Commander should be punished for TK bring it back?

I was playing not long ago with a very good squad under a very crappy commander. After the 3rd time he'd called artillery down on our position while we were capping a flag, I told the SL that he'd better warn the commander that I'm gonna TK him as soon as I respawn.

He did, then I did.

I let the commander know that every time I get shelled by him, I'm gonna come back and stick my knife in his face.

The stupidity stopped.

[JarEme]

Re: Commander should be punished for TK bring it back?

I'd like to see artillery just removed entirely. I find it's either killing me while I'm trying to cap or delaying me from entering and capping a flag. Never anything useful.

[WarGimp]

Re: Commander should be punished for TK bring it back?

I'd like to see artillery just removed entirely. I find it's either killing me while I'm trying to cap or delaying me from entering and capping a flag. Never anything useful.

Wow! Like, none of us expected that comment! It's not like you state the same damned thing in every thread that uses the word "artillery" in it.


Tangent thought:
I'd like to see some variance in what can be done with artillery. The current shelling is all "fire for effect". Ie, all guns, 3 shots, saturate the area. Maybe be able to call for a tactical shot (one shot, very accurate) that reloads faster. Firing smoke rounds could be interesting. Maybe even use artillery to deploy mines... but that might suck.

[imported_The_Revrend]

Re: Commander should be punished for TK bring it back?

I think there should be different warning to the default "artilery your area" under the squad messages section of the command screen. I hear the default one so much I tend to switch off to it. If the commander actively use another voice command like "Get out of their soldier, Bombardment underway!" I think i'd pay attention to it - especially if i heard it twice.

Even then, I see no reason to punish the commander. Commanders there soely to TK are going to have a hard time once people catch on. It's not like the arty instantly hits - you've got a good 20 seconds or something to haul ass outta there. If you're not paying attention and run into a strike zone it's your fault.

"Artilery your area" just makes me double check the mini-map look for the flag and make sure it's not directed at me. If it is my area, bug out. I've got no problem with the way it works.

Rev

[BurnTheWeed]

Re: Commander should be punished for TK bring it back?

I suggested this in another thread, but I would like to see the commander lose points but not have it count as a tk. That way he doesn't get banned for a bad call, but will get punished (point wise).

[alwo]

Re: Commander should be punished for TK bring it back?

No way, the red artillery circle is there for a reason

[Slapidus]

Re: Commander should be punished for TK bring it back?

No.Because the big red flashing ring with the arty in the middle is proof to move and not get in the way,its not the commanders fault that morons run right into the arty for the hell of it