Why exploiting the BF2 squad system sucks

[Bubas]

Re: Why exploiting the BF2 squad system sucks

Team Play is creating a Squad with a medic to Heal, support to give ammo, engie to fix what is needed to fix, a sniper to spot the enemy, specops to destroy enemy assets, AT to help with the armour and Assault.
And when you attack a location be sure you have a coordinated effort or the attack will fail.

With this "tactic" of multiple walking spawn points, there is no need for medics and suport...if a tank comes along then suicide and spawn as an AT, if you need firepower the suicide yourself and spawn as support or Assault.
I play in a clan and I don´t like the tactic but it is the easiest way of bringing maximum firepower on a location...so everyone uses it.

As I read before the solution is if you die you can´t change squad.

[Terroser]

Re: Why exploiting the BF2 squad system sucks

Team Play is creating a Squad with a medic to Heal, support to give ammo, engie to fix what is needed to fix, a sniper to spot the enemy, specops to destroy enemy assets, AT to help with the armour and Assault.
And when you attack a location be sure you have a coordinated effort or the attack will fail.

With this "tactic" of multiple walking spawn points, there is no need for medics and suport...if a tank comes along then suicide and spawn as an AT, if you need firepower the suicide yourself and spawn as support or Assault.
I play in a clan and I don´t like the tactic but it is the easiest way of bringing maximum firepower on a location...so everyone uses it.

As I read before the solution is if you die you can´t change squad.

Brainless I think..
maby wrong but i think not.

Why you says, is tottaly flawd.

because.
we use the syteem with, medic's, support, anti-tank
only it give us a advangte because if are squadleader is death somebody can take over the leadership.

so what you are saying is tottaly not true.

and if you are in a clan, then your clan is using it not good if i read your opinion.

because the stupid thing you can ever do in a clan match is suicide for a kit :evil: (15 seconds is a long time and go to the place is an other 5 seconds)

in simple words:

make a blanced squad with anti-tank support and medic or other stuff.

and use the squad systeem to make the it diffecult to wipe you and your team or to push you team to the your limit by using this tacktick

[Leeus]

Re: Why exploiting the BF2 squad system sucks

I don't have a problem with it. I can imagine a good comander saying, "You! Go to support Alpha squad, they have no medic and are getting wasted! Get to it!!!!"

No problems, adjust.

[spitsfreeman]

Re: Why exploiting the BF2 squad system sucks

lol well i have no problem with people leaving then joining sqads nearer the action rather then having to spawn miles away, the ammount of times ive manage to help hold a flag (tv -Sharqi Peninsula) because of being able to switch squads to one that has a live squad leader in the same place

[Digital-Boy]

Re: Why exploiting the BF2 squad system sucks

only read the first post:

possible solution: No changing squads while dead.

That's a great idea.

I don't understand the people who say that "squad hopping" (as it's called) is teamplay. It's just a way for people to take advantage of squad leader spawns while still playing as a lone wolf. It's like anti-teamplay.

[Adonlude]

Re: Why exploiting the BF2 squad system sucks

Ya that is definately an exploit.

Simple fix: Allow only 1 squad during an 8v8 Clanwar, 2 max.

[Terroser]

Re: Why exploiting the BF2 squad system sucks

That's a great idea.

I don't understand the people who say that "squad hopping" (as it's called) is teamplay. It's just a way for people to take advantage of squad leader spawns while still playing as a lone wolf. It's like anti-teamplay.

You know what a great idea is.

to ban all whiners for live...

advangte what you cold also help, so what is the problem.

and you say no teamwork..
there is something wrong with your thinking.

1. I can walk 15 miles and help my team
or 2. iIcan spawn directly and help my team mates

so I think more option 2 want is teamply then.

And omg it's hard to be trying to be nice agianst your kind :evil:

[Terroser]

Re: Why exploiting the BF2 squad system sucks

Ya that is definately an exploit.

Simple fix: Allow only 1 squad during an 8v8 Clanwar, 2 max.

You are brainless rright.
becaus it's not a exploit.

Go to google and define the word exploit OmG

and why is it not an exploit, because everbody can use it NooB

Man I think i canne play some battlefield because all of those whines I get a freaking headick

[Althornin]

Re: Why exploiting the BF2 squad system sucks

flawd,tacktick,presuare

How can you expect anyone to take you seriously at all when you cannot spell the vast majority of words you use?
I can understand (and certainly make my fair share) making some mistakes.
But you demonstrate a basica inability to understand grammar, spelling, and the basics of the language.


It is not difficult to at least use a spell-checker.

As for your logic, it is as flawEd as your linguistics. Your posts read like a logical fallacy parade.

Bah. OP is right. An option is needed - able to be set by the server - to either have everyone be a mobile spawn point, or to limit this crap.
Right now, everylone is EFFECTIVELY a mobile spawn point, but you have to do a lot of pointless switching and changing of squads, cycling, etc.

If it is a server set option, you can have fun on your "everyone is a mobile base" server, and I can have fun on my "squad tactics really matter, squadleader matters, squad tactics matter" server.

[Pilioka]

Re: Why exploiting the BF2 squad system sucks

If it was an exploit it would of been changed by now. It's part of the game. Get used to it.

You can still use IG VOIP. I did it the other day. Some people may of spawned off me and left but who cares...More people to assault the flag.

[DOGGiE52]

Re: Why exploiting the BF2 squad system sucks

I don't know that I think... It's a very good tactic but as you say probably not meant to be there by the developers...

[pYura]

Re: Why exploiting the BF2 squad system sucks

yeah, I agree this tactics is just stuped.... once I was rushed by a 3man team all jumping antitank guys and when I killed one of them they respowned and kept baseraping.... thats and exploit...

[Bubas]

Re: Why exploiting the BF2 squad system sucks

because the stupid thing you can ever do in a clan match is suicide for a kit :evil: (15 seconds is a long time and go to the place is an other 5 seconds)

I think I didn´t make myself clear...if I am in another part of the map and an anti tank is needed in an hot spot we commit suicide to help destroy the Tank.
We don´t commit suicide in the middle of a battle.

And I still think that it is much more eficient to use only support and Assault classes when facing infantary...even if the other team has medics it can´t keep up with the amount of fire power that can be put on by a squad of only Assault/support/spawning mates. If that happens you will see that the medic will only get killed with the squad mate he is reviving.

[STISS]

Re: Why exploiting the BF2 squad system sucks

How can you expect anyone to take you seriously at all when you cannot spell the vast majority of words you use?
I can understand (and certainly make my fair share) making some mistakes.
But you demonstrate a basica inability to understand grammar, spelling, and the basics of the language.


It is not difficult to at least use a spell-checker.

:laugh: :laugh: I know, he makes me want to vomit.

I can't say I agree with the squad hopping, but I can't say I don't use it either

[WarGimp]

Re: Why exploiting the BF2 squad system sucks

The easiest "fix" for this is to disallow access to squad functions while dead. to leave/joing a squad, you'd have to spawn first. If you want to hop to another squad, you'd have to suicide and respawn. Chances are people won't do that since it smacks 'em with a -2 penalty and causes them to wait for respawn (and chances are, but the time they respawn, the SL they want to hop to will be either dead or out of position).

It's worth noting that that this would solve the issue of people smacking insert and making one man useless squads as a way to bypass autobalance.

To make it a good system, you should get your first squad function for free, tho. Either when just joining or at the begining of the round, you should be able to make/join a squad.

I'd like to see some disussion on this since it's something that Dice should be able to implement fairly easily.

Oh yeah... squad hopping and cycling technicly is an exploit simply because it's not how the system was intended to function. Doesn't mean it's a bad thing... or that I don't use it myself.

From an objective view point, I do think this hole should be sealed up.