Downright ****ed at these idiots....

[YelloPL]

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Here are a few of the things ****ing me off the MOST lately in this game...


1. Squad leader's that get theirself into the position where noone can spawn on them. Jumping in a full vehicle for a quick ride, or an AA to extinguish some ******* choppers for a few seconds is OK. But when your a Squad Leader.....get the FUKC out of the attack choppers. Get the FUKC out of Jets. STOP FUKCING CAMPING FOR PLANES/CHOPPERS and WASTING the SL spawn point. If you want to do that and still be in squad, RESIGN FROM LEADER!

2. Squad Leaders that do not assign tasks to keep the squad going as a group. They simply are squad leader and, more often than not, do noobish crap like shoot people who spawn on them cause they get "scared".

3. Commanders who do stupid stuff. Occasionally the commander doing some ground combat is OK. i.e. when the airfield on wake is falling and the chinese commander drops arty, then mops up the rest and gets the flag back, its a needed measure. NOT when they just jog around like idiots trying to attack the spawn island for USMC, swim to the ESSEX, play as spec ops and kamikaze armor.

4. Commanders who are jet whores. You're a commander, your not a pilot. GTFO and do your job.

I'll try to go back to the main topic. I fully agree with you on points 2-4, but have a different view on 1. Until some time ago I shared with your opinion here and thought a good SL should not drive tanks / use helis and jets.

However, once I got more into helis and tanks, I realised that being a SL makes you much more efficient - not only for yourself, but for the whole team. Example - if I am a SL and fly an assault heli, a good commander can give me orders that actually efficiently utilise my heli power - he sends me after tanks, APCs, other helis. It does not happen always, as some commanders insist on sending my heli to cap flags, but there are some that actually take into account the fact that I deliver a strong puch where it's needed. When I am in a tank I use the SL opportunities to call supplies and allow my gunner to spawn on me if he gets taken out.
Also, I try to avoid playing lone wolf (although I did that in the past, as my stats show). So when I want to use a heli I can either join a squad and follow orders, most of which does not use my assault capabilities, I can be a Lone Wolf and play for myself or I can be a SL and be able to communicate with the commander. Out of the 3 above I chose SL. I am probably an average heli pilot, but I have a feeling that I am far more efficient when I am a SL and the commander gives me orders that actually fit my heli's capabilities.

Of course, there is a major drawback of all this: SL in heli / tank cannot be a good spawn point, but at the same time I think that some of the opportunities that tank / heli drivers get as SL justifies the trade off.

Some day I'd want to play a vehicle heavy map, jump into a heli, join a squad and provide air cover for a column of tanks, APCs and Jeeps from my sqaud. Sadly, I never had that luck so far, but from time to time I keep trying :)

I re-read some of the topis in this thread: we all have differing agendas in this game: some play for stats, some for teamwork and some for their individual pleasure. It's hard to satisfy everyone here. What I don't like is that many people quickly turn to flaming if they do not agree with others. I have a different opinion that CaptainJordus for instance I am not likely to change it (and my playing style) no matter what he says, but at the same time I respect his views and opinions.

[Moke]

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as nobody is ever going to help me repair [faster than 3 crates] them

Hrmm... *Cough Cough*... (slowly rasing his hand)

[Moke]

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who drop crates on them when they should notice that Im on the job fixing them.

A quick nade fixes that.....

I just love having a commander who (when im SL) gives me an order to go repair something... promtly replying "You got it".. dropping everything.. getting in buggy and hurling thru enemy lines and blazing rockets, missiles, tank shells, bullets, spiderwebs, mudpuddles, stripjoints, 7/11's and so fourth....

ONLY to see a freaking crate dropping down just as I arrive

[Moke]

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in is sad to see N/A in best' engineers score. and it hapens often. on some maps it happens almost everytime.

To bad you never played with me then....

[Hodson]

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I play as a squad leader so I can have a green name. That's all. I've no interest in telling people what to do. Frankly, if you don't know what you should be doing, I don't really want you in my squad.

Im Sorry mate but that it down right dumb

[yeoldehomer]

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Being a squad leader so you can clock up your hours is ok IF your team has available places for squads. I know im not going to be one kit/position/vehicle for so many hours just so I can get a badge.

SL not giving orders is also acceptable. The main reason is because the commander is supposed to. The commander has a better idea of where your squad should be than your SL.

[big_sammy_b]

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thats true but i think its paramount that a squad leader STAYS ALIVE and spends his time on the outskirts of a skirmish so his squad members can spawn at him and continue that battle.

I think this tactic above all others is what gets the flags capped.

[Auto-ER-]

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Hrmm... *Cough Cough*... (slowly rasing his hand)

Yip, usually an engineer can get all three up and running before a second supply can be halfway refilled. The trick is, don't repair each all teh way first. Just get them all operational (couple turns of the wrench) then go back and fully repair.

I saw something amazing this morning on Karkand, MEC, assets blew, and with in five seconds, myself, and two other engineers and an AT were there fixing everything, cleared the area and retook two flags. Breathtaking.

Oh yea back on topic, squad leaders can do what they want as long as I can respawn on them, I know what needs to be done. Fortunately my clan uses TS, and we communicate without ingame console, so it can be disheartening to a random player that joins us, but I try my best to keep him informed. Only thing we ask if you join the squad, keep up, and play with us.

[Retribution.]

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i dont get involved in anything the commander does as i cant stand the commander role, well tell a lie i do blow his arty on occasion, as for the squad leader roles i just let my mate be squad leader and i'll be the rambo who charges flags, tis the way i've allways played battlefield and probably allways will be :P

[sidtherat]

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A quick nade fixes that.....

I just love having a commander who (when im SL) gives me an order to go repair something... promtly replying "You got it".. dropping everything.. getting in buggy and hurling thru enemy lines and blazing rockets, missiles, tank shells, bullets, spiderwebs, mudpuddles, stripjoints, 7/11's and so fourth....

ONLY to see a freaking crate dropping down just as I arrive

so, hypoteticaly speaking, you destroy my crate just to earn your repair point, while i as commander, and whole team has no uav? or worse - scan? if there is something i call stupid behaviour it is just that. i understand - you tried and rushed etc - it is all great, but for general situation it is most important to bring uav/scan support ASAP. by all means available. and you werent fast enough. [in most cases you wont be left empty handed as comm assets tend to blow en mase and there is probably another asset or two that needs repairing.]

btw. if commander wasnt revealed by enemy commander, he can in most cases simply defend his assets himself. 7 rounds from pancor can kill any invader busy placing c4 on your arty.

as for limit of squads. i rarely play on 40+ servers as they lag for me quite often, and on smaller servers it is not so rare to see only 2-3 teams in rooster.maybe i choose wrong servers, with so called crappy gameplay, but anyway. so i dont blame myself for exceeding the limit and causing any problems.

I know im not going to be one kit/position/vehicle for so many hours just so I can get a badge.

me also, but if im commanding, for most time im stationary, so why not sit in someting? it clocks hours quite seamlesly and i think cant be called a stat padding :)

Some day I'd want to play a vehicle heavy map, jump into a heli, join a squad and provide air cover for a column of tanks, APCs and Jeeps from my sqaud. Sadly, I never had that luck so far, but from time to time I keep trying

because anything that goes with 'column' and 'tanks' attracts 'plane' and 'bombs' :) even myself, a very bad pilot that crashes into any building of oportunity can take out a group of tanks in maximum second attempt.


a question off topic to all 'team players' - are you shouting and insulting commadners that 'spot' infantry? in most games when i spot more than 3 lone dots on the map going into our back i can read 'STFU' or 'f-word off' etc [and inevitable kick vote]. where is that team gameplay and sophisticated tactical thinking when time between me spotting third infantry and first insult is shorter than .1 sec? at start i tried to persuade them, now i ignore them completly. if there is a lone dot capturing backflag and uav is already online and arty is reloading what should i do? drop a supply crate on him? [sometimes i try :/]

[Sir. Shpox]

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Supply crates should always be avoided to repair assets at all costs.
We all know the engineer class is down grading. I say let repairing assets 2 points. Nough said.

[Kattspya]

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“There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.”

– Benjamin Disraeli, Prime Minister of England (1868, 1874-1880)

Yeah, and that means that all statistics are useless?

[imported_cybercrow]

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You are retarded.

I believe the purpose of the Medals, Ribbons, etc that require squad work were meant to get people to do TEAMwork. or SQUADwork. Not be a prick.

You need 100h being a SL? Fine, but work the fukcing job, dont be a *****. Squads are muhc more effective than lonewolfs which means your points will only go UP!

Fine, go sit in AA/50 cals and get your ribbons/badges, but dont do it as a SL when your doing nothing. Contribute to the game, idiot.

cricky dude you have got serious anger prob's instead of shoutin ur mouth off an being a childish little infant just stf an play ur own game ffs,
theres so many peps running around playing the game in lone wolf YEAH SO WHAT!
theyve paid for the game there pc an there internet so wtf has it got to do with u how they play there game?
ur prob one of them players that put cammo an a chest rigg on just to play the game lmao.
an the name calling who fcuk do ya think ya are?
get a grip on life kiddy instead of sitting on ya pc bored out of ya tree,
if ya that bored go play bf2 or sf or even better go throw ya self out of ya bed room window just for a laugh.
the prob with most of these threads just lately is that a lot of peps are moaning about other peps SO WHAT GET ON WITH IT OR DONT PLAY IT!
an as workin as a squad to get medals or ribbons now u are talkin utter bullox do u think i u get a medal every one in ur squad is getting one just because u've got one?NO I DONT THINK SO.
every now an then i play as lone wolf.
eeerrrrrrr how many snipers do u c workin as a squad in the army eeeerrrr NOT MANY,
before even say all the time no they dont as ive been in the forces,
dude get a grip on life an grow up.
you have got such a big bad chip on your shoulder

[DavidG64]

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This game is hella more fun when good teamwork is happening. Your actions are totally counter to that concept.

Just to play devils advocate (since I actually agree with you)... This is just your opinion and based on what I see in game it is a minority opinion. Which really does not bother me too much. I'm really not sure why so many people get so bothered about how other guys play. There are lots of servers out there.

[wbcninjaofmist]

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cricky dude you have got serious anger prob's instead of shoutin ur mouth off an being a childish little infant just stf an play ur own game ffs,
theres so many peps running around playing the game in lone wolf YEAH SO WHAT!
theyve paid for the game there pc an there internet so wtf has it got to do with u how they play there game?
ur prob one of them players that put cammo an a chest rigg on just to play the game lmao.
an the name calling who fcuk do ya think ya are?
get a grip on life kiddy instead of sitting on ya pc bored out of ya tree,
if ya that bored go play bf2 or sf or even better go throw ya self out of ya bed room window just for a laugh.
the prob with most of these threads just lately is that a lot of peps are moaning about other peps SO WHAT GET ON WITH IT OR DONT PLAY IT!
an as workin as a squad to get medals or ribbons now u are talkin utter bullox do u think i u get a medal every one in ur squad is getting one just because u've got one?NO I DONT THINK SO.
every now an then i play as lone wolf.
eeerrrrrrr how many snipers do u c workin as a squad in the army eeeerrrr NOT MANY,
before even say all the time no they dont as ive been in the forces,
dude get a grip on life an grow up.
you have got such a big bad chip on your shoulder

Yeah man, thats my point i made on page 2 of this thread, too many losers in these forums complain about how OTHER people play the game. Wrather silly