If you dare, the NOOB tube reveal

[Antlion(Rus)]

Re: If you dare, the NOOB tube reveal

Sorry but you are a noob, go play some clanmatches. C4 and nadetube dominate and that's a fact. Any serious clanplayer can confirm that.

True... :laugh: My lovely prefix is "No00oB". You know, i dont know why do u think that c4 is a powerful weapon. Of coz it is a powerful thing against tanks, and maybe against infantry at karkand. But, you know, specops guys, who doesnt play in heli or tank,practically never earn gold, silver and bronze medals. It is hard to take out more than 10 ppl using c4 in a round. AK101 is much more deadly than gp30. Some skilled player (medic) with AK is like a tornado. And he can do more than same skilled player with GP30 or m203. Anyway, it depends on player, holding these weapons. Maybe there is no sense in this dispute.
GL reload time is very long, it takes about 2-3 sec to switch to rifle, there is only 5 (or 6?) nades. So all this factors redress the balance
PS
I've just started playing assault. So here is my stats
Assault h11:m51:s06 kills 650 deaths 392
Grenade Launcher Attachment 03:42:30 kills 217 deaths 142

[big_sammy_b]

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i use the 'nob tube' all the time since SF came out. But i NEVER use it in the way thats basically cheating (close up along with bunny hopping) i calways use it at range and at range its a difficult thing too master but when you do its fantastic.

The Trick is too line up the sight so the bottom of it is on the target you want too hit. If the target is within the scopes range it will hit it every time.

It gets tricky when you try too hit a target farther away than the scopes range, the nade can go as far as you like pretty much so to shoot distant target you have too kind of guess how much above the target you aim. :)

[Unf0cused]

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I still call it the noob tube, I'm usually ****ed when I get killed by it (more than from any other weapon; and I'm not always ****ed when I die :P), but I understand it's a part of the game and people can use it. It's similar to people whining about the AWM in CS.

It would be less frustrating however if we could always hear the nade launching before it hits us and the explosion. Sometimes I'm just running and suddenly, without any sound, I get killed, check the k/d log - yadayada[GP30]me. THAT is damn annoying.

EDIT:
wtf at the ****? Since when is "p issed" considered a bad word?

[CougarSeven]

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I agree, I mainly play assault, and yes I am new to BF2 not quite as new as my stats but I've only recently upgraded to 1.12.

I don't think the M203GL is unbalanced and I don't think it is "over used." I only really use the grenade launcher when trying to hit someone round a corner or I feel cheeky at taking a long range pot shot at helicopters and stray infrantry.

Yes you are guaranteed to get some people that will abuse it, but don't you get that with alot of other wepons in alot of other games? And isn't the Assault soldier supposed to be cream that floats on top of the bottle of **** in combat anyway?

I also agreee with you that in close quaters its not "realistic" but there are plenty of things in this game that are unrealistic such as helicopters not blowing up when hit with a tank shell, or the fact that someone can keep running although hit with 3 rounds from a sniper? I could reel off more, in other words, BF2 was not designed to be a highly realistic game. Plus the M203GL has only 5 rounds, whereas in real-life I do believe you carry a hell of alot more. You still want to make it realistic?

I personally find the GL too slow in close quaters, yes slow, it's much easier to use the rifle to kick ass in close combat, at least thats my view on the whole thing. Its a player attitude problem we are dealing with this is not an inbalance.

Anyway no need to flame this, constructive critisism is always welcome though. :)

[big_sammy_b]

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what the 203/GP30 is definatley miissing as UnF0cused said is the tell tale sound it makes.

With a 203 its a kinda 'plunk' type sound and with the GP30 its kind of a 'plink' type sound.

[c0n[s]tIx]

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personaly i luv using the GL, but i never noobtube, i jusy use it on medium 2 long ranges... its so much fun... aim, fire, boboing and hit... gotta love it

[^Scott^]

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I absolutely hate the grenade launcher and know how cheap it feels to be killed by it so I try to avoid it as much as possible hence the low time and kills with it.
Time Kills Deaths
Grenade Launcher Attachment - 01:21:01 65 93
Assault Rifles - 42:58:06 2,416 1,919

It doesn't bug me if people use it long range but you get these people that use it all the time at close range that **** me off. Most of these people shoot it straight into the ground killing me and risking half or more of their health to get the kill.

[TGL|Badlizzard]

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The Grenade launcher is like the VSS was to Desert Combat. 2 Rounds from a VSS was enough to kill. GL is a knee jerk reaction, a split second for you to see each other and you have clicked your mouse. While your opponent is going prone to get a shot on you, GL deals instant death.

Under most circumstances it is fired in those conditions. Very rarely do I get hit by a GL from long range. It is always someone using poor infantry tactics, because he knows he has a one shot kill weapon in his hand.

All strategy for flanking and using squad work are thrown out the window, because it means nothing, the only thing that matters is which noob tube saw who first.

Yes I know, it's in the game so use it. And although that is a very thought provoking and relevant argument. There has to be a little bit of pride, somewhere deep down inside, that says I am not out to just create an unrealistic playing experience, I want to immerse myself in the action. Yes yes, I know it's a game, but is the game to just kill without a battle? or do you prefer to battle a bit?

If there was a nuke available to each team to use, and you could use it to kill all players at once, would that be fun for you because you got lots of kills? Is it only about getting kills?

[CougarSeven]

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Yes I know, it's in the game so use it. And although that is a very thought provoking and relevant argument. There has to be a little bit of pride, somewhere deep down inside, that says I am not out to just create an unrealistic playing experience, I want to immerse myself in the action. Yes yes, I know it's a game, but is the game to just kill without a battle? or do you prefer to battle a bit?

If there was a nuke available to each team to use, and you could use it to kill all players at once, would that be fun for you because you got lots of kills? Is it only about getting kills?

Why do you seem to think using the GL is all about kills? Certainly some people just like to frag and don't care about teamwork (but thats the CS player attitude) theres not much you can do about it. Its a tactical wepon that is abused at close range, I love a big battle as much as the next BF2 enthusiast but just because someone shoots me point blank with a GL I don't go whine about how "unbalanced" the wepon is or type abuse at them.

I don't go on the forums and go n00b helicopters don't die when hit with a tank shell, when clearly they'd of been ripped in half. Anyway the AT Missle Launcher is 1 shot kill when it hits someone anywhere, do you think its realistic launching anti-tank missles at troops? Doesnt that create an unrealistic battlefield enviroment? I see ATs doing this all the time, more infact then "n00b t00bs"

I've got pride and I don't ever use the GL at close combat unless firing round a corner or if I'm caught unaware and its in my hand already in which case I'd rather it be you then me

[^Scott^]

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The anti-tank missles have a very short "spray area" I guess you could say. You have to hit that person right on the dot to kill them. GL you can be within a good radius to get insta killed by it.

[Frogatron]

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assault 50h - 441 kills - yikes i'm garbage
noobatron - 4.3h - 113 kills

[TGL|Badlizzard]

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I've got pride and I don't ever use the GL at close combat unless firing round a corner or if I'm caught unaware and its in my hand already in which case I'd rather it be you then me

I guess you are the exception to the rule when it comes to the GL.

I am not suggesting that it be removed from the game, I don't use it for CQB because I feel dirty and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. There is nothing I like better than meeting up face to face with someone and we open up MG's at each other, juking and jiving, running out of bullets, drawing our pistols and either finishing him off or getting killed. Either way I don't care.

I feel cheated when I get ready for the fight, and one click and it's over. Why ? because he is in it for the kills, not the fight, he doesn't want to fight. He wants you dead with one click. I am just asking, is that fun? Is that why they play the game?

[CougarSeven]

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It's you have to hit them dead on but its far easier to aim with the AT then the GL atleast it travels straight rather then dropping. Especially at long range it is rather difficult to aim to GL not the AT though.

I mean sniping with a missle launcher really...realistic. But I do ultimately agree with you the GL is abused at point blank range. I just don't think its a wepon issue, its the players.

Anyway, on the brighter side my MX518 came today can't wait to get home and give it a spin, bye bye Intelli :laugh:

[CougarSeven]

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He wants you dead with one click. I am just asking, is that fun? Is that why they play the game?

Yes unfortunately thats how he gets his kicks :laugh: Just laugh at their pathetic(ness)

[HowieMandel]

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when lamers stop jumping around like idiots ......both iin attitude and appearence......then, i'll stop using the nade launcher.
Period.

NOthing says, FU, like watching some dolphin, jumping, idiot looking moron, only to see him fall into a lump after a nade hits "SOMEWHERE" near him.
Noob Tubes arnt bad. They are simply an answer to DICE's/EA's idiotic jumping and proneing, quake/cs type play. And it works.
I will say this, i NEVER thought i would use the nade launcher as my PRIMARY and ONLY type gun to use. NEVER. After getting lamed by expert dolphin'ating, going prone.....run dodge, and jump up and down forever type players............. its all i use now.