F2000 Overrated?

[pYura]

Re: F2000 Overrated?

Its a good weapon at all ranges and that makes it better than any of the assault weaponz.

[Peter-SAS]

Re: F2000 Overrated?

Its the better of the assualt weapons purely because of its balance between power, accuracy and range. And also a nade launcher. Why they made it an SAS weapon, I don't know. Its Belgian, and Its not in commision with any army at the moment. Who Knows.

[Sir. Shpox]

Re: F2000 Overrated?

I found it not a bad weapon. Personally I hate the G3. I ran out of ammo too quick kill 1 bunny hopper per round. Its a strong weapon and it slaughter though anything, you can feel it.

About the F2000. Looks like something out of "The planet of the apes". Not a bad gun. I do believe how you say its overated. Its not that good but it is good. The scope probably aids a lot, specially on single shot. I'd say way better than G3 anyday.

[PBAsydney]

Re: F2000 Overrated?

I don't get how people call the M16 accurate, it has a horrible ironsight, its 3 times as thick as the AK's ironsights.

I like the F2000, i find it highly accurate, but it lacks power.

[Eddy01741]

Re: F2000 Overrated?

I picked one of these contraptions up today (the F2000) when some friends talked me into digging my BF2 CD out, and I have to say given the hype the thing receives here, it definately didn't live up to it in battle. So, here's some numbers for you guys to look at. You can decide what to make of it, but the F2000 is by no means some ultra-powerful weapon. (as shown below, it doesn't sweep the stats in favor of itself)

Red means worst in it's class, blue means best. If it's black, there's either too many like it or they're all the same, or it's in between. I've included the 5 assault rifles and the 4 grenade launchers, each with some code to compare. If you want to add more things to it, feel free as it will add to the information. :)

Rifles:
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M16
ObjectTemplate.ammo.reloadTime 4.375
[COLOR="Blue"]ObjectTemplate.deviation.setFireDev 2 0.2 0.05[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Blue"]ObjectTemplate.deviation.minDev 0.3[/COLOR]
ObjectTemplate.deviation.setTurnDev 0 0 0 0
[COLOR="Blue"]ObjectTemplate.deviation.setSpeedDev 1.2 0.2 0.2 0.1[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Blue"]ObjectTemplate.deviation.setMiscDev 3.2 1.5 0.05[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Red"]ObjectTemplate.deviation.devModStand 1.5[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Red"]ObjectTemplate.deviation.devModCrouch 1.3[/COLOR]
ObjectTemplate.deviation.devModZoom 0.8
ObjectTemplate.zoom.addZoomFactor 0
ObjectTemplate.zoom.addZoomFactor 0.6
[COLOR="Red"]ObjectTemplate.damage 30[/COLOR]

AK101
[COLOR="Red"]ObjectTemplate.ammo.reloadTime 4.958[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Blue"]ObjectTemplate.deviation.setFireDev 2 0.2 0.05[/COLOR]
ObjectTemplate.deviation.minDev 0.45
ObjectTemplate.deviation.setTurnDev 0 0 0 0
ObjectTemplate.deviation.setSpeedDev 1.2 0.25 0.25 0.1
[COLOR="Blue"]ObjectTemplate.deviation.setMiscDev 3.2 1.5 0.05[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Blue"]ObjectTemplate.deviation.devModStand 1.3[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Blue"]ObjectTemplate.deviation.devModCrouch 1.2[/COLOR]
ObjectTemplate.deviation.devModZoom 0.8
ObjectTemplate.zoom.addZoomFactor 0
ObjectTemplate.zoom.addZoomFactor 0.6
ObjectTemplate.damage 37

AK47
[COLOR="Blue"]ObjectTemplate.ammo.reloadTime 4[/COLOR]
ObjectTemplate.deviation.setFireDev 2.3 0.2 0.05
ObjectTemplate.deviation.minDev 0.45
ObjectTemplate.deviation.setTurnDev 0 0 0 0
[COLOR="Blue"]ObjectTemplate.deviation.setSpeedDev 1.2 0.2 0.2 0.1[/COLOR]
ObjectTemplate.deviation.setMiscDev 3.2 2 0.05
[COLOR="Blue"]ObjectTemplate.deviation.devModStand 1.3[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Blue"]ObjectTemplate.deviation.devModCrouch 1.2[/COLOR]
ObjectTemplate.deviation.devModZoom 0.8
ObjectTemplate.zoom.addZoomFactor 0
ObjectTemplate.zoom.addZoomFactor 0.6
ObjectTemplate.damage 38

G3A3
ObjectTemplate.ammo.reloadTime 4.375
[COLOR="Red"]ObjectTemplate.deviation.setFireDev 2.5 0.2 0.05 **[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Red"]ObjectTemplate.deviation.minDev 0.5[/COLOR]
ObjectTemplate.deviation.setTurnDev 0 0 0 0
[COLOR="Red"]ObjectTemplate.deviation.setSpeedDev 1.2 0.5 0.5 0.1[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Red"]ObjectTemplate.deviation.setMiscDev 3.2 2.5 0.05[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Blue"]ObjectTemplate.deviation.devModStand 1.3[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Blue"]ObjectTemplate.deviation.devModCrouch 1.2[/COLOR]
ObjectTemplate.deviation.devModZoom 0.8
ObjectTemplate.zoom.addZoomFactor 0
ObjectTemplate.zoom.addZoomFactor 0.6
[COLOR="Blue"]ObjectTemplate.damage 40[/COLOR]

F2000
ObjectTemplate.ammo.reloadTime 4.7
[COLOR="Red"]ObjectTemplate.deviation.setFireDev 2.5 0.22 0.1  **[/COLOR]
ObjectTemplate.deviation.minDev 0.43
ObjectTemplate.deviation.setTurnDev 0 0 0 0
ObjectTemplate.deviation.setSpeedDev 1.2 0.25 0.25 0.1
[COLOR="Blue"]ObjectTemplate.deviation.setMiscDev 3.2 1.5 0.05[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Blue"]ObjectTemplate.deviation.devModStand 1.3[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Blue"]ObjectTemplate.deviation.devModCrouch 1.2[/COLOR]
ObjectTemplate.deviation.devModZoom 0.8
ObjectTemplate.zoom.addZoomFactor 0
[COLOR="Blue"]ObjectTemplate.zoom.addZoomFactor 0.7[/COLOR]
ObjectTemplate.damage 34

Grenade Launchers:
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M203
[COLOR="Red"]ObjectTemplate.ammo.reloadTime 3.792[/COLOR]
ObjectTemplate.detonation.explosionMaterial 69
ObjectTemplate.detonation.explosionRadius 5
ObjectTemplate.detonation.explosionForce 7
ObjectTemplate.detonation.explosionDamage 150
ObjectTemplate.damage 125

GP30
[COLOR="Blue"]ObjectTemplate.ammo.reloadTime 3.708[/COLOR]
ObjectTemplate.detonation.explosionMaterial 69
ObjectTemplate.detonation.explosionRadius 5
ObjectTemplate.detonation.explosionForce 7
ObjectTemplate.detonation.explosionDamage 150
ObjectTemplate.damage 125

GP25
[COLOR="Blue"]ObjectTemplate.ammo.reloadTime 3.708[/COLOR]
ObjectTemplate.detonation.explosionMaterial 69
ObjectTemplate.detonation.explosionRadius 5
ObjectTemplate.detonation.explosionForce 7
ObjectTemplate.detonation.explosionDamage 150
ObjectTemplate.damage 125

F2000GL
[COLOR="Red"]ObjectTemplate.ammo.reloadTime 3.792[/COLOR]
ObjectTemplate.detonation.explosionMaterial 69
ObjectTemplate.detonation.explosionRadius 5
ObjectTemplate.detonation.explosionForce 7
ObjectTemplate.detonation.explosionDamage 150
ObjectTemplate.damage 125

**Notice the close numbers on the last two there, the .2 and .22, and .05 and .1, I didn't want to bias it either way, but the 2.5 earned both of those a worse fire deviation than the other rifles so I based them roughly even.

OMG, i've been looking for those files forever. How did you get into the INIs, i wanna find the stats on some of the new SF weapons.

[Super Six Three]

Re: F2000 Overrated?

the F2000 looks like from Splinter Cell

[rombaft]

Re: F2000 Overrated?

The F2000 is an uber weapon.

it has enough power to take someone down with one headshot
3 shots of it and enemy is down
it's prety acurate
and it has a good scope
this in combination with a 30 bulet clip

seems to me it's a freakin good weapon

[Krpano]

Re: F2000 Overrated?

I dont like the F2000, i have it unlocked and i dont use it...i prefer the G36E in single shot mode... :-)
I feel so lame when i go GL.

[alkajazz]

Re: F2000 Overrated?

G3 for life

f2000s are for sam fishers

[Jesse]

Re: F2000 Overrated?

OMG, i've been looking for those files forever. How did you get into the INIs, i wanna find the stats on some of the new SF weapons.

In the Battlefield 2 directory under mods/bf2, you'll find an objects_server.zip file. In here, you will find about anything of the weapon or vehicle configurations (and more). The .tweak files generally hold the numbers. .cons are more like a template, so to speak, or give the game a general idea where something goes, and it'll be further defined in the .tweak

it has enough power to take someone down with one headshot

Um...doesn't ANY assault fire have the power to take someone down with one shot to the head?

I'm starting to think the F2000 hype is a psychological element, and while the numbers vary from rifle to rifle in sort of a personal preference sort of way, the rifle itself gives people confidence because they think it's better, and thus do better themselves. A completely possible theory, and could be what's happening. Whatever helps in the battlefield works I guess. :p

[Digital-Boy]

Re: F2000 Overrated?

Um...doesn't ANY assault fire have the power to take someone down with one shot to the head?

You'd think so, but the L85A1, M16A2, and G36E don't do enough damage to do 100 damage with a headshot.

I don't get how people call the M16 accurate, it has a horrible ironsight, its 3 times as thick as the AK's ironsights.

Blastphemy! The M16A2 is the most accurate assault rifle (aside from the G36E). I dislike the ironsights too, but they're not that bad.

[Eddy01741]

Re: F2000 Overrated?

You'd think so, but the L85A1, M16A2, and G36E don't do enough damage to do 100 damage with a headshot. Blastphemy! The M16A2 is the most accurate assault rifle (aside from the G36E). I dislike the ironsights too, but they're not that bad.

yep, this guy is right, headshots are triple damage, the L85 and G36E do 32 damage (96 hdshot), M16 does 30 (90 dmg hdshot). Anyways, yes, the M16A2 is way more accurate than any other assault rifle asside from the G36E. And thanks Jesse, and i agree, the f2000 is a psychological thing, it makes people THINK they are better, which makes them play better at times. It's just like when u have the G36C, or something like that, it makes u feel better, and u play better.

[TheAquaticApe]

Re: F2000 Overrated?

The F2000 is a good gun. Alot of people have said balance, and that is true. Thanks to the nifty scope your just that much more accurate with your shots. But, you can be just as deadly with the AK101, M16A1, AK47, or G3. I tried the F2000 and even have it unlocked, it's not for me. I prefer the AK101 or G3, the AK101 can be down right sick on a good day. And althought the G3 runs out of ammo faster how often do you live to really use up ALL your ammo anyways? I've come in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, playing assault with the G3. Again, F2000 good gun, but its really preference. Overatted? Yes, very much so.

[imported_ColonelPanic]

Re: F2000 Overrated?

I like it lots. It has quite a kick, though, so it's a little harder to keep steady on the target after shooting. The sight really makes a big difference for me. I hate those iron sights.

[SQUiB]

Re: F2000 Overrated?

If you like firing with single shots and don't like iron sights it's the weapon for you. If you like firing in 2 & 3 shot bursts it isn't so good.