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  • Synergy

    #61
    Re: !!~computer Reboot~!!

    Some things to try...

    If you think it might be RAM, use relaxed timings. I.e 3-4-4-8. Set the CAS latency to 3 especially, this is the most likely setting to make your computer unstable. Also it gives very little (probably 1 fps) difference in performance on ATHLON64 machines (older PCs saw much more of a performance increase from tight timings).
    The one setting that will affect your performance is the 1T 2T command rate thingy. This can affect performance 5-10%, so what im saying is that 3 4 4 8 with 1T is much better than 2 2 2 5 at 2T.
    Test your ram using Memtest x86 + (search google.).
    Bear in mind that BF2 is sensitive to ANY overclocking, so just run at stock speeds, ESPECIALLY your video card (including NVIDIA's auto-overclocking, as its really unreliable anyways).
    If none of this helps, start trying to eliminate causes to the problem, disable devices you do not use in your BIOS (i.e onboard sound, firewire, serial ports), this wont harm your system. Alternatively if you do have onboard sound and use an add-in card, try using the other.
    Try using PCI Latency tool (google.), can help performance and stability for some people.
    Try and use the latest video and sound drivers. (audigy/x-fi users try the modded youp-pax fi, google it, for Nvidia cards i recommend drivers from www.tweaksrus.com)
    Disable any services that you dont need. (services.msc)
    Run msconfig and disable and startup items you dont need.
    Especially disable any memory / cache tools or anything that interferes with your sound / video whilst playing a game.
    Especially dont run MSN Messenger, it can sometimes alt-tab the game.
    Try changing the cache amount for your sound card in BF2 - theres a line at the bottom of sound.con in battlefield2/mods/<bf2 or xpack>/settings/sound.con - change this from 90 to something higher. i.e 180.
    Try and ensure you have upwards of 700mb AVAILABLE physical memory when you run BF2.
    Ensure you have ample page file space available.
    With AGP - modify your driving value in your BIOS, also try increasing your aperture size.
    Pray. :)

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    • cleverqbin

      #62
      Re: !!~computer Reboot~!!

      Thanks for your input. That's pretty much all the tings I did.

      I also disabled the onboard lan controller and 1392 controller since I wasn't using them. I increased my paging file to 4x my ram amount. Raised my latency to 2.5 (left all my other timings the same) and decreased voltage to 2.60 from 2.70. Now it runs great and it hasn't crashed at all. I didn't want to raise my timings so much because it would be a waste of all the money I paid for this corsair ram ($200) if I had to put it at the timing of my original ram just because one game demanded so much.

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      • Synergy

        #63
        Re: !!~computer Reboot~!!

        Must have been RAM overheating then, if lowering the voltage fixes it. Some RAM (Crucial/Mushkin) runs at quite low volts and doesn't like too much juice.

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        • cleverqbin

          #64
          Re: !!~computer Reboot~!!

          Well it finally crashed again. On the map I had the worst problem with (Special Forces Map SURGE), it crashed after about 20 min. It's the only crash I've had in a while though and it seems to be limited to that map because I played BF2 regular with no problems. My timings are at 2.5-2-2-5 and my voltage is at 2.60....should I try raising the timings or lowering the voltage? I ram memtest86 for over an hour and it didn't find any errors in the memory. I think it definitely has to do with the stress level BF2 puts on the ram.

          COD 2 isn't much better either. It performs terrible, but F.E.A.R runs beautifully.

          Could lowering the voltage also have resolved the problem if it was actually a PSU prob? Cause I know my PSU is probably crap. It was cheap and it's only 350W...I ordered a 500W Modular power supply with my new Koolance case but that won't be in for at least another week.

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          • Synergy

            #65
            Re: !!~computer Reboot~!!

            What speed (Mhz) is the ram running at? Slow it down to its standard speed, dont lower the voltage any more - its fine and it wont be the cause. A faulty/unreliable PSU could be the problem, it could also not be your RAM. Increase your VCORE by 0.100 (i.e 1.550 to 1.650) and see if that helps. As another long shot try putting your memory in a different slot on your mobo (if this is possible).
            COD 2 performs terribly in DX9 mode anyway, but i believe there are various fixes around for that (disable soft shadows for one).

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            • cleverqbin

              #66
              Re: !!~computer Reboot~!!

              Thanks Synergy for your input.

              The ram is running at it's standard speed (400 mhz) but I was having all types of other problems as well. The ram I purchased is a matched pair of Corsair Twinx 512mb XMS DDR 3200XL ram. It's supposed to be really high end and it has timings at 2-2-2-5. Well needless to say I couldn't get it to properly run at those timings so I had them running at 2.5-2-2-5, but then the computer would boot up and winlogon.exe would have a fatal error accessing or writing to memory and the pc would reboot when I hit ok to close it. I couldn't figure out what was causing the error so i decided to raise the timings to 3-4-4-8 and it boot up with no problem. What does this mean? Is it the ram or something else (perhaps the mobo?)? Why did I pay $200 for ram I can only run at 3-4-4-8? I'm getting really tired of this...and I'm pretty sure this all ties into my BF2 problems as well...will running it at these timings really affect performance?

              Thanks

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              • mafia_boy

                #67
                Re: !!~computer Reboot~!!

                1st, need to know your specs?? try running dxdiag, ie, start/ run/ type dxdiag, make sure you have the newest version?? make sure you have a spyware/malware cleaner and virus checker, run the programmes frequently, defrag your hd regularly, have you got sp2??

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                • cleverqbin

                  #68
                  Re: !!~computer Reboot~!!

                  I'm running DirectX 9.0c. I have no spyware, no malware, no viruses, and I've defragged about 15 times. Yes I have SP2.

                  Here are my specs:

                  P4 2.6Ghz HT Enabled
                  Abit IS-7 Mobo 800Mhz FSB
                  2 x Corsair XMS DDR400 512mb (2-2-2-5) Dual Channel Enabled
                  ATI 9800Pro 128mb AGP 8x
                  Turtle Beach Santa Cruz 5.1 Audio
                  2x80 Gb Western Digital IDE HD's
                  NEC 16x DVD-RW DL Drive
                  48x CD-RW Drive
                  350W Macron PSU (Probably garbage)
                  OCZ Water Cooling system with Motherboard and CPU coolers.
                  *Windows XP Professional (SP2 and completely updated)
                  *DirectX 9.0c
                  *Dzer0point ATI Catalyst Drivers based on 5.11
                  *Everything else is completely updated as well.
                  *Have run Adaware SE Pro and Spybot SD about 30 times.
                  *Scanned my entire computer with Etrust Antivirus about 6 times.
                  *Cleaned out my registry with Registry Mechanic.
                  *Defragged 15 times.
                  *Ran Memtest86 3.2 for 87 passes and found no errors.

                  I'm going to be upgrading my case and PSU to the Koolance PC-426+ dual radiator integrated water cooling case with a 500W modular PSU in a week but I want to make sure it's not anything else beforehand.

                  Previously I was running the system with 1 stick of 512mb Geil Ultra PC3500 Ram and the problem I was having was that BF2 would crash like it does now but windows would not boot up and I would have to reinstall windows if I ever shut down my PC. It would get to the XP loading screen then look like it was going into windows but hang and eventually reboot. So it's definitely not something that's particular to this ram I have now.

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                  • IntensivCareBear

                    #69
                    Re: !!~computer Reboot~!!

                    i dunno, to me messing aroudn with all this system stuff just makes the game buggier and crash all the time.

                    it did that kind of stuff for me, so i lowered one setting and it ran perfectly fine.

                    is it worth having it crash and be laggy all the time just so you can play it on high rather than medium-high?

                    certainly not to me.

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                    • David Gilmour

                      #70
                      Re: !!~computer Reboot~!!

                      Ok, I know there's TONS of stuff containing solutions, but this solution has fixed my problem. Today it just happend, i would be in the middle of whoring a jet, and i would fly around and turn into killing someone.. and my screen will just go black, and it will shut off my pc.. Now I'm not very smart with computers, but I Ctrl Alt Del'd and I cancled something that was like "MONITOR" perhaps like DPMONITOR... anything simular to that, with monitor in it.. and I opened up BF2 and it worked fine! from about 1am - 4:10am... I also end processed a bunch of things that were really high in mem usage...(= if this is right, you WILL have to do it everytime you play bf2!)

                      I'm not sure if this is your problem... but you can try it.. if you deleted the wrong thing the worst that can really happen... will restart your computer.. so i wouldnt worry.. Might cut off your sound, and when you play a song it will say wrong divice... or windows might freeze... but it wont delete anything permanitly, just restart your pc..

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                      • mafia_boy

                        #71
                        Re: !!~computer Reboot~!!

                        ideal, havnt done that myself but yea it could be that, some conflict perhaps, bf2 is a buggy game as you know, have you tried uninstall reinstalling game???????

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                        • DrJambo
                          Member
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 349

                          #72
                          Re: !!~computer Reboot~!!

                          One question guys - how do you raise the timings of your RAM?

                          I have 2 sticks running at 3-4-4-8 and one running at 2.5-3-3-8 and I'd like to make them all the same.

                          Cheers

                          DrJ

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                          • Synergy

                            #73
                            Re: !!~computer Reboot~!!

                            Umm, i'm pretty sure you cant run sticks at different speeds. You may find they are rated to run at different speeds, but I believe that all sticks will run at the speed of the slowest stick.
                            This is still not good though, mismatching memory brands/types/speeds is never a good idea.

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