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  • artnez.com

    #1

    So, what takes "skill"?

    I've been hearing alot of this "skill" talk going around. So I ask, which weapons in the game take "skill" and which weapons in the game do not?

    And also, what exactly is "skill".. is it reaction time? Anticipation? Mouse-hand-eye coordination?

    And lastly, is winning the game by using whatever means possible (within the boundries of the game itself.. so cheating/exploiting doesnt count) considered a skill in and of itself? Or do people have to adhear to a set of rules of some sort?

    Thanks.

    Edit: One other thing.. why is it that people blame a player for using a certain weapon when it is available for them to use? Isn't this the developer's fault?

    Edit2: The personal opinionated conclusion, from what I've read here is that nothing in a video takes true skill to do. "Skill" is yet another cop-out used by people who do not like the way this game was made and blame the first person they possibly can -- the fellow gamer.
  • glasseye

    #2
    Re: So, what takes "skill"?

    Originally posted by artnez.com
    And also, what exactly is "skill".. is it reaction time? Anticipation? Mouse-hand-eye coordination?
    all of the above.

    Originally posted by artnez.com
    And lastly, is winning the game by using whatever means possible (within the boundries of the game itself.. so cheating/exploiting doesnt count) considered a skill in and of itself? Or do people have to adhear to a set of rules of some sort?
    no thats not skill.

    Originally posted by artnez.com
    Edit: One other thing.. why is it that people blame a player for using a certain weapon when it is available for them to use? Isn't this the developer's fault?
    because its lame. taking advantage of unbalanced parts of the game isnt skill.

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    • WolfAlmighty
      Artillery Magnet
      • Jan 2007
      • 2113

      #3
      Re: So, what takes "skill"?

      A good rule of thumb:

      If you use something to kill someone else, it's skill
      If someone uses something to kill you, it's cheap

      Learn this mantra, and you'll go far in the BF2 community.

      ~Wolfgang

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      • TexRoadkill

        #4
        Re: So, what takes "skill"?

        Yeah, that sounds about right.

        I think anything that can be used or done in the game (except for map glitches) is fair game.

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        • artnez.com

          #5
          Re: So, what takes "skill"?

          Originally posted by glasseye
          taking advantage of unbalanced parts of the game isnt skill.
          Right, but what is unbalanced about using a tank alot? Both sides have a fair amount of vehicles for all maps. What about the grenade launcher... that's balanced too as both sides get a grenade launcher.

          It's not that this game is unbalanced. It's the gameplay that people don't like... as far as I see.

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          • newiq

            #6
            Re: So, what takes "skill"?

            I'd like to say the weapon that requires most skill in this game is the knife. Leon thinks so too :)


            Regarding the "what is skill" question.


            Examples:
            The ability to perform a task or activity consistently over a period of time. The expertise required for a particular task or occupation which may include manual dexterity and/or mental aptitude.


            refers to a person’s ability to perform various types of cognitive or behavioural activity effectively.
            wps.prenhall.com/wps/media/objects/213/218150/glossary.html

            A form of intimacy: knowledge learned through detailed and repeated experience.

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            • Cytrode

              #7
              Re: So, what takes "skill"?

              All is fair in war. If you get good enough at dodging tank shells to bring a DPV loaded with C4 up to a tank and blast everyone to hell, you earned it. If you learn to use jumping effectively to dodge spam fire, you earned it. I myself use the jump key to the fullest in close combat, and I pick off other jumpers just fine, I don't know what you guys are talking about it being cheap.

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              • N2K

                #8
                Re: So, what takes "skill"?

                when was war ever balanced and fair?

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                • imported_Mutrino

                  #9
                  Re: So, what takes "skill"?

                  Originally posted by Cytrode
                  All is fair in war. If you get good enough at dodging tank shells to bring a DPV loaded with C4 up to a tank and blast everyone to hell, you earned it. If you learn to use jumping effectively to dodge spam fire, you earned it. I myself use the jump key to the fullest in close combat, and I pick off other jumpers just fine, I don't know what you guys are talking about it being cheap.
                  This bunny hopping crap is lame, end of story. No skill involved.

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                  • CS-Evolution

                    #10
                    Re: So, what takes "skill"?

                    Originally posted by Wolfgang Abenteuer
                    A good rule of thumb:

                    If you use something to kill someone else, it's skill
                    If someone uses something to kill you, it's cheap

                    Learn this mantra, and you'll go far in the BF2 community.

                    ~Wolfgang
                    I just made that into a bumper sticker.

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                    • Talus
                      Member
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 6854

                      #11
                      Re: So, what takes "skill"?

                      I'd say anything except bunny hopping, dolphin diving, and using the M203 or G30 at close range takes skill.

                      Things that take the most skill (in no particular order):
                      -sniper rifles
                      -pistols
                      -knife
                      -choppers (both transport and attack)
                      -jets
                      -AA turrets
                      -AT rockets

                      These are my opinions.

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                      • Guidon666

                        #12
                        Re: So, what takes "skill"?

                        Originally posted by Wolfgang Abenteuer
                        A good rule of thumb:

                        If you use something to kill someone else, it's skill
                        If someone uses something to kill you, it's cheap

                        Learn this mantra, and you'll go far in the BF2 community.

                        ~Wolfgang

                        You forgot to add:

                        If someone kills you more than once with the same weapon... they are a Whore.

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                        • Taggern

                          #13
                          Re: So, what takes "skill"?

                          Good post. I would add that what you DO with the weapons also matter. Spawn bombing and knifing snipers isnt that hard, for instance.

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                          • DezemoDova

                            #14
                            Re: So, what takes "skill"?

                            IMO, flying choppers and jets, everything else is cake

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                            • artnez.com

                              #15
                              Re: So, what takes "skill"?

                              Originally posted by newiq
                              I'd like to say the weapon that requires most skill in this game is the knife. Leon thinks so too :)


                              Regarding the "what is skill" question.


                              Examples:
                              The ability to perform a task or activity consistently over a period of time. The expertise required for a particular task or occupation which may include manual dexterity and/or mental aptitude.


                              refers to a person’s ability to perform various types of cognitive or behavioural activity effectively.
                              wps.prenhall.com/wps/media/objects/213/218150/glossary.html

                              A form of intimacy: knowledge learned through detailed and repeated experience.
                              https://www.udmercy.edu/faculty_page.../glossary.html
                              I hope you realize the fact that you posting dictionary definitions only exemplifies your own stupidity (read the original post in the correct context and you will see what I am getting at).

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