to whoever says that vehicles ruin the game i have a little reminder

[LaserCobra]

Re: to whoever says that vehicles ruin the game i have a little reminder

When I can put 3 AT missiles into the back and side of an APC and it doesn't die, there's a problem.

BF42 was better because a skilled bazooka man could get behind a tank (even the Tigers) and take it down in 1 or 2 shots. I've tried and tried to do that with the SRAW or Eryx....no dice. Real life - tanks need to be guarded from handheld AT in cities, thats why we have infantry. If I can get around behind a tank and put just ONE AT missile in its exhaust, it should be toast. Its sad when two chunks of C4 is more effective than the AT missiles.

Same with blackhawks - you shouldn't be able to put an entire basic load of AK fire into a hellicopter - I'm talking all 4 mags or whatever - and this thing is still flying. Thats just crap. Helicopters are not as tough as that guy on the front page claims - some bits are tough, and some are incredibly delicate. If an AT missile hits a BH, that should be game over. Same with the jets - the problem is that they are too effective and there's no decent counter. The stingers? Yeah right.

Real men get the job done with their boots on the ground.

There's a fine line between realizm and game play. How retarded would it be it you could take down a BH with an AK?
It would be pointless to have a chopper in the game because it would be owned anytime anyone saw it.

It's all about balance people. No ONE vehicle owns a map.... despite your opinions.



*edit*

Everything has a week point too. I've been looking for them on the tank. One shot with a TOW on the back half of the tank's track = instant death.

[Donkey]

Re: to whoever says that vehicles ruin the game i have a little reminder

I really dont need to research this, i know my aviation well enough, and as i said, leave real life out of this.




Yeah, tanks and such should be able to take some hits to the front, but the rear and topside should be vulnerable,like in Bf1942/BF:V, that was perfect, tanks could take alot to the front, but the rear was like butter.



Decent players shouldnt get scores of 100+ that should be reserved for the very best players, all it takes to rape spawns with sertain vehicles is "be decent". A sign the game isnt balanced.

And what do my stats tell you hmm? Only that im not a poiint whore, dont judge me till you have seen me ingame buddy.

Your stats tell me that you have not spent enough time in this game to make an aqusation as such said...and you obviously dont know your aviation...bottom line you my friend are an asshat (just kidding you prolly are a nice guy)

Oh and ill play with ya in game anytime

[imported_The 13th Raptor]

Re: to whoever says that vehicles ruin the game i have a little reminder

Your stats tell me that you have not spent enough time in this game to make an aqusation as such said...and you obviously dont know your aviation...bottom line you my friend are an asshat (just kidding you prolly are a nice guy)

Oh and ill play with ya in game anytime

I have 4 profiles

No helicopter can "deflect" missles, it can fool them, but a direct hit from a tank should take it down, it shouldnt take 3 AT hits either.

Its not a rediculous suggestion that small arms should do more damage to lets say a helicopter, in BF:V a huey would go down when a full AK47 clip found its way into the engine compartment, nobody complained, and people still camped for helicopters, it warrented more caution, something the BF2 chopper pilots arent that much bothered with. Hovering infront of a building filled with enemy's should spell a quick death, but it doesnt, all it means is a good score for the pilots.

[Donkey]

Re: to whoever says that vehicles ruin the game i have a little reminder

I have 4 profiles

No helicopter can "deflect" missles, it can fool them, but a direct hit from a tank should take it down, it shouldnt take 3 AT hits either.

Its not a rediculous suggestion that small arms should do more damage to lets say a helicopter, in BF:V a huey would go down when a full AK47 clip found its way into the engine compartment, nobody complained, and people still camped for helicopters, it warrented more caution, something the BF2 chopper pilots arent that much bothered with. Hovering infront of a building filled with enemy's should spell a quick death, but it doesnt, all it means is a good score for the pilots.

Um by fooling them causing them to be deflected in there flight path to a new location, they have in fact deflected the missle... I think you took the term a little to seriously...and tell me please, and I want documented proof, of when a tank has ever shot down a helicopter...

Look you already nerfed the BH leave the game alone go play AA or something....

[glasseye]

Re: to whoever says that vehicles ruin the game i have a little reminder

It's all about balance people. No ONE vehicle owns a map.... despite your opinions.

it is about balance, but many ppl either cant understand or refuse to understand what balance means.
btw, there is one vehicle that can own a map but its a secret vehicle so i cant tell you what it is. though i can give you a clue. its name has three letters, starts w/ J and ends w/ T.

and tell me please, and I want documented proof, of when a tank has ever shot down a helicopter...

anytime a chopper was stupid enough to hover around long enough for the tank to hit it.

[Donkey]

Re: to whoever says that vehicles ruin the game i have a little reminder

it is about balance, but many ppl either cant understand or refuse to understand what balance means.
btw, there is one vehicle that can own a map but its a secret vehicle so i cant tell you what it is. though i can give you a clue. its name has three letters, starts w/ J and ends w/ T.


anytime a chopper was stupid enough to hover around long enough for the tank to hit it.

Exactly......someone give this man a cookie

[Flares]

Re: to whoever says that vehicles ruin the game i have a little reminder

I had a horrible round of wake last night, we could barely make it off the carrier. We were playing against some really good pilots. They were barely using their bombs, just using there vulcans. We were already half way down in points and they were wrecking everything we sent ashore. (I am sure they got bored of owning us and let us finally land ashore). Once we finally got ashore and took some points and then they bombed us into the ground. I was cursing and swearing for a good half hour. (i am sure i woke my neighbors). But this is the game i love to hate. There are things that happen in this game that i would like to see changed. There are times when i know i am being out played. But i still seem to have a blast. We all have our own reasons for playing and i for one would not throw out anything in the game. I might just tweak it a little.... :)

That's a good example of player imbalance, rather than equipment imbalance. If you had good pilots flying the F35s and decent gunners manning the two ship surface to air stations, those J10s would be kept at bay long enough for the USMC to get ashore.
By any chance did the USMC team maybe get a flag once, and noone spawned in, but insisted on standing on the carrier awaiting a ride? Or maybe people got ashore, but were not squad leaders? I ask because I see this nonsense taking place all the time on Wake. Examples of no team work and poor tactics, resulting in rape by the Chinese jets.

[SmilingRaccoon]

Re: to whoever says that vehicles ruin the game i have a little reminder

On the larger maps there not enought and on the urban maps theres to many. Like have one tank in karkand is fair, it makes you change classes to kill it where as other maps you can use vechicals. If theres only 1 tank in a map that is mostly infantry fighting it is serverly overbalanced. I would like nothing more then to see a map with 10 jets, 5 on each side and a massive air war or something like that but Dice/EA screwed over the vechicals in BF2. They are fun but ammounts of them suck.

[imported_The 13th Raptor]

Re: to whoever says that vehicles ruin the game i have a little reminder

Um by fooling them causing them to be deflected in there flight path to a new location, they have in fact deflected the missle... I think you took the term a little to seriously...and tell me please, and I want documented proof, of when a tank has ever shot down a helicopter...

I dont need to have documented proof but im pretty sure that a HE 120 MM shell will sorta.. break, a helicopter. I know for a fact that BF2 helicopters can deal out death from a distance using the TV guided missles, but this takes teamwork and skill. When a helicopter decides to get up close and personal they should have something to worry about.

Look you already nerfed the BH leave the game alone go play AA or something....

poor thing..

Listen, ive been playing BF from day one, dont tell me to go play another game because i dont want too. I like vehicles in games, its awesome, but the way dice is implimenting them has not improved over time. Im going to keep "bitching" untill dice gets the clue, or a good mod comes out :)

[12-RST-]

Re: to whoever says that vehicles ruin the game i have a little reminder

Hey HEy now, I came to BF2 from BHD, Bu tI don't get my rox off every time I have a chance to drive something, I get my rox off when I'm playing with a team that knows what Teamwork is and we are purely owning by haivng all the flags and keeping it that way. Vehicles don't ruin this game, the Teenie boppers TKing for vehicles ruin this game.

[BurnTheWeed]

Re: to whoever says that vehicles ruin the game i have a little reminder

I just hate how much I have to be Anti-Tank, not that I don't love the kit, but it gets old when it's really the only thing to counter the massive armor on lots of maps.

[LaserCobra]

Re: to whoever says that vehicles ruin the game i have a little reminder

it is about balance, but many ppl either cant understand or refuse to understand what balance means.
btw, there is one vehicle that can own a map but its a secret vehicle so i cant tell you what it is. though i can give you a clue. its name has three letters, starts w/ J and ends w/ T.


anytime a chopper was stupid enough to hover around long enough for the tank to hit it.

:laugh: Nice.


I was a crack shot when shooting at helo's in my M1A1 in DC. I could down choppers on the edge of the fog line. MAN that was satisfying. One shot = explosion.
I've done it a few times in BF2 but two shots were necessary at times. That could be revised some but it won't stop me from trying.

[LaserCobra]

Re: to whoever says that vehicles ruin the game i have a little reminder

I just hate how much I have to be Anti-Tank, not that I don't love the kit, but it gets old when it's really the only thing to counter the massive armor on lots of maps.

I find spec ops and engineer to be as effective as AT. I love mines the best because they think their all safe after I'm dead but little do they know, I laid mines ALL around them. A tap of the direction key and BOOM!!!!! :evil:

[BurnTheWeed]

Re: to whoever says that vehicles ruin the game i have a little reminder

I find spec ops and engineer to be as effective as AT. I love mines the best because they think their all safe after I'm dead but little do they know, I laid mines ALL around them. A tap of the direction key and BOOM!!!!! :evil:

I find them useful but not as effective, especially with the mines. With the 1.03 patch the mines can be destroyed by the main tank cannon, which kind a nullifies any attempts to stop them or make chokepoints. The spec ops has it's own problems (i.e. c4/det glitch). But both have the problem of having to get right next to the enemy vehicle to destroy it... not always the easiest task. Sure it's fun to get those kills (though you tend to die most of the time you try to do it) but it's far safer to be Anti-Tank since you can snipe from across the map with the rocket.

[Donkey]

Re: to whoever says that vehicles ruin the game i have a little reminder

It is only a game...Play it long enough and you will be good enough at it...IMO the vehicles are balanced fine...And to any of you who say it is ruining the game then why do you play it so much????

I have a feeling that most this bitching has come about since stats have been involved in the game and some people are finally realizing they are not the super uber players they thought they where...So instead of learning and practicing to get better, they come to online forums and bitch about how this vehicle is over powered and this one is that and blah blah phuqin whambulance whaaaaaaaaaa