Accuracy:Bullet Drop& Head Shots

[Eintz]

Re: Accuracy:Bullet Drop& Head Shots

When you set the sites on a real gun. You "Zero" them to a given range.

This is the range at which the sites meet the bullet perfectly, taking into account bullet drop. When aiming with a site you may actually be firing the gun upwards so that the bullet will arc and be pulled down by gravity as it meets the Zeroed range.

- Now if you shoot shorter then your Zeroed ranged, the bullet hits above the site location. Since it has not fallen enough yet.

- If you shoot greater it hits below the site, since it has fallen even more as it proceeds beyond the Zeroed range.

Target shooting with a normal gun you would counter these effects by tuning your site with the range adjustment knob. In combat you may not have time to do this for each shot. Thus the sites will be off if you are NOT shooting at exactly the Zeroed range. We have no clue what the Zeroed range is for the sites on the guns in this game. Nor do we have a knob to adjust them.

I know from experience the Susat Scope on the L85A1 has 300meters as the lowest setting. Thus 300m is the shortest you can zero that gun for. If you want the adjustment knob to perform correctly. Shorter than 300meters you might be shooting high. Beyond you might be shooting low.

Wear and tear on gun parts will also effect the deviation of the bullet even more. A well maintainned target shooting gun might deviate as little as 1 inch at 100yards. A battle worn gun might deviate up to 6 inches.

[Arkasha]

Re: Accuracy:Bullet Drop& Head Shots

Um, OK. But this has what to do with bullet drop in BF2?

[KFCazure]

Re: Accuracy:Bullet Drop& Head Shots

There's bullet drop. When I'm shooting at someone 270-350 yards away, I have to aim a pixel or two (at 1024x768) above their head to hit them. It's nowhere near the bullet drop of a real life rifle, of course, but it's there.

[Eintz]

Re: Accuracy:Bullet Drop& Head Shots

If they modelled Bullet drop in the game, then...

The ammount of Bullet drop would only be evident when shooting beyond the Zeroed range of the sites. You could find this by finding at what range the sites are dead on. "Zeroed"

If the sites are zeroed pretty far out say 300meters. There will be increased inaccuracy at close range! Could explain the mess of trying to land a bullet on someone at close range sometimes. So a head shot at 50 meters with gun Zeroed at 300 meters will be actually shooting higher then the sites and could miss.

[Arkasha]

Re: Accuracy:Bullet Drop& Head Shots

OK, that makes sense. But then wouldn't the rifles be extremely limited? So much so they'd be useless?

I can't see programming in the "perfect" range but with no way to adjust for it. Also, I've experienced situations where I can miss, miss, and then hit, all at the same target, without moving the rifle at all (I left the mouse alone and used my keyboard alternative button to fire).

[DeathFromAbove]

Re: Accuracy:Bullet Drop& Head Shots

Accuracy is not in my dirctionary!


P.S. I play support

[glasseye]

Re: Accuracy:Bullet Drop& Head Shots

Laws of physics state that bullets do not decrease inspeed but the gravity pulls them towards earth...

in a vacuum maybe. earth has air.

[Cekken]

Re: Accuracy:Bullet Drop& Head Shots

aim for the neck!

[Drevor]

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holy sh.. how many of you whisegys actually used the M95 more than once? there is a bullet drop ... and a bullet rise .. but thats another storry ..
someone please dig out that old post with those 4 movies - I cant seem to find it :hmm:

Edit: ive NEVER shoot to the left or right of my target (except after/while moving myself). But I do see hits above(behind) or below them.

[silG]

Re: Accuracy:Bullet Drop& Head Shots

cant someone just look into the game files?

[rombaft]

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I don't know if there is bullet drop, but before BF2 came out, there was some vid circeling around of some EA guy on some game event showing of with BF 2 and he said one of the features of BF2 was bullet drop.

But it could be they left this out in the actual relaese of the game

[Drevor]

Re: Accuracy:Bullet Drop& Head Shots

would you please read this and the next page:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gen...3743536&page=2

He slowed down the bullets, added a smoke trail just to see how the bullets move. any they ALL dropped.
Extremely slowed down M4 and highspeed C4:

http://media.putfile.com/bulletdrop

... everything drops! nades, C4, tank-shels, nubtubes and YES! rifle bullets...

READ! THINK! READ AGAIN! DONT POST THAT THERE IS NO DROP

[Mr. ADHD]

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Let us all agree....THERE IS BULLET DROP...if they can make a 203 drop....they can make a bullet drop!

Now close this post...because I like to have the last word! hAHAHAHAHAHA

that cat is freaky btw. I hate cats!

[Mr. ADHD]

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I believe ya man...

Naw, there is definetely bullet drop in the BF2 engine. As i have done a good bit of testing for the PR minimod now, (i cant say too much more than this), but the zoom and accuracy of the sniper rifles are such that there is no chance of a random bullet cone being a factor in long range sniper shots (when prone and zoomed in as i was)

Tested on dalian plant, 64 players. from the chinese main base, there is a wooden bridge that has view of a break in the fence around the actual central plant with the large silos all around it.

we had a guy park a chinese armored jeep there, and we shot at specific points.

without fail, every shot dropped and went to the left of where it was aimed at, as we told our man standing there where we were aiming, and he'd report where the shot actually hit (using the bullet marks made on the vehicle)

i dont remember specifics, and i can't make a vid of unreleased mod content, but there is definetely still bullet drop in the bf2 engine (seeing as no bullet drop has yet been modified)

[Mr. ADHD]

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This video looks like proof enough...what next...OH he modified the deviation???

U say deviation I say Bullet drop mo'fo'.

http://media.putfile.com/bulletdrop