jeeps/buggies are better AA weapons..

[A$$a$$ination]

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Agree, mushtar is great for it

[glasseye]

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On another note, i haven't unlocked the PKM, which i plan on unlocking in the near future (hopefully) is it as effective as the PKMs mounted on the vehicles?

400 for attack. 600 for transport. if they all hit.

im not sure if its lag or not but im my screen the missiles are hitting directly on the jeep and not doing any damage. even my co pilots are dumbfounded. with tanks and apcs it takes 4-5 direct hits and their dead, it seems like the jeeps have the same defence against cobra missiles as tanks do

you were missing.

[The_Misfit]

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The helicopters in the game are very agile, and with a good pilot at the helm, very dangerous (especially the cobra),

Just got on this thread....anyway.. "especially the cobra" ??!@?~!?$ Are you on crack? The MI-28, while not as agile as the supercobra, has what amounts to a grenade launcher mounted on the front of it, as opposed to cobras gun -- which I think is an MP5 and some duct tape.

I'll take the MI-28 anyday, pwns infantry, and with the right pilot can deal with cobras all day long.

As far as your original post -- yes, f'ing jeeps are great AA vehicles. I hate arriving at a flag, only to find a jeep gunner tearing you up.

I've also unlocked the PKM, haven't taken one down yet, but I've made the cobra smoke enough that it left my area alone :)

[greggerm]

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...Well that answers that for me! My next unlock = PKM.

I thoroughly enjoy defending flags from helo-cappers with an FAV. Now I know to significantly weaken them with the FAV gun, and if I get rocketed, respawn with a PKM to finish the job.

Often times a squadmate and I will get a pair of FAVs and just wait in defense. Even a repairing Blackhawk has trouble against that combo.

[193d Klink]

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PKMs are good to chase a Helo away if it is not damaged. You will overheat or run out of ammo before taking it out (If you are the only one attacking it). The PKM was my first unlock. Fire in burst to avoid overheating...but still nothing compaired to .50 cals...which were created to take out light vehicles.

I find it VERY frustraiting to get into a AA Vehicle and struggle to take down helos with it while the Mounted .50 cals on other vehicles tear them up.

[HowieMandel]

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dont get me started...........

these heat seeking AA suck. Badly. A lock on is a lock on.....but i've had lock on, and no Flares shot out of the helo.... shot at it..(it was right in front me, basically) so anyways, i shoot the 2 shots at it........and wahla....I tk a fellow team mate in a jet.....that wasn't even in my FOV. Hell i never seen or heard this jet.
AA sucks in this game.
How about the linebacker? I've had lock on with it as well. Shot all 5 heatseekers at the helo......all 5 miss. Apparently locking on a to a "hotter" source, that being apparently a cloud.
So yes, the buggies, and humvees are all much better in taking down a helo, then that of a missle designed to take out a helo. lol
wow.
I'd much rather a player aimed rocket. NOt TV or laser mind you. One in which you actually lead and aim to kill. It would be by far more effective then heat seekers. And more fun.
On some servers where the BH is owning...i keep screaming to teammates..USSE THE BUGGIES!!!. Eventually they come around, then the BH isnt seen much after that.
I hope the AA is fixed in the patch

[Jeffrey_Dahmer]

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I've found that 2 Vodniks are enough to secure a base against the BH in Maaaaaaaaashtuuuuuuuur. On more than one occasion, the use of Vehicular Machine Guns has been an effective enough deterrent to keep BH from returning to the base I'm defending.

J.

[DLWebmaestro96]

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You just have to keep the Seahawk's minis off your Vodniks' butts while they lay into it.

[HYP3R]

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Anyone else agrees jeeps/buggies are better than the stationary AA?

I totally agree. I have shot down at least 15 BH over the past several months. You just have to be at the right place at the right time. If the enemy sees you, then you are toast. The BH will take out a jeep in under 2 seconds.

[regal7788]

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how about this, instead of aa missles, flack cannons that does like 75% damage with a direct hit. this way if the people miss, its not the missle fault, its that they cant aim.

[jdrou]

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On another note, i haven't unlocked the PKM, which i plan on unlocking in the near future (hopefully) is it as effective as the PKMs mounted on the vehicles?

The good anti-helicopter mounted guns are .50cal (M2HB/Kord/Type85). The PKM is actually not as good as the SAW; SAW does more damage/second because of its higher rate of fire.

[catskill]

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The best thing about using the vehicle mounted guns against helos is when the helo realizes he has to get away and starts flying off but you just keep it on him and "boom" no more heli.

Of course I cant stand it when they do it to me. For a while i was mad about Mashtuur City getting owned by the BH.... now its my fav map. If I am USMC I try to BH it.... if I am MEC I try to take over the BH base or find myself a nice spot and wait for the BH to come around.... I sweep the gun around the crew area a bit try to knock out any engi's... once I see a couple of bodies drop go for the kill. Its great.

One question - why on Mastuur sometimes the heli spawn point are cappable and sometimes they are not?

[imported_DaDDeh]

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Nothing more I love then on songhua stalemate as chinese sitting next to the AA in a FAV (If the AA is taken) and waiting for the BH's to appear, if the AA gets a hit even better for me in the FAV, I have scored no end of BH kills doing this and it gives the AA gunner protection against the BH's at the same time.

Why more people don't use the FAV in combo with AA i'll never understand, even as stated on Mashtuur people seem to leave the vodniks and the BH has full control of the sky, not me i'll grab the tank or vodnik and give that BH some grief. :)

[DLWebmaestro96]

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One question - why on Mastuur sometimes the heli spawn point are cappable and sometimes they are not?

I can only recall the 64-player version, since those are all I play anymore, but maybe the 32 and lower versions are what you are thinking aboot?

[arai]

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the buggies and lav's are too strong against heli's? get a better crew. with a good gunner it becomes extremly hard to consistantly down choppers even 3 vehicle convoys are easy for a good chopper pilot when he has an experienced gunner. tv missle for the immediate threat then a salvo of 14 missles for the other 2, even if there is a 4th or 5th vehicle all you have to do is duck behind a water tower or hill for a sec for 14 more missles. granted you have to be a good shot with those missles but practice makes perfect.

in my opinion a great helicopter crew can change the tide of the map. I go out of my way to know where all aa vehicles spawn on a map, where all mobile aa sites are. when hovering over areas or flags I contantly switch to outer front and rear views to spoil that anti tanker that thought he got the jump on us. I've learnt the maps so I can fly at 2 feet off the ground for the entire map to duck behind buildings an trees.

and all that hard work sure pays off when I get a good gunner who sticks with me, the mi-28 with its cannon owns on both vehicles and infantry. man now I'm gettin the itch to play, to bad I'm at work.

anyway , to address the posts origional intent I would agree that apc's are effective agaist choppers, they chew through the health pretty quick and because they dont lock on a chopper doesnt know its there until much later. an aa gun you can hear from a mile away, then identify the threat and remove it. I find they are good against blackhawks for "sniping" out the gunners without having to destroy the chopper.

. but the best anti helicopter vehicle is still a jet, even without missles. that cannon chews through stuff really quick if you can be accurate with it. haha last night I got a good bead on a tank with the cannons from a mig while it was crossing a bridge, and the fire from my jet actually pushed the tank off the bridge into the water, it was crazy. heh, fun though