[UM]United Members,these guys wont last long like this

[imported_ColonelPanic]

Re: [UM]United Members,these guys wont last long like this

Report the server company to EA, because EA says that FF should be on and it is suggested that it should be set to 100%. If they let their clients turn FF off then they are violating the rules EA has set down for ranked servers.

Well, apparently FF being on is not an enforced ranked server policy. Other settings are forced and cannot be changed but apparently not FF.

As for all this C4 boosting (kinda reminds me of the unreal tournament instagib boosting in the original UT, if any of you played that. I didn't agree with that either and that ability was actually removed from the later versions.), seems pretty 'tarded to me. That's all I have to say. I stick to the official EA server's anyway. Everyone knows clan servers suck. :)

[dazzy]

Re: [UM]United Members,these guys wont last long like this

the guy knows hes in the wrong which is why hes coming up with all these gay and meaningless replies.

[Dangerdog]

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So freaking what if they want to C4 boost, spawn point rape, camp out in the enemy main base that cant be captured, turn off voting, launch artillery strikes against their own team even, if you don't like it - play somewhere else, I haven't seen very many ranked servers with FF off so it's not like they can go anywhere and do this "c4 boosting".

[HowieMandel]

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if your in an area of a building, your really not supposed to be............

wtf would you call that?

C4 boosting, if not illegal, certainly should be. I mean, come on lets get some common sense.
This clan eats jack-ass, ass. Boost yourself into a part of a building, wher you cant be seen, yet can shoot out.... paleese. Thats about kiddy as kan be.
Loser. Oh, and if you got to prove something, im game. You aint ****........those pictures prove it.

Dorks.

[HowieMandel]

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So freaking what if they want to C4 boost, spawn point rape, camp out in the enemy main base that cant be captured, turn off voting, launch artillery strikes against their own team even, if you don't like it - play somewhere else, I haven't seen very many ranked servers with FF off so it's not like they can go anywhere and do this "c4 boosting".

God, are you an idiot.

We are talking RANKED SERVER here. NOt someones personal server. If your server is RANKED, you no longer have it to do what and when you want to it. Duh.
Ranked is for us good guys. These guys are dip****s. And they CANT DO WHATEVER THEY WANT, by the way, on the ranked server. You'll see.

[DoDKrazyIvan]

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When EA let's it be known that C4 Boosting is a method of "cheating" or as you CLAIM - gaining an unfair advantage. We will immediately cease all operations with the explosives. Until then, have a nice day and keep up the complaints. I will never have time to address them all. Most people it seems just enjoy the sport of a good argument it seems.

I think that what you've overlooked here is that the argument is not so much over "C4 boosting" as it is over glitching. Simply getting on top of buildings does not give a major advantage, as you've pointed out. You can still be sniped, or hit by artillery, or by a skilled grenade shot. The problem described, though, is that admin users on this server are getting on top of a building where a "glitch" exists, and getting inside the walls of the building, where they cannot be harmed. From here, they can indeed kill at will without any threat of being killed in return. Even more reprehensible, when any players on the server complain about the behaviour, they are banned from the server. It certainly appears that your admin users on the server are engaging in a map expoit, and I would hope that you look very closely at the people you have running this server.

[Platinum Bastard]

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We have notified all ranked server partners to monitor for this sort of behavior and to report it moving forward. If you are playing on a Ranked server and observe this behavior, please report it on the forums at www.bf2rankedservers.com.

[BIFF EXPLODER]

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THEY ARE GOING DOWN!!! this server is getting more and more known for the way the admins abuse of their powers.

*edit* they are not running a ranked strike at kharkand only server anymore, now they have a unranked server with custom maps and punkbuster off :P

looks like the guys that were right about everything suddenly got afraid of something... i wonder why

[rombaft]

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so ?? this isn't exploiting and you won't get many points extra for it, and if the have no FF you have no FF to and you can do the same.

Who cares

[BIFF EXPLODER]

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so ?? this isn't exploiting and you won't get many points extra for it, and if the have no FF you have no FF to and you can do the same.

Who cares

what the hell are u talkin about?

[HaXoRShunT3R]

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Using this exploit in a ranked server is unacceptable, they might as well be logged in with 'god mode '

How can it be ok to be on a ranked server and not be able to be killed ?

After reading the posts on this and related forums posted in this thread, I won't be logging into their server, whats the point ....can't kill them.

Then this decided it for me,

http://img361.imageshack.us/my.php?image=proof26by.jpg

Nothing worse than a power mad admin, own him you get kicked...if you could kill him that is .....sounds like alot of fun on the [UM] server, but I'll give it a miss.

[usutennisguy]

UM rules

Well, I thought it would be prudent to return to the site and address some more issues and questions.

First I'd like to point out that we can not do anything we want even though we administrate the server and pay for it.


This is what we can and can not do - If you don't agree with what freedoms are given to us, tough. EA will address the issues at hand in the patch most likely. And furthermore - append more rules they feel necessary to our Hosting provider for Ranked Servers.

Here is a quote from one of the Clanforge employees at Multiplay.co.UK:


CLARIFICATION
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ClanForge has NEVER forced friendly fire to be on 100% for BF2.
While ClanForge is capable of doing this, the only variables we restrict with ClanForge are variables that directly relate to your billing or variables that are defined elsewhere in your profile tabs.
Examples of this are: Server name, number of slots, time limit, logo urls, public/private flag.

In the case of restricted variables on ranked BF2 servers, it is the server itself that will override anything you are not permitted to do. For example, if you change the ticket rate in your server config, and your server is running in ranked mode, it will ignore whatever you have changed it to in your config and run the maps with the pre-defined ticket rate. The server wont over-write the setting in the config, it will simply ignore it.
DICE/EA intorduced these enforced settings in the 1.01 patch. However, friendly fire is NOT one of the settings they have enforced in the server.
As far as we are concerned, unless the server forces a setting (or it is a setting we restrict due to billing reasons), clans are free to modify them as they wish, including FF. This will continue to be the case until we hear official word from our contacts in EA and not some comment made on a news post by some random EA community bloke.

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Adding on to that, We do not tolerate anyone using the exploit of getting "inside" or even on top of 1 'specific' building in "Strike at Karkand." [UM]Bandit, owner and head adminstrator of the server has even banned clan members (for several days) for going on top after being warned. While i realize that most people who have posted in this thread have seen the screenshots seemingly taken of players atop of that building and an angry admin addressing multiple accusations that were not appropriate (aka: hacking, cracking, using scripts, etc). The people addressing Aircraft-Ace were creating an atmosphere where the game turned out to be a battle of words and not guns.

While Aircraft-Ace was on top of that building when he & another individual discovered it, many people were accusing him of hacking, cracking, using scripts. Being on top of a building is NOT , i repeat, NOT hacking! And no i'm not talking about just being on top, i mean inside. If I was wealthy enough and cared as much as some Americans I could bring those individuals into court. When an individual accuses another of hacking, the Accused becomes liable immediately. Should Aircraft-Ace defend himself the legal way or should he just take these false accuastions with a frown? Of course I am not going to go the extreme and spend $1000s on a young teenager that hasn't been taught proper ethics yet.

If an elderly lady that spills coffee on herself sues McDonalds for $1 million AND WINS! --- I'd think my chances of silencing a few threats to shutdown our server for violating no rules would be very rewarding as well!
What say you to that.

Ace has since ceased all attempts and usage of the building that has an apparent flaw in its rooftop design.

But...seeing how repulsive it is to use a glitch to get a few kills. The spamming will probably not stop since several of you seemingly have employed a plan to Blacklist our clan server. Someone apparently started a thread asking if our ranked status should be stripped away yesterday. Thread was closed since blacklisting clans is forbidden on these forums.


On a Ranked BF2 Server - MANY people argue the rules of Friendly Fire, uses of C4 that we have developed, spawnkilling rules (not just for our server but any server), and so on. The only people that have the legal Right of saying it is Fair play or Illegal is EA. Our rules are fair to everyone and while I remember reading that one individual claimed that our skill alone was getting on top rooftops to gain an upperhand. I have to ask him/her " So what!? We get killed numerous times by artillery, snipers and failed attempts at reaching our targets." That basically sums up to - more kills from you guys/girls....more deaths for us.

We're just having a bunch of guys trying to have fun! Is there nothing wrong with that? Pay $90/month for your own ranked server, and without breaking any rules set forth for ranked servers - have fun in your own ways, then get negative responses and feeble attempts to shut your server down by a 14 year old teenager named "Killer-Ape".

Isn't that why we play a game...to have fun? Reading some of the above responses show otherwise since people just like gaining rank and saying "I can pwn the UM clan". Try using some english in the dictionary and maybe I'll address what you...tried telling me? The last exam I took in college, I don't think I read any of the words, "Newb", or "pwn" in the instructions so...forgive me but you'll have to explain those a bit for me - seeing I'm an adult with an education.


With that last comment about "fun" being said, All of you guys will seem to claim we should lose our ranked status. Let me ask you this, When did EA say we could NOT bunny hop, have FF off (the quote up top has proof of that alone), spawncamp, or jump on rooftops? EA has all the power in the world. If they say we can not engage in a specific action on a ranked server, we WILL abide by their laws. We have done nothing to break the EA Games EULA in which we all agreed upon while playing on PB enabled - Ranked BF2 Servers. If you don't like a server that restricts your favorite actions, then...choose a different server!

Try working hard with a career in order to pay for a game server of your own and someday...most of you may understand the trials that will come your way about the rules you apply.

We provide a free ranked non-laggy server for the public to play on. Hence...

We make up rules for our server including: No Team Killing on purpose, stat padding, using profane or racist language.

Who wants a server with rules forbidding the types of gameplay that help win rounds and further develop team work. If our opposing team loses all their capturable flags and may only spawn on their Perminent base we will attack it as to decrease their ticket total quicker.

When the map loads up I thought I remembered reading somthing about what Conquest Gameplay is designed for. "Decreasing the enemies tickets to 0"

Note: Things not expressed in Conquest gameplay definition in default maps.

Bunny hopping, attacking Uncapturable bases, using the Black Hawk and/or tanks for their entire purpose. If you see anything reguarding those actions in the Conquest gameplay description, could you please take a screenshot for me and put it up here to prove me wrong.

EA Put the weapons, vehicles, and Aircraft in the game so we could all have a variety of weapons to use. I've read people making accusations of "noob weapons" for almost every gun in the game -> the Shotgun, C4 Explosives, gernades, gernade launcher, tank, APC, Black hawk... The list goes on.

Summing it up, People will always disagree on what is morally right and wrong, so who is to decide here that our rules are fair or illegal?

EA Games my friends!

Not the angry person that gets kicked for breaking one of our few server rules and starting a nasty thread about our clan name...


On a side note:
'Killer-Ape' the individual that started this whole never-ending debate was banned for repeatadly swearing on our server. I guess getting a kick/ban was enough for him to rebel and target a small clan server with revenge by starting multiple threads in different forums questioning our rules, morals, actions and rights to a server with Ranked status.

If people would actually read my entire posts...this would all come to an end...but impatience is a human characteristic so maybe typing all this will be for nothing. (accounting for my other posts in this discussion)

[BIFF EXPLODER]

Re: [UM]United Members,these guys wont last long like this

say whatever you want... you are just trying to fool the ppl who have not wittnessed the kind of admin you do in the server, and baning clan members for using the exploit??? just some time ago this was the way things went in your server:
"Exploiting=no problem we might aswell do it ourselves because ITS OUR SERVER AND WE RULE IT AND WE ROCK CAUSE WE ARE ....... COOL!!!!" (

"say exploiting is wrong and you should not do it=I'M GOING TO BAN YOU THIS IS OUR SERVER WE DO WHATEVER WE WANT"

is that a good ranked server policy? i guess no... and now for some reason and since all the threads in the forums started u even say u are baning clan members for doing it... i call that one thing -> FEAR! and if u are afraid that means u know what you were doing is wrong.

1 more thing when you say " WE PAY ****LOADS OF MONEY TO USE IT HOW WE WANT WE OWN IT WE ARE ALL MIGHTY POWERFULL bla... bla... bla..." imagine you go to a gun store and buy a friggin hell of a big gun, well its still yours but are you allowed to kill loads of ppl with it just because its yours? of course not because u are still under something called the law, and the law in bf2 is the agreement you have to accept when renting a ranked server and correct me if i'm wrong, but is there a lign saying "use exploits whenever u want cause we dont give a damn"?

oh even 1 more thing, i didn read your entire post cause its full of crap like your pants right now from beeing afraid from having your stats sreset, and if u are reading this it means u read mine and i didnt read yours HAH i'm more important than you exploiter..... (excuse me but i like to act like a stupid kid sometimes )

[blokie]

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how exactly do you get onto the top of the building ?

I have seen people on the roof of the tall building near the bridge at Karland and also on the building to the right of the first MEC spawnpoint -

Are these only accesable when the FF is off and where the hell is the entrance ?

[usutennisguy]

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Before I start read the these first sentences are for
Biff Exploder (I hope he reads this much!) because he doesn't read entire postings. (he said it himself!):laugh:

I'll just throw in the end of our hosting provider's quote:

As far as we are concerned, unless the server forces a setting (or it is a setting we restrict due to billing reasons), clans are free to modify them as they wish, including FF. This will continue to be the case until we hear official word from our contacts in EA and not some comment made on a news post by some random EA community bloke.



Ok, back to the message now, you can do what you always do now Biff Exploder. Reply without reading the thread :laugh: :laugh:

I'll start creating automated replies Just for you haha



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Speaking of agreements, They should modify the Agreement terms you accept when joining this forum to exclude people that act with the maturity of a 9 year old and make useless postings on threads in order to gain rank. At least try and act like the American I am Biff.

Secondly, The 2 primary admins and owner have nothing to fear because we havn't violated the EULA.

3rd, accusing me of initiating a shooting in real life - I should sue you for even suggesting that. I am a religious college student - bound for a sucessful career and I play BF2 in my leisurely time. Apparently... you have watched too many movies.

Ya know............. i'm not even really upset because by saying you don't read my replies - means your only real intent here is to frustrate me. I refuse to get angry over someone who hasn't had the luxury of a decent childhood.

I'm sorry you behave the way you are... i feel bad for you man...

In answering Blokie's question:

With Friendly Fire off you can C4 Boost (the name says it all) yourself with 2 or more blocks. It's all about angles and where you position yourself.

Glitching - yes anyone is treading on thin ice who takes active part in this on a ranked server. Well said Blokie. Because of you we actually added a new server message reminder to everyone that plays on our server! Thanks m8:) :)

Here is one of the two server announcements now:

Server Rules: No team killing on purpose, No point farming/stat padding, Anybody going on the train Station roof (glitched) will be banned on the spot!

To tell you the truth though... When it was first discovered, we weren't sure much of what it was. By the way, you CAN die while in that spot ;-) Trust me on that. The Enemy commander just has to catch us off guard. Once again not to give the wrong impression here, and to ...address Biff Exploder again (doesn't matter cause he doesn't read this :p ). We don't do this and we banned members for several days for trying it out. I like how he jumps the gun and overexaggerates on everything I say. If I was a psychology major I would like to see how well you would do in real - everyday life. :) But that's just me!


Knives and pistols though. We stay far from that unless we turn off the ranking to have a bit of pure carnage! I heard rumors that eXp. Elktric got reset because he got caught on one of those servers. (it's pure stat padding in its entirety). But rumors are always half true so anybody feel free to correct me on that one! I tried googling his name but all i got were his ranking profiles.


Well... Time to wait for some more replies. This thread will probably hold the record for most views and replies by the end of the month :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I won't make this message nearly as big, otherwise it will just turn into a useless rant.

Now the replies begin again... :)