Baseraping issue..lame or not

[WrAth2110]

Re: Baseraping issue..lame or not

Not lame. If there is a spawn whore, they can be killed. Plain and simple.

[redrider]

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Seems to me this would be a non-issue if all flags were capable on every map. Myself I think spawn camping and base rapeing suck if it happens once on a map I simply will not respawn any more, untill we have another flag, or new map. Press enter to select a spawn point and wait for the next map.Seems like a simple answer to me.

[Kleinzeit]

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It's lame and always will be. Sadly, there will always be plenty of players round with a win or die attitude and no sense of sportsmanship.

C'est la guerre

[imported_fvbyfv]

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Its lame when there are still bases that can be capped but if all bases belong to your team then fire away on the main base.

But again its really only the stat whores that base rape when there are flags to be capped.


Hell last night on the oilfields we had 4 tanks (maybe one was a APC) and 4 snipers just sitting in our main base (China) whoring away while we had all but one American flag.. their tickets were just bleeding away but they didnt care...why should they each of them got no less then 45 points

[Brucewillis2]

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In one way I agree with the poster who mentioned that if you get yourself in that position you pay the consequences....

BUT! and it's a big BUT.

If your getting nailed in your base (last remaining spawn point) when you spawn you sometimes spawn in the open and have to spend a few seconds orientating yourself to your surroundings... and get killed by a great fat big tank. So in that regard spawn raping a base is no good.

Quick kind of Solution: you can attack a base but not inside the last base, so at least it gives players a chance to form some kind of defense and not just die when they respawn.

my 10c.

[DU_is_good_4U]

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I love raping the hell out of the enemy at his only spawn point... especially when they start bitching and disconnecting, that makes it even more funny.

A man after my own heart!

[DU_is_good_4U]

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this pretty much sums up my belief on the matter, particularly the making up rules is the lamest of all part. when the game devolves into baseraping, does it suck (especially if you're the rapee)? hell yeah it does. nothing in more irritating then getting trapped on the aircraft carrier in Gulf of Oman while the other team lines up on the beach waiting to beat the crap out of the odd player who makes it ashore.

but honestly, what do you expect?

when someone on this thread said he banned people for not "giving the other team a chance", i agreed 100% with the guy who was like "so you do what? force everyone to pull back and let the other team get a few flag captures???" i place these self-imposed 'honor' rules in the same category as "oh I don't use the best weapons / techniques in the game because *i* think they're stupid/n00b/lame/whatever" yes, things like blackhawk whoring are pretty stupid, but people are going to use them whether you like it or not.

again, what do you want? if one team totally dominates the other, do you honestly expect them to give capture points BACK!?!!?!?? what, so they can just take them again? i can't believe some here who think that baseraping is a bannable offense. baseraping sucks, but enforcing crazy rulesets in an attempt to correct it is even sillier.

instead of trying to impose some sort of forced retreat on the winners, how about making a script such that once one team has totally pinned down the other for several minutes, it automatically ends that round. that would achieve a level reset while giving something to the winners (well, you'd probably want to give them some points too). i think that would be a great thing for EA & DICE to implement. that and fixing all the bugs...

Well Said.

[colony]

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Man, I don't know what kind of smack you're shooting but I've almost never seen the MEC win Clean Sweep unless the US has no pilots. Clean Sweep is a stat padder map for me. If I go US and hop in the F-15, the MEC have no chance. I might die once or twice from a lucky Tunguska missile but the rest of the time I'm executing any enemy in a vehicle or any enemy at a white flag.

Bring on that baseraping nonsense. It's legal, it's tactical, and it works. I typically won't rape until it's the last base left but if I can't find any ground targets to bomb, I'll go work the enemy main until someone musters the nuts to get up in the air with me... And for that smacktard above who uses a script to autokick players who cuss, what is your malfunction? Let me see, it's ok to stick a knife in a man's head, but don't drop an F-bomb when some fool in a jet rams your chopper. That's just too graphic... And don't forget kiddies, it's not nice to kill the enemy when he's pinned back at his main base!!! Are you kidding me? This is war, son. We don't make exceptions. There's no time-out, no safe zone, no mommy to hold you when the enemy is at the gates... Go play some Nintendogs and leave the war to the soldiers!

:laugh:

Right on man. Everything you said in there I agree with. This is war, the game is about attacking, defending, and generally dominating the whole map. That is the goal. Its the fault of the team on the recieving end.

I personally LOVE to baserape with the Jets. Going on bombing runs has almost gotten me kicked from a couple servers cuz im so good at it now(disgruntled players started vote kick)

[colony]

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It's lame and always will be. Sadly, there will always be plenty of players round with a win or die attitude and no sense of sportsmanship.

C'est la guerre

WAR ISNT A GODDAMN SPORT. WOW

[bisley]

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Yawn , not again . Deal with it FFS

[Papigiulio]

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the worst part about the authors post.... ugh.

thats not the issue here. Stay ontopic please!!

I've long had a divergent opinion with the community on this.

Back in Desert Combat, many servers had this rule:

"No attacking the uncapturable enemy base unless you own all other flags."

I think that rule is absolutely ridiculous. My rule?

"You can attack the uncapturable enemy base only if you DON'T own all of the other flags."

Competition is fun. Taking pride in outsmarting the other team is fun. Mindless tank-spam at newly-spawned troops isn't fun.

See, I think attacking an enemy base (when there are other spawn options) is not only valid, but damned smart and cunning. I attack enemy bases all the time. It requires awareness, skill and luck.

I usually infiltrate on foot, sabotage a few vehicles, kill a few guys, and generally cause chaos. I'll jump in an APC for 30 seconds, then get out and get in a jeep instead. Then I'll run around on foot and pick off infantry. Then I'll man a TOW and knock out a tank. It's all about unpredictability, surprise, and suppression. Of course, it's also hard work - I am usually alone without support, healing, or backup. I run out of ammo often, and have to pick up enemy kits. It's dangerous, and the enemy knows where to find me.

But it's worth it, because I make it a hell of a lot easier for my team to take flags, defend flags, and win.

If a given player doesn't want to deal with me in the main base, he can spawn elsewhere. If there isn't anywhere else to spawn I'll hold off my attack until they get another flag.

As for the "base-raping", you all can blame DICE. Their insistence on using static spawn points for flags is one of their more abhorrant design offenses. Players should spawn randomly within a given area, which would make the "no other flags for the other team to spawn at" style of camping a lot harder to pull off.

I totally agree with your rule now btw. :)

Yawn , not again . Deal with it FFS

Shiat just don't reply if you don't got any constructive to say. :cry:

[Ghiest]

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That's why I don't play bad maps like Oman that are totally open to that type of behvior. Sharqi and Karkand (and sometimes Mashtuur) are the only maps I play because they are indicative of good map design. Designed not to infuriate the player base that is.

[ODB]

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Man, I don't know what kind of smack you're shooting but I've almost never seen the MEC win Clean Sweep unless the US has no pilots. Clean Sweep is a stat padder map for me. If I go US and hop in the F-15, the MEC have no chance. I might die once or twice from a lucky Tunguska missile but the rest of the time I'm executing any enemy in a vehicle or any enemy at a white flag.

Bring on that baseraping nonsense. It's legal, it's tactical, and it works. I typically won't rape until it's the last base left but if I can't find any ground targets to bomb, I'll go work the enemy main until someone musters the nuts to get up in the air with me... And for that smacktard above who uses a script to autokick players who cuss, what is your malfunction? Let me see, it's ok to stick a knife in a man's head, but don't drop an F-bomb when some fool in a jet rams your chopper. That's just too graphic... And don't forget kiddies, it's not nice to kill the enemy when he's pinned back at his main base!!! Are you kidding me? This is war, son. We don't make exceptions. There's no time-out, no safe zone, no mommy to hold you when the enemy is at the gates... Go play some Nintendogs and leave the war to the soldiers!

What a load of crap. Its a game, its there to be enjoyed by both sides not for you to live out your little fantasies about being a big tough soldier and taking on the world.

Its the must win at all costs which is becoming more and more entrenched on this game that is having a major negative impact on the whole Battlefield 2 experience. If you need to prove that you're more of a soldier than someone else by playing a game then you need help.

[Timoch]

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IMO, for the most part lame.

[Rogue845]

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What a load of crap. Its a game, its there to be enjoyed by both sides not for you to live out your little fantasies about being a big tough soldier and taking on the world.

Its the must win at all costs which is becoming more and more entrenched on this game that is having a major negative impact on the whole Battlefield 2 experience. If you need to prove that you're more of a soldier than someone else by playing a game then you need help.

I agree with this guy. It's not actual war, it is a game! A little sportsmanship would go along way to making this GAME more fun to play.

I'm not saying let the enemy take a flag, just back off and let them get organised and get back into the GAME and make it more interesting. If the nme is that bad then they will just be pushed back into their base again.

Those people that spwancamp are just point whores with inferiority complexes who need to feel good about themselves.