Baseraping issue..lame or not

[Papigiulio]

Even tho I really detest maps with on both sides not having uncappable flags, like karkand.....And dont get me wrong my hours on karkand and sharqi are way more then on any other map and I don't dislike Karkand cus the map is awesome, but I prefer to play on a biased map where both teams have an uncappable flag.

Now my point is, when playing on a map like Gulf of Oman with uncappable flags, when one of the teams is really weak, alot of players on the other team tend to baserape the weak team. artillery is well the usual, but then there is basecamping tanks, overflying bomb dropping planes, chopper camping gits etc etc you name it it happens often enough.

What I don't get is, what is so much fun about easy kills?? I mean Just join the weak team and try to do some effort eh? I wanna hear your oppinions, is baseraping lame or what? Cus I know, it gets boring if everyone is waiting for a plane, so yeh then ya drop a bomb on their heads, but still....

your thoughts? :)

[Professor]

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I love raping the hell out of the enemy at his only spawn point... especially when they start bitching and disconnecting, that makes it even more funny.

[tjr1973]

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As far as I'm concerned, if the teams have an equal amount of players there is no such thing as Base Raping. You're team got themselves into that position and will pay for it.

That being said, when my team does get all the flags I usually hang back and defend flags. My goal is to defend our flags and will pursue anything switched to nuetral.

I think people making up their own little rules to benefit themselves is far more lame than anything else in the game.

[Ghost-MOH-]

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And it all starts when masses of people wait at the main base for jets and choppers.

[Dangerdog]

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Raping on the aircraft carrier is lots of fun if you get in a good squad, all bases everywhere and anytime are fair game.

[=HzC=Heinz]

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of course base raping is lame, it's obvious. but don't expect the 80% of the tool-bag player base from BF2 to understand good sportsmanship. do what I do, find the right servers, and let the immature idiots just feed on themselves. :)

there are many servers with maturity, class, and good sportsmanship.

[rombaft]

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if every other flag is taken and the enemy can't take one flag, for example in gulf of oman, if the MEC only have there besa left and they don't do anything about it, I start to baserape, and most of the time it's tons of fun

[C11.Nemisis]

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on oman or other carrier maps its fair game to rape the carrier in my book, since they do nothing but rape the mec uncapble all during the game

[cavemanuk]

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Even tho I really detest maps with on both sides not having uncappable flags, like karkand.....And dont get me wrong my hours on karkand and sharqi are way more then on any other map and I don't dislike Karkand cus the map is awesome, but I prefer to play on a biased map where both teams have an uncappable flag.

Now my point is, when playing on a map like Gulf of Oman with uncappable flags, when one of the teams is really weak, alot of players on the other team tend to baserape the weak team. artillery is well the usual, but then there is basecamping tanks, overflying bomb dropping planes, chopper camping gits etc etc you name it it happens often enough.

What I don't get is, what is so much fun about easy kills?? I mean Just join the weak team and try to do some effort eh? I wanna hear your oppinions, is baseraping lame or what? Cus I know, it gets boring if everyone is waiting for a plane, so yeh then ya drop a bomb on their heads, but still....

your thoughts? :)

In the interest of fair gameplay, our server admins actively ban people who baserape.. Our general rule is that if you have no business in a base unless you are capturing it, defending it or are taking out enemy arty/uav etc.. We also frown upon artying if there is only one base left and it cant be taken.

We also insist that if a team has been forced back to a base thats not captureable(!) that they are given a fair chance to fight back..

So, if you disagree with our rules, can i just suggest you don't join our server! (Multiplay:: Computer World 85.236.101.39 port 16667)

We have created a nice family server and even have the new modmanager scripts to actively ban swear words, high pingers and neg scorers. Its nice to be able to go to a server thats not filled with morons abusing the game.

[SnuFFeh]

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In the interest of fair gameplay, our server admins actively ban people who baserape.. Our general rule is that if you have no business in a base unless you are capturing it, defending it or are taking out enemy arty/uav etc.. We also frown upon artying if there is only one base left and it cant be taken.

We also insist that if a team has been forced back to a base thats not captureable(!) that they are given a fair chance to fight back..

So, if you disagree with our rules, can i just suggest you don't join our server! (Multiplay:: Computer World 85.236.101.39 port 16667)

We have created a nice family server and even have the new modmanager scripts to actively ban swear words, high pingers and neg scorers. Its nice to be able to go to a server thats not filled with morons abusing the game.

Sounds absolutely whack tbh.

"We also insist that if a team has been forced back to a base thats not captureable(!) that they are given a fair chance to fight back.."

How does that work? You tell everyone to stop playing while the opposition can recap a flag or something? If not, I take it you ban them... How ***.

[bigbay82]

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Im in the game to battle it out, not pick off easy kills. I hate it when they have only one base left and the game gets over to fast. I like running around, blowing stuff up, and killing people. Just camping out in there base until the game is over is no fun and i dont do it.

[The_Misfit]

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I always punish on teamkill, cus I don't believe in accidents

the worst part about the authors post.... ugh.

[MichaelSword]

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As far as I'm concerned, if the teams have an equal amount of players there is no such thing as Base Raping. You're team got themselves into that position and will pay for it.

That being said, when my team does get all the flags I usually hang back and defend flags. My goal is to defend our flags and will pursue anything switched to nuetral.

I think people making up their own little rules to benefit themselves is far more lame than anything else in the game.

this pretty much sums up my belief on the matter, particularly the making up rules is the lamest of all part. when the game devolves into baseraping, does it suck (especially if you're the rapee)? hell yeah it does. nothing in more irritating then getting trapped on the aircraft carrier in Gulf of Oman while the other team lines up on the beach waiting to beat the crap out of the odd player who makes it ashore.

but honestly, what do you expect?

when someone on this thread said he banned people for not "giving the other team a chance", i agreed 100% with the guy who was like "so you do what? force everyone to pull back and let the other team get a few flag captures???" i place these self-imposed 'honor' rules in the same category as "oh I don't use the best weapons / techniques in the game because *i* think they're stupid/n00b/lame/whatever" yes, things like blackhawk whoring are pretty stupid, but people are going to use them whether you like it or not.

again, what do you want? if one team totally dominates the other, do you honestly expect them to give capture points BACK!?!!?!?? what, so they can just take them again? i can't believe some here who think that baseraping is a bannable offense. baseraping sucks, but enforcing crazy rulesets in an attempt to correct it is even sillier.

instead of trying to impose some sort of forced retreat on the winners, how about making a script such that once one team has totally pinned down the other for several minutes, it automatically ends that round. that would achieve a level reset while giving something to the winners (well, you'd probably want to give them some points too). i think that would be a great thing for EA & DICE to implement. that and fixing all the bugs...

[default]

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I usually play on a server where base raping is against the rules, just the untakable base, and no arty on the untakable base. I think this is fair, however if your the winning team, and you forced the enemy right back, all you have to do it hang back alittle bit from there base, then kill them! Then you arn't base raping. I don't agree with giving the enemy a chance by letting them cap a flag or something though.

[MackTheKnifeAU]

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There is only one map that really makes Spawn Rape really annoying, and waht a suprise it's one of the most hated maps (although not mine, I reserver that for Fu She or Kubra).

Operation Clean Sweep, where a MEC team will load first, fly over, steal USMC planes (or helos, or both), and proceed to spawn rape for however long the map goes for. Or they just take helo or boat over and do the same. It's hard enough for USMC to win that map without that sort of crap.

The rest of the maps don't really have a problem, kubra has one flag that can become absolte rapage if the MEC get down to that last flag (it's the flag on the right bottom of the map near the dam, or on the right if looking from MEC base), it's like a half built building with not much cover.

Sharqi can have the middle MEC uncappable hurt badly by a decent helo gunner, Strike could get dodgy if the MEC pushed forward and camped the spawns in force (like almost all their team, and the USMC could still spawn furthur back, and I've yet to see it happen anyway).

Dragon is usually free from this, apart from constant jet and helo attacks on the carrier (which is what the Ciws|Sea Sparrow is for), Mashtuur has the obvious blackhawke, Songhua is a double cappable, Dalin is way too open for spawn rapage.

Zatar is HUGE and has double uncappables, with good defenes, Daqaing suffers more from USMC failure to assault and take flags than spawn raping.

Oman would probably be the 2nd worst spawn rapage candidate, as the MEC can get badly camped, and the USMC, whilst they don't get Spawn Raped per se (unless the MEC get a large assault on to the carrier, they find it very hard to assault flags if they lose them all and fail to retake quickly.