I hope it will become impossible to cape flags with the BH

[glasseye]

Re: I hope it will become impossible to cape flags with the BH

how is that not teamwork?

its 6 ppl that would be doing the same thing no matter what. if that is teamwork then me drinking coke is me exhibiting teamwork w/ the ppl that make it.

no you cant.

i can and i do.

lol speed and manuverability second only to jets?
seems the attack helicopters forgot to show up the day you made that discovery.

oh wow, a vehicle that has less offensive and less defensive power can move just as fast.

Since it is is impossible for any vehical to have a wider range to cap a flag in, then again the whole second to jets bit has me worried, i assume you mean RATE. The capture rate of the flag would be the same regaurdless of the vehical the six people were in.

wrong. choppers have double the flag cap radius to ground vehilces.

thats it thats your big justification for a dumbass post. Try reading the whole post this time with your good eye. I explained both parts just below the sentence you got stuck on.

you cant do it can you? you post some gibberish and then insult me for not understanding what you are talking about.

again i say, the only ppl that say blackhawks are not unbalanced either liars or fools. which one are you?

[tjr1973]

Re: I hope it will become impossible to cape flags with the BH

So according to all you anti Blackhawk people, I'm either a noob, fool, liar, idiot or Blackhawk whore.

I can tell you I'm none of the above and have ridden in the Blackhawk approximately 15 minutes out of days of actual playtime. Like I said in a previous post, I prefer MEC. I just think you're making a huge deal out of something that isn't such a big deal. I like the game the way it is as well as a number of other people, but I can see that there is no arguing with you guys. So keep pissing and moaning about it on these forums and see what you get.

[A_Dirty_Hippie]

Re: I hope it will become impossible to cape flags with the BH

its 6 ppl that would be doing the same thing no matter what. if that is teamwork then me drinking coke is me exhibiting teamwork w/ the ppl that make it.

well that analogy sucks. The people who make coke would make it weather you drink it or not. If the blackhawk is missing the gunners or the engineers it is less effective. Thus teamwork IS required. every member of the BH squad must do thier job in order for the mission to be successful. Sounds like teamwork to me.

i can and i do.

just how are you able to garuntee that every bh I and everyone else has shot down is full of noobs.

oh wow, a vehicle that has less offensive and less defensive power can move just as fast.

which one do you think has less offensive and defensive power? The attack helies or the BH?

wrong. choppers have double the flag cap radius to ground vehilces.

Never seen this before link please

you cant do it can you? you post some gibberish and then insult me for not understanding what you are talking about.

Quote:

well where did the OP read that choppers wont be able to cap flags?

I dont remember that he said he did. In fact the title of this thread is "I Hope...." not they are. The funny thing is I have seen many people saying they will change the bh but everytime I ask where they got this info it seems strangely quite on the board. In fact your the only one i recall ever responding and yours dosnt answer the question but poses an irrelevant attempt at being cute. good job killer

lets see what part is gibberish.
you (---> glasseye) are the only one I (---->me) recall (remember) ever responding (replying), and yours (----->glasseye's post) dosent (dose not) answer (give the requested info) the question but (instead) poses (submits) an irrelevant (not haveing to do with the question) attempt (try) at being cute (funny, whitty).
If anyone else has a problem understanding what i am saying please let me know.

[Jeffrey_Dahmer]

Re: I hope it will become impossible to cape flags with the BH

And of course there's the recently discovered 'achiles wheel'...

You win the award for best use of the English Language today. Saavy, subtle, and clever. I salute you for it!

J.

[usiel]

Re: I hope the BlackHawks get nuclear weapons

ok if everybody that defends blackhawks is just going to post the same tired arguments over and over i will just reply to you as one.
okie dokie, here we go again. please try to pay attention and try to resist the urge the ask the same questions again.


1st excuse: its realistic.
reply: its not realistic. miniguns shoot fast, yes. miniguns however do not kill apcs in 3 seconds, nor do they have unlimited ammo. blackhawks cannot repair the damage done by a stinger in mid air, nor can they take a direct hit from a tank and continue flying. a realistic blackhawk would be able to be shot down w/ any of the assault weapons and they would not have bullet proof armour that can stop anything short of a .50.
BF2 is a game and an arcade FPS to boot...if someone is going to use the term realistic the game should hopefully have 'sim' somewhere in the title.


2nd excuse: it takes teamwork to use, it should take teamwork to shoot down.
reply: it does not take teamwork to use. it takes 6 ppl doing things but that is not the same as teamwork. one guy flies, 2 guys shoot anything that moves, engineers sit in the back pointing a wrench at the the deck and tape down the fire key.
wth? Takes all of those to maximize the effectiveness of a BH so isn't that teamwork... Most of the easy caps for BH is an unmanned base...contested bases are tough as you get 50 cals and AT'ers blasting away.


3rd excuse: i've taken them down before, you must suck if you cant.
reply: i never said they cant be taken down. its just that the effort required to take down a blackhawk is totally out of proportion to anything else in the game. i can guarantee that any blackhawk you shot down was crewed by idiots or newbies.
Well if its just you vs. a full BH yeah there won't be much you can do...same thing against if all five were on foot against you. I've played a ton and my BH time is minute but i've never had a problem with them unless its a map restart and my team is slow to get in, etc..

4th excuse: it is balanced, you want to make it unbalanced.
reply: its not balanced. it has what is arguably the most powerful guns in the game as well as speed and manoeuvrability second only to jets. it has the most armour in the game, more than a tank as well as the freedom to move in 3dimensions. it can cap a flag at twice the range that anybody on the ground can as well as capping flags regardless of anybody on the ground.
No game is perfectly balanced...but there is a enough variety and tactics to compensate. If you MEC on Mashtuur you know they are going to use the BH so outfit accordingly.


the bit i quoted? you know? i quoted it so you would know what im talking about, you still seem to be having trouble though.


iirc what i said was that anybody that doesnt think it is unbalanced is either a liar or a fool.

its easy to tell that most of you know they are unbalanced but dont care by the way you get so hostile when anybody suggest that everything is not right.

now be sure to ignore everything i just posted and respond w/ the same old arguments and insults.

I how someone can get frustrated with BHs...its a helpless feeling alone or with a couple of medics in a lone base as a fully crewed BH comes down...just hide and recap the flag when they leave. Isn't that *realism*?

[rombaft]

Re: I hope it will become impossible to cape flags with the BH

at some here

- 6 guys in a blackhawk , one flying, two shooting, two repairing ans one support, well this is teamwork in it highest meaning of the word.

- blackhawk best armored vehicle there is ?? LOL LOL LOL , when shooting at it with a machine gun, it melts!!

- taking down a blackhawk is impossible or only when it's filled with noobs?? LO LOL LOL
Take AT kit , when it's tail is at you, you shoot one rocket , then run to vehicle with machine gun and shoot it, first shot with AT makes the BH move to see what's happening and while he's doing then you shoot it, works 80% of the time and he is down


And as in my first post, I said, please make them impossible to cape flags, then they will whore flags, not taking a flag means there will still spawn people at the point and they all are going to get owned because they just won't understand a BH is actualy easy to take down

[rombaft]

Re: I hope it will become impossible to cape flags with the BH

forgot.

If you are with two , one AT and one in a vehicle the BH is down in 2 sec, this is also teamwork.

Others say it captures the flags to easy,
here is an idea
for example on mashtuur city, when I am on MEC side I always stay at first flag point with AT kit, because I know the BH is will come.
So I defend the point and if someone else is there, the BH will be down.

when it's down, most of the US team is gone and will be waiting at BH spawn point, very very easy for some other guys on your team to capture the US first flag point, no more BH

THIS IS ABSOLUTE TEAMWORK !!!!!


If they would make the BH suck and not able to cape flags anymore, and maybe nowbody wants to use it anymore, then youwould have everyone doing his thing and running around on the map where they think they should run, NO TEAMWORK AT ALL ANYMORE

[usiel]

Re: I hope it will become impossible to cape flags with the BH

at some here

- 6 guys in a blackhawk , one flying, two shooting, two repairing ans one support, well this is teamwork in it highest meaning of the word.

- blackhawk best armored vehicle there is ?? LOL LOL LOL , when shooting at it with a machine gun, it melts!!

- taking down a blackhawk is impossible or only when it's filled with noobs?? LO LOL LOL
Take AT kit , when it's tail is at you, you shoot one rocket , then run to vehicle with machine gun and shoot it, first shot with AT makes the BH move to see what's happening and while he's doing then you shoot it, works 80% of the time and he is down


And as in my first post, I said, please make them impossible to cape flags, then they will whore flags, not taking a flag means there will still spawn people at the point and they all are going to get owned because they just won't understand a BH is actualy easy to take down

actually you raise a good point...if they nerf BH capping it will end up up spawn camping and chewing up spawners...probaby get more points from driver assists then capping, heh.

[JIGA]

Re: I hope it will become impossible to cape flags with the BH

Quote:Originally Posted by JIGA
Can I get a link to this official word stated by EA/Dice...
well where did the OP read that choppers wont be able to cap flags?

OMG you are officially the dumbest idiot in this forum. Maybe if you would quote everything in my post instead of snippets here and there you would actually comprehend something. It actually helps to read the quote and post moron. Good god, just save yourself and quit replying to me.

Let me REPOST my POST that thad the quote in it so maybe it will spark one of the 2 brain cells you have left.

You guys that are saying it wont matter that the BH cant take flags are forgetting that your BH wont be as powerful either so you wont sit there mowing down MEC

Can I get a link to this official word stated by EA/Dice... :|:[b]

[SPARTACUS]

Re: I hope it will become impossible to cape flags with the BH

I hope that blackhawks will continue to be able to cap flags. I have gotten very good at shooting down BH's with my tank. 6 kills each time! If they take away this ability, blackhawks won't be dropping low enough to take up out with the 120mm in most cases.

[rombaft]

Re: I hope it will become impossible to cape flags with the BH

EA said :" we will change the way transport choppers work"

this is probably : "they won't be able tocape flags anymore"
but it's not shure they mean this, it could be that they still can cape flags, but just slower, it can mean many things.

They never said they would make the BH less powerfull

[A_Dirty_Hippie]

Re: I hope it will become impossible to cape flags with the BH

Hell all they said was tweak. thats about as conclusive as soon in ea terms.

[Wynterheart]

Re: I hope it will become impossible to cape flags with the BH

at some here

- 6 guys in a blackhawk , one flying, two shooting, two repairing ans one support, well this is teamwork in it highest meaning of the word.

- blackhawk best armored vehicle there is ?? LOL LOL LOL , when shooting at it with a machine gun, it melts!!

- taking down a blackhawk is impossible or only when it's filled with noobs?? LO LOL LOL
Take AT kit , when it's tail is at you, you shoot one rocket , then run to vehicle with machine gun and shoot it, first shot with AT makes the BH move to see what's happening and while he's doing then you shoot it, works 80% of the time and he is down


And as in my first post, I said, please make them impossible to cape flags, then they will whore flags, not taking a flag means there will still spawn people at the point and they all are going to get owned because they just won't understand a BH is actualy easy to take down

lol, yes, because there's always a vehicle there when you need it. wow, taking out a bh really has lots of situational requirements. you have to have soemone as at or be at yourself. you have to camp that flag, you have to have a vehicle actually spawned when the bh is there, you have to actually make it to the vehicle, you have to hope that another teammate or enemy doesn;t take that vehicle, you have to hope that the gunners don't detsroy the vehicle as they come in to prevent your idea from happening, you have to hope that no one in the bh sees you in the vehicle. one spray from that mini-gun and you're dead if you are in a jeep or van.

or they could make it a transport helo and not a flying fortress deathstar like it is now.

[usiel]

Re: I hope it will become impossible to cape flags with the BH

dude isn't that the same if there is a tank sitting there next to a flag and its just you?

I can see them tweaking it so it takes longer to cap a flag with a fully loaded BH...thats a compromise I could deal with.

[Deez]

Re: I hope it will become impossible to cape flags with the BH

I don't give a rats ass if you whiners get the BH nerfed so it can't cap flags. i'll just fly around in circles on your precious bases and mow down countles MECs and get just as many points as if I were flag hopping.

LOL, Very true, i like your idea. Long live the BH