DAO-12 or Jackhammer?

[Halfpast_Yellow]

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Come on that's an exaggeration. 2-3 rounds will always down someone at close range, and it's very easy to unload the whole thing very quickly. The pump actions are 8 pellets/25 damage each. The DAO is 8 pellets/12 damage each. 8x12 is 96 damage, and thats one round. Allowing for body armour, and a few missed pellets, 3 rounds should down anybody. Where the DAO is good is multiple closely packed enemies, because I click so fast with this thing I can unload 12 shells in the time a pump shotgun can take 2 shots.

For comparative purposes the Jackhammer does 8 pellets/15 damage. That means you only need to doubletap, not tripletap with the DAO. Potentially it can also one shot people as well. The trade off is less ammo and a different system of reloading.

This doesn't take into account that if you're hitting people in the head with the pellets, you're doing more damage.

[Jeff_Lebowski]

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Man, some of you guys want the sun and the moon from your unlocked weapon!

Speaking of shotguns, I was a MEC engineer, and commander, and found the stock shotgun, whatever it is, is pretty awesome for dispatching pesky spec ops guys. Fires really fast.

[hollowpoint367]

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Man, some of you guys want the sun and the moon from your unlocked weapon!

Speaking of shotguns, I was a MEC engineer, and commander, and found the stock shotgun, whatever it is, is pretty awesome for dispatching pesky spec ops guys. Fires really fast.

er, i expect shotguns to destroy people at close range, not give them an advantage.

i'm very lethal with all three engi shotties, so i was quite suprised to find how much weaker the DAO is. I guess it's balanced though, because it has 12 shots whereas 2/3 are pump and one is semi-auto with just over half of the shots a DAO has.

[Halfpast_Yellow]

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Heheh, the DAO-12 is the MEC engineer shotgun with 5 more shells. But, a slower reload. Which is only really a problem if you can't clean out the area with that extra ammo.

If you are lethal with the MEC shottie, the DAO should be great, thats something I can't understand. I can understand not liking it if you like the 2 pump action guns a lot. One shotting someone with those is pretty easy and feels good, where you might not feel that same power with the autos as you're forced to spend multiple shells to kill. The advantage is if you don't manage to one shot with the pumps, you're vulnerable, whereas the S12K and the DAO can expend a storm of lead very fast.

[hollowpoint367]

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Heheh, the DAO-12 is the MEC engineer shotgun with 5 more shells. But, a slower reload. Which is only really a problem if you can't clean out the area with that extra ammo.

If you are lethal with the MEC shottie, the DAO should be great, thats something I can't understand. I can understand not liking it if you like the 2 pump action guns a lot. One shotting someone with those is pretty easy and feels good, where you might not feel that same power with the autos as you're forced to spend multiple shells to kill. The advantage is if you don't manage to one shot with the pumps, you're vulnerable, whereas the S12K and the DAO can expend a storm of lead very fast.

it's funny cause a friend of mine also unlocked the DAO. last night we were playin Sharqi peninsula using AT, and either him or myself were always like "what the hell, come on!" At one point I asked him "what happened?" and he was like "I was point blank with the AT unlock and didn't kill this guy, instead he killed me" and I said "hahaha yeah dude the same thing happened to me too".

sweet story huh

[Halfpast_Yellow]

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But that doesn't show that the gun is terrible, just the player.

[TGL|Badlizzard]

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I unlocked the Jackhammer, love it, but I also really liked the MEC shotty over the pump shotties, so I guess it stands to reason.

The DAO is pretty brutal, but it is an "in your face" weapon, you have to be right on top of people to get the kill on them without burning a bunch of rounds.

One thing I like about the DAO is the partial reload feature, where if you shoot 3 rounds you can load 3 new shells in. So anytime you have a spare second you can load up your gun to 12 rounds and you don't waste any ammo.

[jrw2k]

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so far i got, medic, assault, spec ops... my next unlock will be the jackhammer.

[rombaft]

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the dao will be better but you look at it the wrong way, the upgrade from shotgun to jackhmer is way bigger then the upgrade from MP5 to DAO.

[Dloan]

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But that doesn't show that the gun is terrible, just the player.

Or the game . I've had numerous occasions where I shot someone with the DAO, saw them flinch but did not actually hit them. That's quite an impressive feat for a gun with the spread of the DAO at close range. Sometimes it was on friendlies that surprised me, which saved me from team damage, but it's funny to see them stand there and look at me as if to say "WTF! You just shot me and I'm undamaged!".

[swiss]

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My second unlock was the Jackhammer and i dont regret it, if u play engineer often then its a nice upgrade; at close range you should basically always beat ur opponent; and the reload is not nearly as long as the DAO. But you have to get good with the pistol for anything beyond close range.

[Halfpast_Yellow]

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Or the game . I've had numerous occasions where I shot someone with the DAO, saw them flinch but did not actually hit them. That's quite an impressive feat for a gun with the spread of the DAO at close range. Sometimes it was on friendlies that surprised me, which saved me from team damage, but it's funny to see them stand there and look at me as if to say "WTF! You just shot me and I'm undamaged!".

Sounds like a terrible ping issue. Also I'm sure there is a threshhold for teamdamage. I've got 700+ kills with shotguns and a positive K/D ratio with them, and well over 2/3rds of that is with the DAO-12. Simply it's probably the best close-combat weapon in BF2, playing one or two rounds with it won't give you much familiarity with it.

[imported_TheDragon]

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the weapon is not as important as the KIT you use
I drive armor all the time
so - duh - jack hammer
now I do not feel naked in a fist fight
actually get more kills than deaths out of the tank!

[MackTheKnifeAU]

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the dao will be better but you look at it the wrong way, the upgrade from shotgun to jackhmer is way bigger then the upgrade from MP5 to DAO.

Your kidding right?

Switching from MP5 to DAO gives you the ability to threaten anything except planes. If you get close to an enemy inf, it's almost always good night for them.

You can run through 4 players in seconds.

Can the Jackhammer do that? At most 2.

The mp5 can run through half a player in a full clip, and forget trying to kill other anti-tankers or assault, it's impossible.

I've found the normal engi shotguns to be good anyway, but I could'nt wait to toss the mp5\bison\chinese pea shooter.

And one more thing for people who can't kill with the DAO-12.

YOU DON'T SHOOT SINGLE SHOTS.

You tap that mouse button like a button tapping machine. You should expect to tap 4 times. The most important thing is getting into range, and knowing WHEN to use the DAO, and when to use the Pistol\AT Missile.

[vbl]

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I like the US and Chinese pump shotguns. They're absolutely amazing.