Limit Flag Capture Ability to Infantry

[Paas]

GREAT post!

Hope EA is listening in, this would make the dynamics of the game change in a pivotal manner. This is what infantry should be, the man on the ground making it happen!

I hope they are as well, cross your fingers? :hmm:

{WP}Paas

[rombaft]

the game is like this from BF1942 , and you guys want to change this ?? this is the absolute basic, and both teams can do it, so there is balance.

Also, if you squad sucks, this means you aren't going to get any points, now you can make up for it by doing thing on your own.

and more teamwork should prevent one guy taking a tank in your base and blowing the hel out of it.

Some people just don't understand the game I think

[glaeken]

The problem with not being able to cap flags when in vehicles is you hop out to cap the flag and the enemy then hops in to take the vehicle kill you and stop you taking the flag. I am really talking about APC's and Tanks on this.
I am sure many of us have had something like this happen anyway from time to time but forcing players to get out of a tank or APC to cap would just make it happen all the time or worse have the armor driver not bother capping the flag and just spawn camp.

I actually play AT class quite a bit and flag defending from armor is part of the job and how you can be most effective so I don't see this needs fixing anway.

Stopping capping from choppers I do agree with though as that ruins the flow of maps due to the speed they can move about at and the whole map descends into flag chasing.

[rombaft]

Ow, and all the guys saying that helicaptures should be deleted, well, wait untill they do that, then there will be 1000000 guys saying, man, that guy took my heli, this , that, bla bla bla, it's just part of the game and the balance is written on it, if they do that on some maps it will be impossible to maintain a good balence


take for example operation clean sweep , no shopper capturing flag, ok, it takes the US forces like 3min to get to another flag but the first one, the first one every enemy camps so difficult to capture and the enemy has all his power on land side.

Think before you write things like that, not only write it because your noob ass got ownd by some choppers

[glaeken]

Actually clean sweap will be much better because the combat will get focused rather than the Mec team flag chasing the whole round.

I am pretty sure clean sweap was designed as a supply line map as it just looks like the flags were made to be capped in order. A progressive fight up the length of the island will be much better than it is now. There will be more defense and more attempts to actually advance on the ground from both sides. Personally I preffer combat in my combat games so this is good to me.

[TheSmisker]

rombaft, what is your problem, ppl are thinking and advocating their ideas here. You dont like them? Dont read/post then.

We are fine with nothing happening but feel there is room for improvements. Obviously so does EA since they are releasing a meaty patch.

[Paas]

the game is like this from BF1942 , and you guys want to change this ?? this is the absolute basic, and both teams can do it, so there is balance.

Also, if you squad sucks, this means you aren't going to get any points, now you can make up for it by doing thing on your own.

and more teamwork should prevent one guy taking a tank in your base and blowing the hel out of it.

Some people just don't understand the game I think

Damn, not only was this not helpfull, BUT! You didn't make much sense either.

But! I'll try to respond to what I think you're saying:

1. It has been like this, just leave the game alone and don't suggest anything else!

R. Um, no... Yeah. It has been this way, but, frankly, my idea would lend a new element to squad based gaming that BF2 is lacking. And, you really can't compare BF1942 to BF2 because BF1942 did not have such a complex and readily availble squad system.

2. More teamwork does somthing...

R. Don't know what in god's name you're talking about bro'. Rephrase?

3. If vehicles can't cap flags, then how and I gunna' counteract the suck that is my team!?

R. Easy, join squads and work as a unit.

I hope this answered some of your questions, or gave you at least an alternate perspective. If not, oh well. And thanks for the Input?

{WP}Paas

[Paas]

Ow, and all the guys saying that helicaptures should be deleted, well, wait untill they do that, then there will be 1000000 guys saying, man, that guy took my heli, this , that, bla bla bla, it's just part of the game and the balance is written on it, if they do that on some maps it will be impossible to maintain a good balence


take for example operation clean sweep , no shopper capturing flag, ok, it takes the US forces like 3min to get to another flag but the first one, the first one every enemy camps so difficult to capture and the enemy has all his power on land side.

Think before you write things like that, not only write it because your noob ass got ownd by some choppers

You're a waste of life.

...not only did you not comprehend what was said here, but then you acted on your lack of comprehension and formulated stupidty. AMAZING! (And I could have SWORN I said don't reply if you're going to mention ANYTHING about newbies).

Do me a favor. Climb back into your mothers womb and ask God for a do-over...

{WP}Paas

P.S. - ...in case ya' didn't know bright one. I'm suggesting vehicles not be able to cap flags, not the removal of vehicles. Jeebus'.. some people.

And your Operating Clean Sweep theory is flawed. The US team can STILL fly a blackhawk over to the Enemy Flag, but, with my modifications, his passangers will have to leave the chopper to take the flag then climb back in to head to another location; makes perfect sense.

[imported_WarGasm]

Amen Pass, and to rom, your an idiot, now go play nice else I'll take your lunch money again.

[bewley]

Very nice idea. I really like the thought of giving assistance points to those in nearby vehicles. It should be a requirement to have at least one foot soldier to capture a flag. The speed of the capture should be determined by number of infantry soldiers in the area, and soldiers in vehicles shouldn't influence this. Their assistance consists of keeping the area covered.

[JoeHova]

GREAT post!

Hope EA is listening in, this would make the dynamics of the game change in a pivotal manner. This is what infantry should be, the man on the ground making it happen!

I agreee too. Get a full helo BH on Mashtur and Shonghua and the game is close to over. I totally agree with having to get out of the helo to cap a flag.

In fact, I bet it's coming. I saw a group of clanners practicing that last night. Instead of just capping the flag by hovering over it, the pilot would land close by, everyone would jump out and cap the flag, the pilot would take the gun as cover. It was still very effective.

Don't get me wrong I like the points and all it just seems cheap to be able to do that.

[glaeken]

Yeah I like the idea of infantry having to get out of the Blackhawk’s to cap. This will give the guys defending a chance to actually hold the flag. It will work out giving both sides more action.

At the moment you get a couple of engineers fixing the Blackhawk and I tend to feel its not worth even shooting anything at it as all you are doing is wasting your valuable ammo and enabling the on board engineers to score more points.

[Paas]

Feel good to know at least a decent amount of individuals support my idea; truely hope EA is listening though (Even if it's just the Janitor at their corporate offices) so it gets into their ranks and influences someone.

{WP}Paas

[Solar71]

I completely agree...

No capping inside any vehicle... whatsoever...
This would make the game SOOOoooooo much better!!!

[notbob]

This will be the first time since battlefield started that they may change something like this.
I am guess it will be some kind of slow down, or only the pilot captures the flag in a helicopter full of people.


Star Wars Battlefront never allowed people in vehicles to capture flag points.