Current Iraq war mod?

[imported_Spork]

France 1944 FREE!

Only to prevent it from becoming a communist satellite!

Iraq 2003 FREE!

Apart from the fact that the country is completely unstable and if the armed forces left the entire country would disintergrate.

Germany 1945 FREE!

So dividing up a nation into four parts and taking over their government is apparently freedom. Good one.

Afghanistan 2001 FREE

AND ALSO RUN BY WARLORDS!

Japan 1945 FREE!

Not like you had a choice.

Slight flaw with the 'yet to be liberated' ones though, they have armies and are on the verge of nuclear capability. Good luck with that.

Christ almighty get your facts straight before posting a load of BS. Oh, and I notice you've missed out several parts of Africa - but I guess they're too low on your agenda.

[big_sammy_b]

dont forget, they gave us that big statue
as said before, no one gives a rats ass what you think, cause well you wouldnt liberate a country if the devil himself took over it.



And of course, my great thanks to the French for hijacking my thread. GTFO NOW

Its exaclty posts like that that destroy your already weak argument completely just like a earlier poster you have just owned yourself, next please.

By the way in case its in any doubt i'm actually English.

[imported_Spork]

VIETNAM AND KOREA

FAILED!

Etc.

[imported_Animalmother]

France 1944 FREE!

Only to prevent it from becoming a communist satellite!

Iraq 2003 FREE!

Apart from the fact that the country is completely unstable and if the armed forces left the entire country would disintergrate.

Germany 1945 FREE!

So dividing up a nation into four parts and taking over their government is apparently freedom. Good one.

Afghanistan 2001 FREE

AND ALSO RUN BY WARLORDS!

Japan 1945 FREE!

Not like you had a choice.

Slight flaw with the 'yet to be liberated' ones though, they have armies and are on the verge of nuclear capability. Good luck with that.

Christ almighty get your facts straight before posting a load of BS. Oh, and I notice you've missed out several parts of Africa - but I guess they're too low on your agenda.

ROFL its a joke, stay on topic! 3 pgs of political bs in the GENERAL BF2 FORUM IS NOT GOOD.

[imported_Spork]

That image isn't meant to be a joke. It's used to put a weak point across in forums.

All my 'political BS' has just been setting the record straight. The mod idea, as I stated earlier insn't a great idea. Urban guerilla warfare is impossible to simulate in an arcade game.

[imported_Animalmother]

That image isn't meant to be a joke. It's used to put a weak point across in forums.

All my 'political BS' has just been setting the record straight. The mod idea, as I stated earlier insn't a great idea. Urban guerilla warfare is impossible to simulate in an arcade game.

nooo, if I wanted to have a political arguement, I definitely would, and also I dont like to look like much of a loser in the arguements . This is just the wrong place, really the worst place, a gaming forum, seriously, dont start political arguements in a forum about a game. You know they have special forums just for that on the internet. http://www.pbnation.com/forumdisplay.php?f=307
or here if you wanna commit suicide

http://black-chapter.com/forums/index.php?topic=88.0

so, take arguements there. As for the mod, it doesnt need to simulate what goes on over there, just bring it closer than what BF2 does. It can be what we have now, but with invisible IEDs, jihadists instead of an MEC army, all the maps take place in urban Iraq, Fallujah, Baghdad etc, Mashtuur city would be a good map, make it a lil more yellow and call it East Baghdad city or something. They can be fictional events, we need some suicide vests, carbombs, stuff like that. The jihadists dont have tanks, APCs, or Su 34s. They can get around in pickup trucks like in DCR. The jihadists would get a reeeeeaally small penalty for TKing. We dont need any of this recruiting or driving american forces out bs, its just for fun and doesnt need to be 100% perfect to whats going on over there.

[=[AOD]=Ken]

North Korea, China and Iran are your enemies, not Europe's. Why should we help you in matters that don't concern us?

If the US didn't fight in a war or give aid for two centuries (lets make it one century, your grasp on history must be a little sketchy), then the USA would lose. Why do you think Americans became involved in WW1 and WW2? Because the victor in Europe would be able to compete with America in a very real sense - a consolidated Europe run by a cruel dictatorship would be immensely rich.

Thankfully, you don't speak for your nation.

So you think that if it doesn’t concern your county directly, you just say hands off?
Nice character.
Also you think that if these counties go unchecked you will never have a problem with them? Dream on.

Ok. if you want I’ll go check the history books…..no, I don’t need to.
Just get your head out of the “newspaper headlines”

Yeah, we took to long to get involved in WWI & WWII and that’s exactly why we are taking preemptive action now. Seems like we’re dammed if we do and dammed if we don’t.

So you think the only reason we went to war in Europe was for the money…. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Like you’re the official speaker for your country….. :laugh:

But yeah my thoughts are among the majority in the US.

P.S. sorry if this got totally off topic…just gets me mad to see so many ignorant people bashing my country…while they sit on their hands…

[sturmvogel]

dont forget, they gave us that big statue
as said before, no one gives a rats ass what you think, cause well you wouldnt liberate a country if the devil himself took over it.



And of course, my great thanks to the French for hijacking my thread. GTFO NOW

OH jesus CHRIST! This is the most redneck thing I've ever seen. Why don't you just post a collage with a picture of the World Trade center emblazed with a crying eagle and the words 'NEVER FORGET DALE EARNHEART!' You people are the ones that give Americans a bad name. 'HURRRR FREEDUM FRIEZZZZZ!!!'

Oh and by the way its been mentioned already, the French saved our asses back in the Revolutionary War. We WOUDLD NOT have won without them. Then we (read: United States, UK, Canada) saved France back in '44, so I'd say the debt was repaid. Oh and we didn't 'save' France because we're the greatest people in the world but because it was the most logical way to proceed into Germany, a means to an end. I don't know why these rednecks are so against France, 'OH NO THEY DIDN'T SUPPORT US IN THE IRAQ WAR! HOW DARE THEY!' Christ, its not like they're a SOVEREIGN state or anything, they can do what they damn well please. As much as the rednecks would hate to admit it the French (and the rest of the wold for that matter) were right about Iraq. WMD anyone?

[imported_Spork]

So you think that if it doesn’t concern your county directly, you just say hands off?
Nice character.
Also you think that if these counties go unchecked you will never have a problem with them? Dream on.

Ok. if you want I’ll go check the history books…..no, I don’t need to.
Just get your head out of the “newspaper headlines”

Yeah, we took to long to get involved in WWI & WWII and that’s exactly why we are taking preemptive action now. Seems like we’re dammed if we do and dammed if we don’t.

So you think the only reason we went to war in Europe was for the money…. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Like you’re the official speaker for your country….. :laugh:

But yeah my thoughts are among the majority in the US.

P.S. sorry if this got totally off topic…just gets me mad to see so many ignorant people bashing my country…while they sit on their hands…

Money is everything. Money is food. Money is arms. Money is nuclear weapons. Money is influence. Money is power. Money, as the saying goes, makes the world go round.

You're the fool. Imagine a communist Russia with Western Europe under its control. Or a Germany with Russia and Europe. Can you imagine its industrial output compated the USA's? Probably not, but I can.

As for taking action - well, good luck. You can't beat them with conventional weapons once they have nuclear warheads, in fact, they're untouchable.

Ignorant? No, just realistic. And for your information, my opinions are founded from the writings of educated men.

You should also know that Britain has deployed its armed forces in Iraq right now. The're there, I don't like the situation, but they're there - so I believe your last point is stagnant.

[imported_Animalmother]

ALL FRENCHIES GTFO NOW!!!!

SERIOUSLY, you guys have no idea how dumb you are!! No one GIVES A RATS ASS WHAT YOU THINK, just because you say what you think doesnt hurt us americans, it just makes you look like such jackasses. I mean, here I am starting a thread about an iraq war mod, and you little pricks see the word IRAQ and WAR, go change your pants, then get on here and start spreading liberal **** until every single one of us has turned into one of you, which will never happen. Why? Why must you hijack my thread into a liberal propaganda machine? Does it make you feel better? What the **** do you wish to accomplish? Have they brainwashed your tiny little brains of mush to spread the word? You know, it really bugs me you guys first of all wish to start a totally off topic arguement in probably the worst forum to do so in the world, you hijack my thread, then now that you have this big arguement going,
YOU DONT HAVE A ****ING CLUE ABOUT WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT.
Ive given you the sites to funnel your ******** into, now do it and please stay the **** out of this thread.

[=[AOD]=Ken]

Like I said ignorant.

And oh yeah the P.S. about sitting on your hands was just a general statement. Not against the Brits.


And this is for sturmvogel: yup red necked and proud of it…its called a tan, something that happens when you go out side in the sun…..

[imported_Pharacon]

ok i have to pitch i have tried to resist but i must....

The French with their "Culture" are getting overrun within their own borders by Muslims, did you guys see the headlines when the muslim students ran amok in paris and beat the **** out of the "gaul's"? When asked why they where doing it they replied, because the gauls dont fight back.... Yeah doing nothing against animals really solves the problem.

As for people saying we invaded iraq and then overstayed our welcome....
We invaded Iraq for two reasons... Iraq was working on WMD (they are now in Syria or Iran more then likely) we have found evidence of it going on. Also to free the Kurds and other peoples that where gettings slaughtered wholesale by Saddam (dont believe me wait till the iraq's try him!) As for over staying our welcome... the Iraq Government asked us to stay and help, which we will and then help them rebuild so they can become preductive and live the way they want.

As for insurgents, i got some great pics about how GREAT THEY ARE.. but if i where to post a link i would get permabanned with a quickness. If you do not know what i'm talking about do a search, these "glorious" "insurgents" (who happen to come from other countrys) have recently kidnapped about a 100 people and tortured them to dead, beheaded them, cut their tongues and eyes out and all sorts of disgusing things. Then on top of it they post pictures of it on the web, i really enjoy the ones where the father is holding his baby's head (that was cut off) and crying... you people that kidnapp random people and rape and murder them, kids women, old people.. yeah they are right we should just pull out let bygones be bygones.... we can then sit and wait for the hordes to come knocking at our doorstep... or we can do something about and help our fellow man. It better to regret things that you have done then things you failed to do

Yeah America is bad we are soooooo bad. I vote we pull an Atlas Shrugged.. we pull out, defend our self, and let the world goto hell. If our allies need help we can do it. But for the rest of the cultured world, lets them run their corrupt UN without us... can you say oil for food?

[imported_Spork]

Ken - Please, enlighten me on my ignorance, otherwise your argument makes no sense.

Pharacon - The USA is not in North Korea, Zimbabwe or - to go extremes - China. Whilst I can understand the removal of Saddam's dictatorial regime is a good thing, what has replaced it? Aid does not reach people fast enough, the country is not stable, and crime is sky-high. If you have any evidence of WMD, please share it - aside from those bodged up photographs shown to the UN.

The USA's interference in global politics in the name of 'freedom' is self-evident. It's happened before in Vietnam and Korea, so now in Iraq. I don't disagree with securing the oil fields in all honesty - but saying this is all some great effort to liberate the masses is absolutely a load of bollocks.

AnimalMother - There are French in this thread? The French have a beautiful culture. So what if they're not an overly militaristic nation? Christ, there is something to life past war. By shouting all this provocative bollocks their way, you're just displaying the fact that you're little more than a caveman.

Interesting fact: The French Foreign legion's assault course, set in the Moroccan desert, is famed for its incredible difficulty. The French Foreign Legion's record is thirty minutes - visiting US marines passed it in over seven hours.

No nation is perfect guys, and military intervention happens for a reason - to benefit the nations self-interest.

[Stalingraduate]

VIETNAM AND KOREA

The US didn't lose in Korea. There was an armistice.

As for Vietnam, the US lost politically (and perhaps, some would say morally), but it didn't lose militarily. It won all of the major military battles in Vietnam.

WMD anyone?

Coalition forces did find stockpiles of Ricin, which is a chemical weapon. Last I checked, chemical weapons (along with nuclear and biological weaponry) were included in the list of WMDs. Were any ICBMs found? No, they weren't--however, no one stated what sort of WMDs were there, nor which ones would be confiscated.

In regards to countries such as France, Germany and Russia, yes, they were free to make up their own minds and not support the entrance into Iraq. However, they did it not because they believed Iraq lacked WMDs or that the plan was fool-hardy. They attempted to block the US, UK, and other Coalition nations because they had investments and oil deals with Iraq. They also opposed the United States (and to a lesser degree, the United Kingdom for standing with the US) in an effort to assert their power and in France and Germany, required anti-American sentiment in order for their leaders to get reelected.

While we're on the French, they assisted the colonies in the Revolutionary War not because they believed in the cause, or liked the soon-to-be United States, but because the act would "stick it" to England. Likewise, the Allies in WWII (which included the United States, which made a substantial effort in turning the tide of the war; however, without the likes of the UK and the USSR, the war would've been lost before the US entered into it) liberated France to gain a better vantage point to attack Germany. It really had very little to do with being nice--it was a strategic maneuver.

That's all I really have to say on the matter. Oh, and just for a reference point, I am an American. :)

[imported_Spork]

Stalingraduate, that wasn't my point. The US messed up people's lives in both conflicts for their own agenda, not to mention the US soldiers who served in both wars.

You can't honestly tell me the USA went into Vietnam and Korea with any OTHER purpose than to stop communism.