CoD4 is gonna kill BF2142 and BF2. Big time.

[TheLeper]

battlefield has a unique team/squad dynamic that other games have issues with

quake wars would be better if they cloned the team/squad system

cod4 looks really good but till we get some identifier on how multiplayer will play/work its an unknown and battlefield will always have players, some of us may be able to enjoy it more when the hacks switch to a new game lol

[nemes1s3000]

I like my FPS games to have vehicles in them, so COD4 fails right there and then, infantry combat game? sure, it's good for that, but even that gets boring quite quickly.

[tonks950]

I liked the look of cod4 and the weapons and penetration of material and all that. What caught me is that in a video interview the guy talked about how unrealistic it is, just in terms of guns, recoil and whatnot.

Now I know 2142 isn't going to win the the most realistic game of the year award but in an fps I like to think that there's at least a touch of realism. Its mainly why I didn't enjoy qw, its just not my style of play.

[haslo]

Gratz for owning with cheats in CoD4...

[Yukiism]

Lulz. I think i've heard that before with the ET:QW hype.

Yeah, ET:QW sucked...Also too many people will miss the jets and go back the BF2. I still think CoD4 is just a upgraded BF2, or actually downgraded because you have no vehicles. Also CoD4 makes me sick with all that motion shizzle.

[Vreki]

Why is it that your are comparing a heavily scripted single player game with a multiplayer game?

The COD4 demo is great fun, but in the multiplayer part those scripted bots that makes it so good will be replaced by the same smacktards you are complaining about in BF2142.

At least wait with your proclamations until you have actually played the game.

[looqas]

Bullet penetration model will lead to very high payoff for using cheats. That's what I think. In bf2142 cheaters never really bothered me because the advantage they enjoy is not too great with all the 2142 enemy detection systems in place.

[iQue]

BF will never die. Possibly in a few years if there isn't going to be a BF3 but you kinda get the point. Personally BF has the exact right mix of gameplay other games lack. Heck, I don't really like FPS games at all but BF sure has something special.

We've heard you're sick of BF DutchDude, quit the whining. Go to Total Cod4 instead.

[imported_Spuddy]

CoD4 plays very much like CoD2, it actually just feels just like a mod for it. Haven't played the MP side of CoD4, but at a guess it's near enough the same as CoD2 MP and to be honest that's not really your Battlefield player, it's closer to your Quake/UT kind of player. :ar15: :nerr:

A diagram to illustrate... :nod:

|Battlefield Series|Something else, not yet filled series|CoD Series|Quake/UT Series|

I'd hazard a guess that's it's affect on the Battlefield series will be minimal, it may draw some Quake/UT players in, but will have the biggest impact on CoD2, near enough wiping it out. :salute:

However, this all may take a little time as I was checking prices and getting close to the £30 mark here in the UK was quite common for CoD4, £30... :shock: :laugh:

[THEONEANDONLY]

You might be right but there is always something better in this world and COD4 will have a predecessor and so on but im lookin at quake wars looks good :)

[HTE1]

Hmmm oh DutchDude and his witty ramblings.

I'm going to refer you to the great Frasier Crane:

Frasier: [after a beat] Dutchdude, at Cornell University they have an incredible piece of scientific equipment known as the tunneling electron microscope. Now, this microscope is so powerful that by firing electrons you can actually see images of the atom, the infinitesimally minute building blocks of our universe.
DutchDude, if I were using that microscope right now... I still
wouldn't be able to locate my interest in your constant bleating. Thank you for your post.

[DutchDude]

by your description of being owned all the time tells me that your a crap player.. why bother with bf game if your so ****e?

BF2 and BF2142 will not last forever and we know it... COD4 is a great game.. some will like it some will not but if you seriously think that you wont get your bunny hopper, nade spammers and nade launch-spammers in COD4 your very much mistaken.... name me a FPS online game where there is no part of the game is used to excess to aid you and help you get more kills..

who knows whats around the corner... BF2142 today.. COD4 tomorrow.. maybe BF3 the next day... things move on so dont get on your high horse about another game killing BF2142 because we all know it will happen sooner or later..

I don't suck. Watch my vids if you want to see how I play. My clan is gonna move on to CoD4, and if we see someone bunnyhopping, nadespamming, and nade launch spamming 24/7 we'll kick him. Nades might be there to help you but that does not mean you should whore the things like no tomorrow.

And BF3 is a BIG no-no for me, seeing as EA has the habit to screw their games up and to dump support after they aren't making lots of money on the game anymore.

Bullet penetration model will lead to very high payoff for using cheats. That's what I think. In bf2142 cheaters never really bothered me because the advantage they enjoy is not too great with all the 2142 enemy detection systems in place.

I've seen loads of hackers in 2142, and I'm amazed that they didn't bother you too much. Hackers can go 90-0 if they want (most of the time they don't as they are downright stupid). I do agree with you on the bullet penetration thing: a hacker is seriously gonna ruin the game. However, when I see some guy go 40-0 and all he does is spray at walls, he'll get a ban. A well adminned server has no fear of hackers. Sure, they're annoying for 2-3 minutes but after an admin hands out a ban you'll never see them again.

Why is it that your are comparing a heavily scripted single player game with a multiplayer game?

The COD4 demo is great fun, but in the multiplayer part those scripted bots that makes it so good will be replaced by the same smacktards you are complaining about in BF2142.

At least wait with your proclamations until you have actually played the game.

I've seen plenty of vids of the Xbox online beta (friend of mine had the beta so I've seen more then enough MP action in it). What I like about CoD4 online is that the smacktards will get their asses whooped. In bf there are plenty of ways to act like a lame point whoring idiot (crouch spamming for instance). Crouch spammers in CoD4 will get their asses owned by the bullet penetration system. Same goes for campers. Everyone has one mere grenade which cannot be resupplied. In bf2(142), everyone has 3-5 grenades, which are all resupplyable. In CoD4, nades can be thrown back to the enemy. The CoD4 perk system is very well balanced, while the bf kit system isn't balanced (although I admit that 2142 did a better job then 2). CoD4 allows you to customice almost everything. 2142 has the same system, but most of the unlocks are obsolete, and others are almost a necessity if you want to survive. Of course, CoD4 will have stupid morons with no life who think it's lovely to just spawn, spam ,spawn, spam. But these individuals will probably get asskicked as the regular nub tactics don't work anymore.

I like my FPS games to have vehicles in them, so COD4 fails right there and then, infantry combat game? sure, it's good for that, but even that gets boring quite quickly.

Yeah, CoD4 isn't anything for you if you like vehicles. I personally hate them, and I love the fast paced fights that you see in infantry combat. And with all the customization, perks etc. etc. the infantry combat won't become boring for a long while, I think.

[-Spartan`II7^]

It's been a long while since I played 2142. But I did it again last week, only to be HORRIBLY disappointed. After 5 months of not-playing, I still was the Clark king of Holland. Mkay. PK rockets were even more spammed then before. Mkay. Game could be called KrylovField2142, as that gun still is overpowered like I don't know what. Mkay. Patch still isn't out yet. Mkay....

I then proceeded to start up Bf2. I join a random Sharqi server (inf only, no need to have some noob in a helo go 70-1). I see an enemy, open fire with the M16. He turns around, makes a looping, poops out three nades in 3 seconds and I die. Repeat that 20 times, and you've got some sort of a summary about the rest of this "game" (seeing as it is frustrating as hell to get killed by the same black colored tennisball over and over and over and over again.. boring).
Next round: <b>Karkand.</B>
Game starts, Sergeant TehDutchDude charges Karkand, only to hear some sort of a hardcore remix of explosions. BOOM BOOM BOOM BADDABOOM. Mkay.

Sounds like you got owned :)

[The_Eliminator]

Finally.. Yes, COD4 SUCKS ***.

Nuff said.

UT3 might pose some threat, but its not the same style of game.

Oh, and you played SP demo, yeah suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuureeeee, you had fun with bots.

i didnt enjoy the SP demo because thats what it was, SP, i would have bought the game had i played a MP demo.

ET:QW's and TF2 have killed BF2142 for me. I wont even bother downloading the patch 1.4 WHEN its released early september.

[xslaneyx]

et.qw is toilet.... il sell my copy to anyone who wants it:laugh:

i paid £29.99 for it and have played it twice. worst buy ever

tenner anyone? :laugh: