Whats up with all the recons?

[iQue]

Re: Whats up with all the recons?

well if i'm recon the half of my kills are from explosives but i dont use them agresevily but as self defence.

Same here. Place APM's around corners and some RDX on a flag, go snipe from a tower and boom 10 kill streak with no effort

Snipers have a place in a squad if they're good though... Usually snipers run away and do something else when in a squad tho. It's a shame.

[FURRY BIRD]

Re: Whats up with all the recons?

That's my favorite kit as I love lone wolf and sniping the crap out of people, but you are pretty vulnerable,so you compensate by learning to snipe at really long distances and avoiding UAV's is the best way to survive, and don't hide where every one else does.

[w3rd511]

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No ways, Recon and Support (with the gaydar unlock) is the best classes to cause destruction!

[Twizzz]

Re: Whats up with all the recons?

Recons roll as a defensive player is under appreciated. Playing defense as a whole is under appreciated.
There's been many-a-round that defending a single flag or silo has been pivotal in the out-come of the round.

One of my more memorable rounds was taking on and defending, a silo single handedly as a recon against a clan-stacked team. It's the same match in which I got my Recon Gold badge.:thumbsup: I know I had to have been pissing them off to no-end too, which kinda made it that much more rewarding.

[DesmondLocke]

Re: Whats up with all the recons?

Recons roll as a defensive player is under appreciated. Playing defense as a whole is under appreciated.
There's been many-a-round that defending a single flag or silo has been pivotal in the out-come of the round.
One of my more memorable rounds was taking on and defending, a silo single handedly as a recon against a clan-stacked team. It's the same match in which I got my Recon Gold badge.:thumbsup: I know I had to have been pissing them off to no-end too, which kinda made it that much more rewarding.

And one of my best rounds was playing support next to a guy doing exactly what you did. It was on Shuhia Tabia at silo 4. We covered different angles from on top the buildings. He had unlimited RDX for the armor, and unlimited APMs and rifle shots for infantry. And I had my Ganz, RDX shotgun, and EMP grenades. That was never capped by the enemy once in the game even though they came in and tried many times. Unfortunately our team lost the round :cry:.

[dd64]

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seriously, it seems like every server I get on in the past few weeks, I'm on the team that's 80-90% recon...

Now, I'm not trying to diss people who play recon, but as I mostly play city maps, I can find no valid tactical reason for 12/16 people to be recon, and not surprisingly, the team almost always loses. There are some darn good recon players out there, but even they know when to give it up, or at least pick up a med kit to rez the 4 guys who just got nade spammed...

anway, that's my thoughts, what gives?

they all find recon fun, and it is to be honest, with its sniping and rdx

[BandoIruka]

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Nice going to revive an old thread. But like all the other 3 classes, Recon's true potential for team contribution is when (surprise, surprise) teamwork is involved. To say that a recon kit as a whole is usless is a pretty dumb statement. Its like saying that assault kits is usless because all the pub players never revive me.

[ZinZ]

Re: Whats up with all the recons?

Nice going to revive an old thread. But like all the other 3 classes, Recon's true potential for team contribution is when (surprise, surprise) teamwork is involved. To say that a recon kit as a whole is usless is a pretty dumb statement. Its like saying that assault kits is usless because all the pub players never revive me.

I never said it was useless, I said it's not as useful as the other kits. For instance Engineers take out vehicles most of the time better than recons do (especially when good drivers are in the vehicles) 9/10 times when I play, I see a foolish sniper or the like go up to a walker, without any attempt to sneak up to it and try to drop demo paks on the middle part. This usually results to them falling back on the ground at his feet. Then when the walker realizes this, he usually just moves away and crushes or guns down the poor little recon. On Titan mode sure, recon is useful only if the player is good though. Yeah they can take out consoles better, but does that mean they'll kill everyone else nearby in the process? Usually, in FF=ON titan they do just that. Even more so in the control (core) room. And in FF=OFF they usually don't even go near the consoles, they just go and RDX people on the roof.

[Gun-Slinger]

Re: Whats up with all the recons?

I never said it was useless, I said it's not as useful as the other kits. For instance Engineers take out vehicles most of the time better than recons do (especially when good drivers are in the vehicles) 9/10 times when I play, I see a foolish sniper or the like go up to a walker, without any attempt to sneak up to it and try to drop demo paks on the middle part. This usually results to them falling back on the ground at his feet. Then when the walker realizes this, he usually just moves away and crushes or guns down the poor little recon. On Titan mode sure, recon is useful only if the player is good though. Yeah they can take out consoles better, but does that mean they'll kill everyone else nearby in the process? Usually, in FF=ON titan they do just that. Even more so in the control (core) room. And in FF=OFF they usually don't even go near the consoles, they just go and RDX people on the roof.

So what do you suggest to blow consoles and core?

[sempf]

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just stay on the ground and have all the silos. that will blow their titan as fast or even faster.

[Gun-Slinger]

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Might as well play conquest.

[BandoIruka]

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Then you underestimate the value of the surprise and disruption they can cause by setting explosive traps or by firing upon enemies from afar and unseen. Or how they can be afforded a certain amount of stealth to move around and attack enemies from unexpected locations. Or if a small group of them can sneak past the enemy frontline and neutralise a flag in the back, the distraction can cause the front to crumble and turn the tide for the attackers.

Ideally that is how a good recons should operate. Pity reality doesn't reflect the same image.

[<TB>asain]

Re: Whats up with all the recons?

I agree, the recons are the best class to sneak behind enemy lines.
The reason this doesn`t happen often is cause people rather drive a car than walking all the way. If it is inf only it rarely happens cause there are many bad recon players or just very few of them.

A possible scenario could be a recon as a squadleader and when he have passed the first flag then his squadmembers could spawn on him.

[DesmondLocke]

Re: Whats up with all the recons?

I agree, the recons are the best class to sneak behind enemy lines.

Along those thoughts.....does anyone know if the recons are invisible to the sat-track like the spec-ops were in BF2? Or is that something else that got nerfed in the transition?

[sempf]

Re: Whats up with all the recons?

they have the ghost that makes them invisseble for any type of radar.