Roof Camping? Yes or No

[RangerXML]

I was just about to say, anyone ever see Full Metal Jacket at the end with the sniper in the building taking down leads. Yeah, nobody ever shoots you from above, no real advantage there and nothing to do with real life (sarcasm). Theres a reason you take hills in war and theres a reason it is a legit way of fighting in game.

"Yes, you up there with the AK! All the doors and windows on that building are sealed and we haven't figured out your trick yet to get up there, so could you please come down...or...or we'll kick you out of this war. That so unfair, don't shoot him! You just killed Kenny, you *****!"

[Digital-Boy]

I was just about to say, anyone ever see Full Metal Jacket at the end with the sniper in the building taking down leads. Yeah, nobody ever shoots you from above, no real advantage there and nothing to do with real life (sarcasm). Theres a reason you take hills in war and theres a reason it is a legit way of fighting in game.

"Yes, you up there with the AK! All the doors and windows on that building are sealed and we haven't figured out your trick yet to get up there, so could you please come down...or...or we'll kick you out of this war. That so unfair, don't shoot him! You just killed Kenny, you *****!"

Yeah, they were also able to capture the sniper (i.e. reach her position) without having to place a spawn beacon, suicide, and respawn. What was your point again?

[Erhardt]

I have no problem with rooftopping, myself (I've never done it, but I don't have a problem with it), but it would be nice if DICE had, or would in the future, put stairs or a fire escape or something that could get you up to the roof.

Aside from titan consoles, there's pretty much a handful of ways to get where you want to be anywhere on the maps except the rooftops. You either pod or fly, and on maps like Belgrade or Berlin, with no flyers... eh... kind of a pain if you want to get up to the roof and teach the current occupants there a lesson. ah well.

[Porthos]

Um.... It's not real war, it's a game, based on war. Yes, there are similar tactics envolved, but too many people try to compare it to real war and what you would do in a real war. I'm not trying to offend people, it just strikes me as comical.

Heck, you wouldn't respawn out of thin air like David Copperfield in a real war. You get killed, your done. That would make for a fun game huh? $50 bucks paid, install, crash, reboot, name character, play, get killed and game over because they try to make it real:laugh:

And if it was real, would Titans really have tunnels you could just pop into, or open doors leading to a cargo bay?

Roof Camping... Would you do it in real war? Depends on the situation and tactical advantage gained over risk. In this Game? DICE seems to think you can. Doesn't bother me, I say go for it; I'll get used to looking up. If servers won't let you and you want too, find another one.

[Catziggy]

Roof camping.

Everyones missed a point. These buildings are derelict blown apart shot to smithereens. In real life the doors would have been kicked in blown open whatever and every window would have a sniper in.

Dice couldn't program that in so roof tops are the next best thing.

real life is boring.

[Wizrdwarts]

Alright, I have to admit that I feel good after being called on that. Hmmm, Berlin with Aircraft... Sounds like fun!

Good call :salute:

And the flag? It must be a really long flagpole if it wasn't on the roof. Anyone else think an expanded Berlin with more armor and some jets would be awesome? (plus rooftop spawns ofcourse)

[Catziggy]

And the flag? It must be a really long flagpole if it wasn't on the roof. Anyone else think an expanded Berlin with more armor and some jets would be awesome? (plus rooftop spawns ofcourse)

Imagine Suez...

three parts of the map.... ALL city

2 bottleknecks aka gibralter map.

64 players fighting door to door to fight to the death.

[RangerXML]

Imagine Suez...

three parts of the map.... ALL city

2 bottleknecks aka gibralter map.

64 players fighting door to door to fight to the death.

Nice one!

[FPS[SONIC]]

Honestly, a large-scale urban combat scenario like you describe would be really, really fun. Gibraltar is kind of small, but something three times that size with accessible multi-storey buildings would be kind, son!

[Oz_Ryder]

What about the Fall of Berlin wall glitch that you access from the roof?

[imported_Fish]

question: now that we have established that its not an exploit and its perfectly legal, can server admins ban people for going on the roofs? if they do isnt that a form of restricting play?

[Catziggy]

Probably.

EA rules are vague and it might fall under the general rule of "creating an environement that gives an inflated score"

Admins ban for a lot less lately.

[Speckled_Pants]

question: now that we have established that its not an exploit and its perfectly legal, can server admins ban people for going on the roofs? if they do isnt that a form of restricting play?

Yes and we do on ours, ive not read all the pages in this thread as theres too many, but we feel it is an exploit and we dont allow it. We have warnings on the map load up, warnings at the top of the screen and we will warn people first if we catch them. But if people continue to high roof they will be banned!

[Drewsly]

i am not against roof camping i do it from time to time and i have never had a real problem of getting rid of them either and it is easy to get on the roof and go get there tagz when they are looking at everyone below

[imported_Fish]

Yes and we do on ours, ive not read all the pages in this thread as theres too many, but we feel it is an exploit and we dont allow it. We have warnings on the map load up, warnings at the top of the screen and we will warn people first if we catch them. But if people continue to high roof they will be banned!

but thats the thing.. you cant call it an exploit weather you feel it is or not.. its not an exploit that has been proven now.. its like making a rule up saying if you shoot a guy who keeps on being revived you will be kicked coz we think its exploiting.. no it isnt and surley if you ban people from your server for playing the game within the games machanics and EA DICES intentions you are open to be reported.. dont you think? I know they have given us small latitudes on what admins may kick/ban people for, this might fall under the same rule as no raping the uncapp... if so theres no problem.. but if EA/DICE include no roof top fighting to the restricting gameplay rule then you are breaking ROE for kicking or banning.