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[Cann0n-Fodder]

School Time:evil:

voss=25hp normal damage per shot
krylov = 27hp normal damage per shot

All things being equal, on paper the voss and krylov both kill in 4 shots with normal damage (discounting headshots)

In practise though most of the time the voss needs 5 due to a stray shot to an extremity (only 20 damage)

The Krylovs extra 2hp's offsets one minimal hit in a 4 shot burst 3*27+20=101hp

This is the krylovs dirty little secret & reason why head to head krylov>voss more often than not

End of class:yay:

Well you did School me in the proper use of a Krylov.

I would be honored if you 4 shot burst me in the back with a Krylov for a quick death.

[RichardDawkins]

which one is the krylov and which is the scar? one is silenced afaicr...

ps baur ftw

[Diamond621]

School Time:evil:

voss=25hp normal damage per shot
krylov = 27hp normal damage per shot

All things being equal, on paper the voss and krylov both kill in 4 shots with normal damage (discounting headshots)

In practise though most of the time the voss needs 5 due to a stray shot to an extremity (only 20 damage)

The Krylovs extra 2hp's offsets one minimal hit in a 4 shot burst 3*27+20=101hp

This is the krylovs dirty little secret & reason why head to head krylov>voss more often than not

End of class:yay:

School time? Roughly 85% of players wear heavy armor, which you have entirely forgotten to factor into your calculations. You've also made no account of range - for the Voss and Krylov these damage figures only maintain their relevance out to around 35-40 meters. Also, hits to the extremities have a multiplier of 0.5. I have no idea where you got the "20" figure from.

Please be thorough and correct in your statistics, and stifle the arrogance.

The Krylov's "dirty little secret" is that its damage falls off more rapidly with range, and thus higher stopping power at point blank is granted to it to compensate. This is why most Krylov / Voss duels end in favor of the Krylov at anything under 20 meters.

[Mazee]

Baur for me since i snipe with it too

[alpha1.1]

You've also made no account of range - for the Voss and Krylov these damage figures only maintain their relevance out to around 35-40 meters.

The figures are obviously for CQC if we're talking about landing 4 shots in a 4 shot burst:shakehead:

Roughly 85% of players wear heavy armor, which you have entirely forgotten to factor into your calculations.

As I said the figures vs armor in weapon comparison tool are unreliable. In CQC krylov kills in 4 shots to torso vs either armor

Please be thorough and correct in your statistics, and stifle the arrogance.

:laugh:ROFL

[imported_Ezekiel]

No Krylov > Baur > Voss > Scar

No it goes:

Krylov > Scar > Baur > Voss

[RMcLeod]

Zeller H-ASR :yay:

[Lt.ConVix]

baur forever! :salute:

[RichardDawkins]

it was only due to people harping on about the baur here that i tried it in the first place, it is absolutely awesome and i never use anything but it now, having whored the voss until the last patch

im almost as accurate with the baur as i am with the sniper rifles... 46% or something, and i manage between 20 and 40 kills with it per round.


ps, excuse the boast :)

[Diamond621]

The figures are obviously for CQC if we're talking about landing 4 shots in a 4 shot burst:shakehead:

Many players, myself included, can land bursts at range or use single shot. Please make this distinction instead of having it be an assumption.

As I said the figures vs armor in weapon comparison tool are unreliable. In CQC krylov kills in 4 shots to torso vs either armor

Correct on the first point, incorrect on the second. Those figures in the tool in question are indeed not 100% reliable, and so I do not rely on them. My own tests and experience are the source. The Krylov's 27 base damage within 35m is adjusted by -20% to 21.6 damage, truncated to 21, against the mid torso hitbox, and thus requires five torso strikes to kill an opponent. Test it for yourself.

:laugh:ROFL

Laugh all you want - there is absolutely no excuse for not factoring heavy armor into your calculations. Please be more thorough. :) Cheers.

[alpha1.1]

Many players, myself included, can land bursts at range or use single shot. Please make this distinction instead of having it be an assumption.

Your a baur user? If you can land a four shot burst (as stated) at range I'll gladly eat humble pie :)

[Lt.ConVix]

Your a baur user? If you can land a four shot burst (as stated) at range I'll gladly eat humble pie :)

well it can be done if ure experienced enough and knw how to handle the recoil so it takes ages to learn

also usually a enemy would be dead before the 4th shot =P

[Diamond621]

Your a baur user? If you can land a four shot burst (as stated) at range I'll gladly eat humble pie :)

I'm smart enough not to use bursts at range with the Baur! I said some people, myself included, could do it, not necessarily that I could on a regular basis or would even choose to. I use single shot at long range and require 2-4 shots to kill you.

[blank1]

The figures are obviously for CQC if we're talking about landing 4 shots in a 4 shot burst:shakehead:



As I said the figures vs armor in weapon comparison tool are unreliable. In CQC krylov kills in 4 shots to torso vs either armor




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Dude, you're either lying to suit your purpose or you're up a tree. The Krylov kills heavy armor in 5 shots, the Voss does the same. It has been confirmed by a DICE member that heavy armor reduces damage by 20%, and I have confirmed it by testing it in-game several times and by justice of having played since November. The Baur kills in 4 torso shots, and the SCAR-11, Voss, and Krylov kill in 5 torso shots, all to heavy armor of course.

Do you want to know exactly what I did? I went into a server with a friend, had him sit completely still, and shot single shots in single fire mode. Trust me, the Krylov takes 5 shots. It's not that big of a deal.

[AllFoamNoBeer]

Voss for me, yes, I suck. Got a problem?