DICE's demize calls prone "crutch for campers"

[[ESS]Denyerec]

Re: DICE's demize calls prone "crutch for campers"

I don't get the big deal with prone. In the end it doesn't matter, because if the last two PC BF games has taught us anything, people will flock to the most cluster****ish maps with the most bottleneck areas where only medic and support is required, then spam hand grenades and other explosives ad nauseum until the game finally tells you the round is over. For the poster who was wondering why DICE seems to be going the way of the mindless shooter, just gaze at the sheer quantity of 24/7 Gib and 24/7 Karkand servers and you have your answer. The people still playing the game have shown what they want, so why should DICE put something like prone in the game when people really just want an explosives spamfest game and prone doesn't help with throwing nor evading explosions (aside from sticking your head into a wall to avoid a nade, which is a glitch)?

Quoted, in full, for truth.

[BrokenMachine]

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Quoted, in full, for truth.

This is irrelevant as there isn't any nade spamming or bottlenecks in BC2 because of the destructable environments. You can make your own paths instead of being forced down certain routes like in BF2 and 2142. If you had played BC1, 1943 or the beta of BC2 you would know this already. So if people wanted an explosive spamfest as WolfAlmighty put it then they WOULDN'T be playing BC2 because the destructable environment doesn't offer that. I can't see how prone not being in the game has anything to do with this.

[WolfAlmighty]

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Good to hear. I haven't played any BF game since BF2142 as I don't own an X360 or PS3, but if they make the game so you have to be at least more coordinated than a blind thumbless leper to play it'll be an improvement. As fun as the games could be, they never are once you start playing them (mostly due to server selection) so I haven't even reinstalled them since putting Win7 on my machine. Making hitreg actually...well...reg would be a nice change too, but baby steps are at least better than standing still.

[BrokenMachine]

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I think you'll be pleased with it to be honest. I can't say what the PC version will be like but going by the PS3 version its definitely a step in the right direction. I think conquest will be better and more prominent than on consoles mainly due to the higher player count. The maps on BC1 for conquest were just too big half the time. Maybe it was because conquest was an afterthought and the maps weren't really designed with this in mind but it was a bit of a disappointment. Rush mode is good fun and a nice change to conquest but it will be nice to play some maps designed for conquest this time. But like I say I think this game mode will benefit from the high player count on PC more. You should try and get yourself in the PC Beta so you can really get a taste of the game.

[Rambo]

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Consoles do have a button for prone. In most games its the same button used for crouch. Come on man get your facts straight!

yeah stupid me with assumptions and was just a gripe comment,thanks for the correction

[CptainCrunch]

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You know, this got me to thinking with the whole "no button to prone" thing:

Remember this:



Now why is it with that controller I can do a super combo falcon punch in street fighter, but the controllers of today can not cause a character to lay down or lean?

Crunch

[BrokenMachine]

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They can. Have you even played a console FPS?

[Stev0esque]

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yeah, well for that EVIL game (which shall not be named, except in its lack of dedicated servers, yes, you know the one im talking about) prone is just holding down crouch on xbox360 (I know this because my cousin and I played through the entire campaign when he got it for christmas).

Maybe Dice should just stop making up excuses and just give us a proper answer

[CptainCrunch]

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They can. Have you even played a console FPS?

Yes, thats my point. All the games I have played on the latest gen consoles, though not many, can do it. So why is this rumor that its taken out because of lack of a button being taken as truth?

Crunch

[Kylee!]

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Its not because of lack of button, end of story.

Thats just Rambo with his false claims of heresy in FPS gaming...

[CptainCrunch]

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Its not because of lack of button, end of story.

Thats just Rambo with his false claims of heresy in FPS gaming...

No, that didn't come from Rambo, well, maybe fore BC2 it did, but this was what we heard about with the lean on MW2.

Anyway, it doesnt matter, my point was that the lack of buttons is not the reason.

Crunch

[Kylee!]

Re: DICE's demize calls prone "crutch for campers"

No, that didn't come from Rambo, well, maybe fore BC2 it did, but this was what we heard about with the lean on MW2.

Anyway, it doesnt matter, my point was that the lack of buttons is not the reason.

Crunch

Oh haha, yea well lean was never in any of the console CoD games.

[Roger Smith]

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what does demize call holding an objective?

[TGL|Badlizzard]

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lol, 3 months later and you revive this thread?

[imported_Kalo]

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the engine probably cant handle prone that is why all these exuses are being made,why dont the nurf it down to auto aim also

no prone is just stupid but the kiddies will buy it anyway

I have to wonder if you actually believed this when you posted this.