IMHO - Expect Battlefield 3 in 2011.

[ThatEvilGuy]

Heroes is coming out in 2009, Bad Company in early 2010.

Now, new consoles are supposed to come out somewhere in 2012 and I doubt DICE is going to release another Bad Company for current consoles, 360 is already on it's limits, even in BC2 they really aren't advertising anything new, more like tweaks, here and there.

So between 2012 and 2010, there is 2011 where they have time to release a PC exclusive Battlefield 3.

So in two years, we'll have our game IMO.

[**L96A1**]

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Am not expecting BF3 at all, so i should not end up been disapionted al least.

PS. I heard that the PS3 was expected to last 10 years before a PS4 was going to be made.

Can you give source plaese.:thumbsup:

[aLi3nZ]

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Yeah, I gave up on EA/DICE doing anything Logical. Such predictions are too hard when you bring EA/DICE into the equation.

Hopefully some other company steps up and brings out a simular game that we have all been waiting for.

Purhaps then it will actually have some decent coding.

[unreal_calibur]

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the ps2 was supposed to last 10 years, so ps4 might be out by 2012, if its even gonna be made that is. also whats the point of this thread? bf3 will be out whenever dice releases it which isn't gonna be anytime soon.

[ThatEvilGuy]

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Can you give source plaese.:thumbsup:

Sure, just one of the sources,

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/08/20/crytek_console_forecast/

Like Calibur mentioned PS2 is supposed to last 10 years aswell, Sony just recently has cut support for PSX, it's meant to last 10 years, first couple of years as a primary console, and the rest as a secondary cheap option.

Also if you check here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_(series)
Playstations get released every 5-6 years.

[Elxx]

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Ugh...my wallet does not want to think about another new generation of consoles already...

[**L96A1**]

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That link say's this :-

The president of game developer Crytek has predicted that the successors to the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 will appear within the next three to four years.


This is a games developer predicting this , not SONY saying this.

What would crytek know about it anyway, NOTHING , that's why they are predicting .

The PS3 has soooooooooo many years left before they even think about the PS4, mark my words, it will be ten years untill we see a PS4.

[imported_Whiskey]

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This is a games developer predicting this , not SONY saying this.

What would crytek know about it anyway, NOTHING , that's why they are predicting .

It is a prediction, true...but it's being made by the president of the company. At the very top exec level, most of what they do isn't running day-to-day stuff, it's forward-looking. What trends are taking shape, where the industry is going, and how to position their companies to go in that direction as well. These execs will get an idea of when new hardware is coming out before anyone else, so that they can plan for it...when to start assembling new dev teams, putting money in the budget for ordering/purchasing dev kits from Sony/MS, when to include PS4/Xbox3 titles in their quarterly and yearly predictions, etc.

Nothing is 100% until officially announced, of course, but there is a lot of reason to pay close attention when execs at this level speak out.

The PS3 has soooooooooo many years left before they even think about the PS4, mark my words, it will be ten years untill we see a PS4.

LOL. I'll take that bet...say, a 6-pack of Guinness or Kilkenny? After 5-6 years, Consoles start really falling behind the cutting edge of technology, and limiting what developers can do (heck, they're already limiting what devs can do). That's not when their lifespan ends, of course, they'll still keep making games for them, but new tech does have to keep coming out at the forefront.

Yes, there are also tremendous R&D costs associated with new hardware, but both Sony and MS will get better and more efficient at it now that they've gone through it several times before. And, these companies don't just turn on a dime...everything takes time and planning...they were already starting on PS4/Xbox3 before the PS3/Xbox2 came out.

The Xbox360 came out in Nov 2005. That's 3 1/2 years already. By Nov 2011, it'll have been 6 yrs. 2011-2013 sounds just about right. 10 yrs? No way.

[imported_Whiskey]

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Heroes is coming out in 2009, Bad Company in early 2010.

Now, new consoles are supposed to come out somewhere in 2012 and I doubt DICE is going to release another Bad Company for current consoles, 360 is already on it's limits, even in BC2 they really aren't advertising anything new, more like tweaks, here and there.

So between 2012 and 2010, there is 2011 where they have time to release a PC exclusive Battlefield 3.

So in two years, we'll have our game IMO.

I'm glad you made this topic. I've been wanting to type out what I thought was going to happen, and this gives me the opportunity. :thumbsup:

I think you're half right. Here's how I see it:

- BF3 will be a massive game, a true sequel to BF2
- currently, only a PC could take full advantage of such a game
- games like COD4 show that Console sales for projects like this far outweigh PC sales, so if it's PC-only, that doesn't maximize profit
- in these times of economic downturn, everything is about maximizing profit and limiting risk. Making a PC-only project this big is a risk that EA probably won't take (ie. too much time/$$$ to make such a game, and not enough sales to maximize profit - yes, they'll still make money, but not as much as if they wait).
- because of the above, I don't see BF3 being PC-only, nor do I think it will show up for several more years
- I think the PS4/Xbox3 will be coming out around 2012-ish (plus or minus a year), and that's when a game like BF3 will be made.
- the new Consoles will have the power to run such a game, so it won't have to be dumbed down. It can be developed with PC in mind, with all the bells and whistles, and then ported to Console (instead of vice versa).
- I believe this is the reason for all the secrecy/delay/lack of info on the project. No one wants to tip their hand too early.
- until the new Consoles come out, I believe their plan is to take games like Bad Company/1943 and try to stretch them out and expand them as much as possible to make PC users happier, until a proper BF3 can be made. They will fill the gap as best as possible in the meantime. Until then, they keep building their fanbase on Console, and providing something for PC players, then they really cash in with BF3 when the new Consoles come out, and everyone gets it - a big, epic, proper BF3, without any Console limitations.

Time will tell, but I think this scenario makes the most sense, both from an economic and a tech standpoint.

[**L96A1**]

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LOL. I'll take that bet...say, a 6-pack of Guinness or Kilkenny?

OK, we will say a 6 pack of guinness for you, i will have a 6 pack of fosters.

I think it will be atleast 2017 before we see a PS4 on sale in Europe, making it 10 years snice the PS3 was in sale in Europe.

Like you say, after that point they may still be making some games for the PS3, but I'm on about when the PS4 will be on sale in Europe.


So unlike what ThatEvilGuy say's, and i quote '' new consoles are supposed to come out somewhere in 2012 '' , I don't think it will be anywhere near that date, not even remotely , but thats only my opinion so we will have to wait and see.

[jesus]

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It sucks that consoles have to lead the way in game development.

[[Expletive Deleted]]

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It sucks that consoles have to lead the way in game development.

It's all about the lowest common denominator.
Does anyone remember Donkey Kong Country? Remember how awesome that looked at the time? Does anyone remember how they made it? They made it with the latest computer technology. The renders looked so awesome, in some cases better than what is in-game these days. Obviously the SNES couldn't run it like that. So they lowered what they had until the SNES could run it.
These days, it's the opposite process. They develop a game for the weaker system, because that's where the big money is. So they start low. Then they tend to just throw the game on the other platforms however it fits. I guess it's much more cost effective to make it cheaper and port it everywhere as opposed to making it on the highest end and cutting it to fit on the weaker systems.
I'm not counting the Wii in here. They just throw them a bone every once in a while for ***ts and giggles.

[jesus]

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It's all about the lowest common denominator.
Does anyone remember Donkey Kong Country? Remember how awesome that looked at the time? Does anyone remember how they made it? They made it with the latest computer technology. The renders looked so awesome, in some cases better than what is in-game these days. Obviously the SNES couldn't run it like that. So they lowered what they had until the SNES could run it.
These days, it's the opposite process. They develop a game for the weaker system, because that's where the big money is. So they start low. Then they tend to just throw the game on the other platforms however it fits. I guess it's much more cost effective to make it cheaper and port it everywhere as opposed to making it on the highest end and cutting it to fit on the weaker systems.
I'm not counting the Wii in here. They just throw them a bone every once in a while for ***ts and giggles.

yeah I know and it really annoys me. That's why I only play a select few games from this "gen" that are multiplatform. I just find that for myself, most games nowadays are a huge waste of money and are certainly not worth $50. The last game I bought was TF2 about a month ago for $10 and my next game will most likely be "BF3" or BF:BC2 if it doesn't suck (I'd buy it a couple weeks after release since buying games at release is a scam, IMO, unless there's a SP/MP demo before-hand)

[ThatEvilGuy]

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my next game will most likely be "BF3" or BF:BC2 if it doesn't suck (I'd buy it a couple weeks after release since buying games at release is a scam, IMO, unless there's a SP/MP demo before-hand)

Haha, I know, I never understood people who pre-order games aswell, what's the point you'll be able to buy the game anyway! why not wait and see if it is worth buying?

I think it will be atleast 2017 before we see a PS4 on sale in Europe, making it 10 years snice the PS3 was in sale in Europe.

2017!? no way, PC technology already outdoes both 360 and PS3, by 2017(let's say 2015 in the US), current consoles will feel like Playstation does now.

[|TG| Silver.7]

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- because of the above, I don't see BF3 being PC-only, nor do I think it will show up for several more years
- I think the PS4/Xbox3 will be coming out around 2012-ish (plus or minus a year), and that's when a game like BF3 will be made.
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I think you are right about this, so 3-4 years for BF3, adding game dev time to the console release year

I just wish DICE would communicate with us instead of there ongoing (and even rude) lack of any details at all