Need some help from the Pro Pilots!

[SuperComplex]

Re: Need some help from the Pro Pilots!

You don't need to see it to kill it.

This is what 2v2, 1v1,etc in chopper world revolve around.

[Snoop]

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How can you put in 1000hours and not get it...

Can you read? I only started to learn being a pilot recently.

His sarcasm aside, there's truth to that.

I ignored his sarcasm and understand exactly what he means. When I first started flying I had NO IDEA what I was doing. However controlling the chopper has come a lot easier for me than controlling the jets. I am starting to get some kills but more importantly for now, know my way around the chopper a whole lot better.

Thanks everyone for their comments. Flying has added a completely different element to BF2. It's like a new game for me. I guess practice makes perfect. Thanks again.

[imported_TheDragon]

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unless I missed it here in the replys . . .
the MOST beneficial thing you can do, is get on VOICE coms
(teamspeak or ventrilo) with a goof pilot/gunner)
and learn that way

even those of us that ARE good. . .
voice coms with crew member improve our game play 1000%

[signa]

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...In a pub, I probably look at the minimap every 2 seconds. Also, every time something is spotted, I look at the map. I usually play as medic so when somebody dies, you can see the shock paddle icon on the minimap and then look up on the death list in the top left of the screen to see what killed that person. Say somebody pops up dead at reactor towers, I look up and see the most recent death is an APC kill. Do a couple quick ghost spots over the reactor towers flag to see if you spot an APC, and if so, just shoot. You don't need to see it to kill it. That's the difference between being pro and being good.

that's pretty much how I play, except I usually don't check the kill messages every time. If I see a dead - medic call icon at a flag we own and no one else around you can be sure I'm going there to stop them from taking the flag. If I see a empty car roll up somewhere on the map, im on it, <- usually things people dont pay attention to. If a flag turns white, count on a tv going that way. I pretty much only play SF, so all tv's are pretty much heavy fog shots, but most flags areas are hittable with the tv.

[Sloi sauce]

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Thanks everyone for their comments. Flying has added a completely different element to BF2. It's like a new game for me. I guess practice makes perfect. Thanks again.

If I may?

One thing that really made me a better pilot, situational awareness aside, was practicing flying in, out and around structures on Dragon Valley. I would listen to Ambient Sounds of Ottawa Trance for 30-40 minutes while trying different techniques on the map.

Give it a try.

[=)BiT(= Evant3k]

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If you need to practice with different types of jets choppers, download the Wake Air Show Map. I learned to dogfight well by playing on this map, against some skilled pilots.

Wake Air Show Download Link

[Snoop]

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Start a Local game. You get the better choice of maps and there are no bots. It will help you get the feel of flying.

They say the simplest things are often the most effective. I never really played around with Local Game settings. I have learned more about flying in the last 2 hours than I have any other time.

Thanks for the tip.

[imported_Elder]

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Just stop sucking and be awesome instead.

Hope that clears everything up.

[Snoop]

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Just stop sucking and be awesome instead.

Hope that clears everything up.

WOW! Very helpful, thanks... You sure you're 20?

[FPS[SONIC]]

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I used to be in a similar situation as described in the original post. I was attracted to Battlefield for the infantry and tanks warfare and I didn't care to fly much. I played for years before flying except for some transports.

I practiced flying quite a lot in AIX. Using Maverick missiles helped me to learn how to properly attack targets and got me some kills to keep me interested. As I improved, I moved to new planes and I'm finally at a place where I can successfully dumb-bomb and rocket ground targets while keeping vigilant for other air threats.

I'm still not the best dogfighter with missiles, but I've become a decent ground attack pilot and love to have limited-engagement, cannons-only air battles when the other party is interested.

If you're challenged at flying, AIX might provide some "training wheels" but the desire to improve is very important. If you're embarassed by your MP performance, practice in a local COOP game until your confidence builds.

One final word: there is always someone "better" out there. Don't show off; play your cards close to your chest. Then, when it is time to lay them down -- do it with authority.

Hooah.

[Snoop]

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I practiced flying quite a lot in AIX.

Excuse my ignorance, but what is AIX?

[imported_kiwi]

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mod:

http://www.aixtended.com/

[Snoop]

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Wow, looks amazing! Thanks :)

[Sloi sauce]

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Oh man, you gotta love wannabe pros.

I was just getting started in a Dalian round that was ending when I shot down this chopper with two faggets obviously playing together, just after shooting down the other heli and a tank on the maintenance building side. So these guys decide to comment and say something like "pro hiding in the corner there". I'm used to retards trying to save face, so I ignore it. Round ends and a new one starts.

This is where it gets fun... by the time I alt-tab back in the game and take the heli, I notice we've basically already been capped out except for main. Nice. So I'm expecting company before I leave the uncap... I see the other heli trying to play ninja behind the building next to the main entrance and I dodge the first shot: they decide to come up and make their way to the righthand side of our uncap, hiding behind the mountain, hoping I'll be stupid and fly towards them so they can pop up and fire a shot. Nuh uh.

I bait them out, let them fire their shot and dodge while making my way towards the left side in anticipation of their slide... so I'm covered by the mountain as I take my shot on their sliding heli. BAM: buh bye pub pros. Naturally, they complain that I was hiding and being a scrub. Obviously, these guys have severe short-term memory problems. In any case, I still tell them it was a nice try but they continue trying to save face instead of accepting the fact that I owned them alone.

Word to the pro wannabes: stop trying to rationalize your losses to a better player and learn from the experience. It's OK to admit that you're not the best, okay?

Sigh. People like that remind me why I play the game so rarely now.

[jesus]

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thats so true. :)

cyn, how often do you find yourself looking at the map? I find myself constantly checking the map for stuff spotted, vehicles spawned, aa's occupied, etc. hm, maybe I use it too much.

The map is one of the most important parts of the game. It is your best friend. :) Regardless if it's infantry, jets, or helicopters. I almost always have the full map up when I'm flying the jet. I only take it down when I'm engaging another jet or going in to bomb.

Some of the things I've learned in BF2 are:
you need to literally be able to draw the maps with your eyes closed (aka know the maps by heart). It's quite swell being able to shoot guys out of the AA sites when you can't even see them simply because you know where they are based on your memory.
be aware of your surroundings... if your commander has the UAV up all the time on your position (more common in IO) then you know exactly where the enemy is at all times, so it's much easier to flank them and kill them without them even expecting it.