Hardcore? or Non

[Keyelite]

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Regular is the way the game is meant to be played... go watch Keys video...

http://www.totalgamingnetwork.com/main/showthread.php?t=165949

:p

Both modes require aim, both modes have spamming as a tactic. It just depends on what play style you chose. But PLEASE, don't try to debate that spamming through walls in hardcore is less deadly than it is in softcore.

Oh, and if you think that video proves the point that you aim more in HC, watch me play softcore :)

And, I know most people here who play softcore gave hardcore a try because they like the idea of a "realistic" game. The fact is, and it was said before-- call of duty 4 was not built to be a realistic game. If you do not believe me, play singleplayer. Just look at the swarms of enemies trying to kill you, regenerating health, and the unlockable ARCADE mode. Even look at how big the map sizes are, the way people move, jump. It's too fluid to be realistic.

I enjoy realism, but this is not the game to do it with. I'll be looking forward to Operation Flashpoint 2 to crave my realism hunger

[Kreepy Kitteh =^o.O^=]

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LULZ.. just vote and GTFO!.. none of them is more realistic because ur using a keyboard and mouse for both so stfu! >_<

[imported_Neptune]

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LULZ.. just vote and GTFO!.. none of them is more realistic because ur using a keyboard and mouse for both so stfu! >_<

QFT. I prefer HC though. I dunno i just got used to it. Whenever i go back to non-hc i start shooting a guy, hear three clicks, and move on, thinking that i killed him. Then he just shoots me in the back of the head :dead:.

[LasermanX]

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LOL OWNED :)

[Kreepy Kitteh =^o.O^=]

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I personally see no skill involvement in hardcore, even though it tries to make it as real as possible it doesn't work out especially in very populated servers. If you want realistic go join your countries military.

There's the same amount of skill involved in playing hardcore as there is playing softcore.. I don't think it's meant to be "realistic".. It's hardcore, meaning no HUD aid's and less life..

[imported_Whiskey]

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I personally see no skill involvement in hardcore, even though it tries to make it as real as possible...

There's the same amount of skill involved in playing hardcore as there is playing softcore.. I don't think it's meant to be "realistic".

Both modes require skill, but HC requires a different skill-set than softcore. Being good at one doesn't necessarily mean a player will be good at the other without some adjustment.

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As for realism...previous WWII games like MOH and COD had "realism" mods created by the community, which increased weapon damage and often took away crosshairs & HUD elements. These mods were popular back then, so the developers decided to include it in COD4 right from the start, so that fans would not have to wait for someone in the community to build it. It's not meant to be realistic on the scale of true combat sim games (eg. Operation Flashpoint), just slightly more realistic/immersive than softcore.

[LasermanX]

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Both modes require skill, but HC requires a different skill-set than softcore. Being good at one doesn't necessarily mean a player will be good at the other without some adjustment.

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As for realism...previous WWII games like MOH and COD had "realism" mods created by the community, which increased weapon damage and often took away crosshairs & HUD elements. These mods were popular back then, so the developers decided to include it in COD4 right from the start, so that fans would not have to wait for someone in the community to build it. It's not meant to be realistic on the scale of true combat sim games (eg. Operation Flashpoint), just slightly more realistic/immersive than softcore.

Well put, that's another point I was trying to make but couldn't "spit" it out. :thumbsup:

[L3adcannon]

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LULZ.. just vote and GTFO!.. none of them is more realistic because ur using a keyboard and mouse for both so stfu! >_<

Well that was retarded.

[Kreepy Kitteh =^o.O^=]

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Well that was retarded.

Ooh?.. O.o why so?

[Drewsly]

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Bah!!! just play Promod and there is no skill in publics.

[Piemaaan!]

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promod = Counter Strike.

[iQue]

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PAM4 ftw

And lol promod can be pretty close to CS sometimes

Bah!!! just play Promod and there is no skill in publics.

There is skill in publics but it tends to get lost in all the clay spam and basecamping instead of completing objectives

[magdelen11235]

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Sorry to dissappoint, but your logic makes little sense.

CoD4 already requires little aiming, but requiring only 1-2 shots to kill on every gun makes spraying all the more effective. All it means is that if you get the drop on the enemy - no matter what your skill level - you'll kill them.
REGULAR requires better aiming because you need to hit the target multiple times to take them down - you can't be as effective just spraying. :dead:

There is SO much less spraying in regular than there is in hardcore. I could never walk in to a regular server and just start RPD spraying through walls and be as succesful as I could if I were to have connected to a hardcore server.

As Key pointed out, there's a common misconception among players, and that is:

The term hardcore does not mean the gameplay is "harder" - infact it's quite the opposite.

**Honestly, only in HC can you run around with a USP/silencer (against good players) and still have a chance. So, at risk of beginning to quote and pick apart your post bit by bit, I'll stop ranting - but please, don't even start with saying HC actually requires you to aim more than regular.

IMO the only thing that takes more skill hardcore might be sneaking around, cause that's how I always get killed. I think you have to have better positioning in HC than Regular (I've prolly only played HC 15 times ever though.)

What you're doing is focusing on a couple specific things, which I've seen many people do in the SC vs HC debate. Again, HC isn't perfect, but it is closer to realism than SC.

To make a counterpoint, however, if you get shot in the foot/leg, you no longer have use of that foot/leg. On the battlefield, that often means you're dead (either from blood loss or from more enemy fire because you might not get to cover). Because COD4 has no medic/rescue system, dying from a shot to the leg in HC isn't that far from the truth.

It's not about which is better...HC and SC (and OldSchool) are simply different, and they appeal to different players.

agreed HC is only slightly closer to being more like RL, but who cares? This argument is a bit humorous because ultimately it comes down to an arguemnt about which is closer to a real war than the other, so I would end the argument by asking, do you play COD4 because you actually want to go war? If so join the US Army they're currently at war right now and short on troops:salute:. Or do you play to have fun? :thumbsup:

LULZ.. just vote and GTFO!.. none of them is more realistic because ur using a keyboard and mouse for both so stfu! >_<

lol very well put. ultimately we all play for fun no matter which type we prefer. (though I prefer regular b/c I find I'm better at it, and I admittedly am terrible at HC)

[Keyelite]

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can someone get some statistics on how many hardcore servers vs softcore servers.. as well as the number of players playing hardcore vs softcore?
It would be interesting to match the votes on the forums..

In my opinion, I think COD4 is oversaturated with hardcore servers..

[magdelen11235]

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I agree, but I do think that HC is the more popular server. Everyone I know in RL play pretty much only HC, and when I turn on the HC and Regular filter on I only see HC maybe 1 Regular server for every 6-7 HC. Don't really care though plenty of Regular server to keep me busy