First Crytek no Id Software :S

[Dairuka]

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Never? I grow up which C64 -> Amiga -> 486, all which may be called "Personal Computers" if not all IBM compatible. And I hardly ever saw a console, while these computers were everywhere.

Where I live, the consoles didn't really gain a foothold before the PS2.

When the Commodore 64 was around, the Atari 2600 ruled North America.

Europe was always very slow when it came to gaming.

Please also note that this was long before Consoles were mainstream themselves.

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Meh in my opinion Gaming is better practiced on the PC.

[Vreki]

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PC's have never been dominant over Consoles - not even in the days of Atari 2600.

Of course, thats because PC's have primarily been for work purposes - and gaming has been nothing more than a niche.

Never? I grow up which C64 -> Amiga -> 486, all which may be called "Personal Computers" if not all IBM compatible. And I hardly ever saw a console, while these computers were everywhere.

Where I live, the consoles didn't really gain a foothold before the PS2.

[Dairuka]

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PC's have never been dominant over Consoles - not even in the days of Atari 2600.

Of course, thats because PC's have primarily been for work purposes - and gaming has been nothing more than a niche.

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I am just going to stick with the Cycle tactic, Consoles are great now, in a matter of time PC will rise again and the consoles we have now will begin to cough and MS, Sony and Nintendo will make a Next Gen console once again.

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lol

Ain`t dieing, but def ain`t getting better either.

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I think imho that there should be more new game devs/publishers starting businesses.

[MrChris_CJ]

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indeed, Valve had that huge scrap with Vivendi was it? Their previous publishers because they had no rights to the profits generated on steam

publishers become less and less important, they are still needed for retail perhaps but the crap that EA pull for a start should become a thing of the past

[Dairuka]

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You know. Independent developers make a lot of money when they don't have failure publishers like THQ eating up their profits. Tilted Mill is reporting huge wads of cash from it's recent Steam released Special Edition of a game that had originally been out for four years under the same name to a bad publisher.

I think EA, THQ, Activision and the other Publishing Gurus are afraid of online distribution because it makes them less important.

[MrChris_CJ]

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The downfall of consoles will be when they become PC's. They will get too confusing to use for 50% of the market. Patches, software bugs and registration systems take away the fun of what is meant to be a "pick up and play" system. This is one reason why the Wii is outselling both Xbox and PS3 combined.

yup most people will buy consoles for their simplicity and cost, they begin to cost more and get complicated and people start to wonder

this would all be fine if IT education was better dammit

but there is still PLENTY of money in pc gaming, you think of how Blizzard makes between 800 million - 1 billion US dollars per year on WoW subscription fees alone

like Dairuka said PC gaming sort of grew out of a niche market and is to a certain degree a mainstream platform, but consoles sort of took mainstream to the next level

the indy games are great, because nowadays you can do so much more but that doesn't mean that big budget titles are bad when they are done properly

and I mean as in properly where the publisher doesn't **** things up, look what GSC has done with Stalker and what they will do with Clear Sky

PC Gaming will NEVER be in trouble and tbh never has been (imo), it has so many things going for it

[=98=]

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The downfall of consoles will be when they become PC's. They will get too confusing to use for 50% of the market. Patches, software bugs and registration systems take away the fun of what is meant to be a "pick up and play" system. This is one reason why the Wii is outselling both Xbox and PS3 combined.

[Vreki]

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the bottom line, console innovation is stifled by financial losses of the hardware systems. Neither MS or Sony wish to go down this road again.

Dont they get a license fee for every game sold?
According to this article, there is a "console owner fee" at about 11.5%, or $7 for every game sold.

[stilla-killa]

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Just so ya'll know....consoles are probably on their deathbed as we know it. Microsoft lost billions on the development and deployment of the XBox 360 and they took over a billion in losses so far in defective 360 hardware and they will never be able to make it up. Sony is in the same boat. It costs way too much to create and distribute new console hardware every few years. But both companies knew that all along as this was part of their overall strategy. The 360 and PS3 are both long term consoles. So this is pretty much the peak of graphics on consoles....and this extended funeral will probably last about 5-7 years. Enjoy the console utopia that is now for it will die. In that same time period we will see a revolution in PC graphics. (ray traced vertex shading hybrids) PC gaming is going to flourish especially in the free2play area with ad support.

the bottom line, console innovation is stifled by financial losses of the hardware systems. Neither MS or Sony wish to go down this road again.

My God the Atari downfall all over again.

Re: First Crytek no Id Software :S

Just so ya'll know....consoles are probably on their deathbed as we know it. Microsoft lost billions on the development and deployment of the XBox 360 and they took over a billion in losses so far in defective 360 hardware and they will never be able to make it up. Sony is in the same boat. It costs way too much to create and distribute new console hardware every few years. But both companies knew that all along as this was part of their overall strategy. The 360 and PS3 are both long term consoles. So this is pretty much the peak of graphics on consoles....and this extended funeral will probably last about 5-7 years. Enjoy the console utopia that is now for it will die. In that same time period we will see a revolution in PC graphics. (ray traced vertex shading hybrids) PC gaming is going to flourish especially in the free2play area with ad support.

the bottom line, console innovation is stifled by financial losses of the hardware systems. Neither MS or Sony wish to go down this road again.

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HL series is still amazing, i.e. Orange Box, hell they should call it s3x in a box . Valve is still a very creative firm imho. And tbqh Steam is quite the online retailer, i bought small games from it, GMOD10!!!! but games such as CoD Series and CoH must be bought in a retail box in physical form thats the way i like it i am sure some will agree with me on this.