why the hate?

Re: why the hate?

think about it though as with someone making the comment about if the voss was gone than some other gun would take its place that gun would of course be the krylov BUT then the krylov is a faction gun that can only be used half the time so you wouldnt have these career voss noob type people using the same noob gun for both factions.

That was me that said that. We'd have to see what weapon got the grief if the Voss was taken out of the running.

I'm sure the Krylov would be in the running, but I'm not as certain as you are that it'd get the spot. Anyway, even if it did, it'd surely be used more than half the time, remember EU guys can just stroll over and pick it up off a dead PAC guy... PAC would still have a slight advantage since they'd be able to spawn with it, but I have no worries at all that if the Krylov became THE choice gun, the EU side would be reasonably well-stocked with them a few minutes after the round started.

[imported_Field]

Re: why the hate?

man yeah i used the voss last night. all of you guys talking about its weaknesses and stuff dont know what your talking about, i know for a fact that my scores were marginally higher than they would have been with the other ARs. it has the best stopping power at close range because of ROF and then you can brainshot people that are far away because of low recoil and then you can survive certain situations where normally you woudnt because of the extra bullets. in general i was just surpised at how fast peopl died while using this gun i thought it was a glitch or something but no its the voss. but then this is talking about a crowded 50 person campG. but then cerber or tunis would have been the same thing. I do admit yeah i enjoy how its a little easier to kill people and stay alive while using it, its hard not to want to take advantage of, i do have the most time with it afterall but then because im a scrub i get the typical thoughts in my head that im using a noob gun, im the same as everyone else and the gun doesnt warrant the same respect. nonetheless effective though. idk i just dont want to start using it all the time and then suck with the other guns.

think about it though as with someone making the comment about if the voss was gone than some other gun would take its place that gun would of course be the krylov BUT then the krylov is a faction gun that can only be used half the time so you wouldnt have these career voss noob type people using the same noob gun for both factions.

but still, krylov is the president..voss is the vice

[WolfAlmighty]

Re: why the hate?

I've found that the Voss allows a lot of people to reach their BF IQ peak far too early. They begin to rely so much on having 40 bullets to be able to kill someone that they don't mind using all 40 on one guy. I've seen many teammates shoot at something a fair ways off and just stand (yes, stand, not crouch or prone) and hold down the trigger. Bullets fly everywhere and with enough of them they manage to somehow get the kill. Now, as a self-confessed Baur whore, that simply will not do, but with the Voss you can get away with it. Granted, the people that are actually smart that use it will rape with it, but it's the newb-friendliness that gets under most peoples' skin.

~Wolfgang

Re: why the hate?

Oooooh, all those fond memories of sniper duels. :laugh:

ya, those are always fun.....

[Shurikane]

Re: why the hate?

pilum

Oooooh, all those fond memories of sniper duels. :laugh:

[vanilla]

Re: why the hate?

The only weapons I care about being killed with are the knife and pilum. I don't care about the others.

Re: why the hate?

i love the voss because you have the power to mow down a squad or two without reloading.

And therein lies the point :laugh:

[jackal22]

Re: why the hate?

REASON:


voss is great short range

voss is great medium range

voss is great long range


see a pattern there? every other gun has its 2 ranges is good at and sucks in the third. eg. all other assault rifles & lmgs, medium -> long

smgs, (engie & specops) short -> medium

also the huge ammo capacity is very forgiving IE. after you down maybe 2 guys with a krylov you only have around say 12-15 bullets left, on a normal server thats not enough to guarantee you will survive the next encounter, forcing you to reload and waste those bullets. This means you have to beat the braindead support players on your team for ammo more, the voss doesnt suffer from this as much, you normally die before running out...

[Shurikane]

Re: why the hate?

Brilliant! I'd love to hear a definition of Brittanicus if you feel up to it.

Subspecies Alcoholic

I swear to God, I haven't ever played with a UK gamer who wasn't drunk.

Re: why the hate?

i love the voss because you have the power to mow down a squad or two without reloading. ive gotten my k/d ratio up using it with burst for the past month. all around good gun. i dont see anything wrong with it. :)

Re: why the hate?

Brilliant! I'd love to hear a definition of Brittanicus if you feel up to it.

[Shurikane]

Re: why the hate?

Here you go:

HOMO SAPIENS SAPIENS NEWBIE
This recent evolution of the human species has just discovered the technological age and is eager to get hand-on experience in the field. The Newbie is a likeable, caring individual who looks just like any average human and may even be indistinguishable from the latter. The Newbie will make himself known by politely asking a precise and concise question, which reveals his current lack of knowledge in the matter. When taken in by a well-chosen mentor, he can become a player as strong as they come.


HOMO SAPIENS NEWB
The Newb, while not necessarily dwelving into the pits of debilitium, nevertheless is far from the sharpest tool in the shed. The Newb's attire and age places him into the bracket of the mainstream teenagers, who live the fast life and thus would prefer that things are accomplished in a swift manner - which is, quite unfortunately, "hardly the case with computers, no matter how many jigamegazelda-megabytes your CPU speed is" (quoted from a somewhat misguided Newbie.) The Newb's behavior is generally passive-aggressive, and he will need the help of a strong director in order to make him learn the ropes of the world of computers.

N00B
The n00b is what the different world religions have been hunting all along. The n00b is an inhuman beast, such that his name does not deserve capitalization unless during the act of shouting. Fitting the bracket of the child aged 6 to 17, the n00b is easily recognizable by his overdeveloped vocal cords, habit of running into doorframes, and endless supply of Ritalin (including but not limited to other minor birth defects such as overzealous tear glands.) Academically, the n00b fares poorly at best, no matter the effort (or lack thereof) and follows the same path in many of his endeavors. Due to his constant need for instant gratification, the n00b watches Dragon Ball Z and Naruto for his action fix, and can be found especially on StarCraft playing a map called "The Hunters With Mucho Money". In social situations, the n00b is often the loudest, most nonsensical member of the party, which scientists believe is an ancient, instinctive and uncontrollable method of letting other humans know of his highly deficient intellect, thereby letting others the chance to escape or end his misery. Because he makes no effort except in a futile attempt to click a random button and hope it works, the only method of teaching the common n00b is to staple a Bible, a Coran and a Pali Canon together, slam the 2000 or so pages on the target's face, then jump on top of the compiled documents with both feet together (and wearing Caterpillar Walking Machines Steel Toe), thereby creating a film of brain matter one atom thick under the combined weight. Be careful, as the remainder of the brain matter, which has splattered all around you, is highly acidic and may corrode other objects or persons in an attempt to rebalance its IQ, starting with Marylin vos Savant.




N00B SUBSPECIES
Following up on the three genera of lesser humans (Homo Sapiens Sapiens Newbie, Homo Sapiens Newb and homo n00b - please note capitalization), let's now take a look at some of the more localized subspecies, in which case we'll take a look at the localization's effect as a whole on all three lesser humans. Localization plays a rare to minor part in the newbie, a frequent role in the newb, and can be considered almost a completely alternate species in the n00b, due to the localization being so intense that it even deforms the affected person's personality beyond all repair.



SUBSPECIES KOREA
Those of the korea subspecies demonstrate a highly specialized mind that is able to tackle a particular task in the most efficient possible way, but fails to form even the basic logic in other tasks said person is unfamiliar with. The korea's method of learning is based on intense and sweat-breaking repetition of the task until he is certain that he has mastered it under all of its aspects. While this forms a solid contender on the front he's fighting on, the vigor of the conditions imposed upon the poor sap result in a rather chaotic persona that randomly switches between deathly silent and unnecessarily verbose. A constant, however: the universally accepted form of happiness in the korea subspecies is through the onomatopea "kekekekekekekekekekeke". These humans are to be approached with extreme caution, especially if the environment is multiplayer, and a large amount of people are playing at any given time. They are known for being aggressive, and to actively seek out victims on public and international servers to feast on. Unless lady luck smiles, the korea can chew any player up and spit out the seeds in a record short amount of time. Some koreas have been witnessed as willing to pay for level-up with their life.



SUBSPECIES BRAZILIA
The brazilia is a strange subspecies that apparents itself to a vulture: it will follow up in the games that the koreas have adopted and feast on whatever remains - generally in the form of a heavily crippled, internationalized massively multiplayer game that is doomed to forever remain in beta state. Distinguishing the brazilia is a form of speech that puts emphasis on capitals, and largely disregards spelling and grammar as long as the message can be adequately conveyed. To this day, the average brazilia is unable to comprehend why in the world a person would shun him based solely on skills at observing the rules of the English language. In fact, the brazilia often comprehends nothing - as noted by his oft abysmal performance in the games he plays, going even so far as to become a liability to those around him and perform friendly fire in games that have no player-versus-player content. The easy way to recognize the brazilia is either via his patriotism or his constant bouts of laughter: thanks to choosing an online handle with the letters BR included, or by his incessant burst of "lol" and "jajajajajajajajajaja". Furthermore, the brazilia is reputably impatient, as he will spend his idle times yelling "GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGO" to no one in particular.



SUBSPECIES AMERICA
The america is known as a rather strong subspecies. While nowhere near the level of the korea, the america has the advantage of a more diversified array of skills, most of which are trained to an acceptable level for an enjoyable gaming experience. Spoiling this pleasant competence, however, is the widest gap between sapiens and n00b, the former being a highly intelligent and articulate individual, while the latter has, for only asset, the single braincell that keeps him from defecating uncontrollably on the floor. Added to this problem is the strongest patriotism, surpassing even the brazilia. Simply saying a word that contains "America" or "United States" is enough to make the america cease normal functions and burst into a fit of rage. It is revealed at this point that, no matter where you live, America has saved you from complete anihilation at one point or another in history. Should you refuse to believe this, he will further add that America has the power to decide the fate of your puny country at any time and wipe it out of existence with the batting of an eyelash. Should you, however, admit yourself to be American, he will resort to calling you a stupid liberal.



SUBSPECIES CHINA
The china's behavior approaches that of the korea, but with the major difference that gaming is the china's job. Henceforth, the china has no incentive to bettering himself aside from money, thus providing him with a certain detachment from the game and allowing him to have friends and a family. While the china usually has next to no knowledge of the English language (relative to the korea, who can usually make himself understood, even if marginally) he is an articulate person among his peers. What he says, which game he plays and how high-leved he is, however, is a mystery, as the activities of the china subspecies as a whole are a jealously guarded secret. Unlike the korea, the china tend to keep to themselves, and as such, their effects on the game's community in general is minor. Some, however, do seep into international servers to let loose with their moneymaking schemes: they will create a new account, max it out, and then sell it to the highest bidder. Like the korea, approach with extreme caution. Fortunately, the china will not initiate conflict as long as you do not show any signs of hostility to him.



SUBSPECIES NIPPON
The nippon share a good relationship with the americas, and for good reason: the nippon subspecies is often polite, chevalresque, and willing to play by the rules. That is, among themselves. Although they do not openly express discomfort at those who visit nippon servers, they will nevertheless react nervously in the face of foreigners. It is but an open secret that the nippon like their own company, and do not wish any outsiders to disturb it. This can make playing in nippon space a rather tough thing to do, since the language barrier (including sugoi, desu, kawaii and ^_^, which the nippon do not consider a proper functional level of their language) and the defensive attitude of the nippon make them a very difficult community to be accepted into. At all times, the guest must remain composed and competent - just like the nippon, who have the narrowest gap from sapiens to n00b. In fact, they do not divide into those conventions: all nippon are averagely skilled at a wide variety of tasks. Their only downfall is their aversion to outsiders. Praise to those who gain the respect of nippons, for their will have gained not only good allies, but also the best chance of playing a truly enjoyable and fair game. Bring a coffee to the fight, however, as the nippon's instinctive habit of playing by the book without any fancy or flamboyant maneuvers will make your gaming experience among them soporific at best.



We hope this bulletin was useful to your proper recognition of different gamers, newbies, newbs and n00bs in the world.

[BandoIruka]

Re: why the hate?

Derailed

I'm wondering why people don't hate smgs instead. There are times I could had sworn they handle exactly the same. The only difference is the damage the bullets inflict. I guess voss was the unlucky gun that people decided to blame all their inadequacies on. I think ill blame the widespread number of camp G and other infantry maps influencing the overall weapons usage in the game.

If you don't like bumping into so many voss users, go play on titan servers (only because no one really play large conquest maps when titan games is more fun and requires less travelling around)

Re: why the hate?

What is a noob? I've heard of talk about a noob tube, is this the same as a boob tube? Is noobs the new word for boobs? Does not knowing what a noob is make me a noob?









Or am I just a tit for making this post?!

Re: why the hate?

when i first unlocked it, It used to be my main AR when i was going medic. After that i just got bored using it. so came the krylov, still used the voss when EU. then i had my time with the baur, great gun in any kind of situations. then Got sick of 20 round mag and only went with original PAC/EU AR. SCAR11, is one of my fav now... But now when i pick the voss, i remember why i used to love it. its just a good damn great offensive gun. Saying someone is noob cuz he uses the voss is just ignorance, and that prolly he just cant master it.