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  • LaikaSB
    Member
    • Aug 2007
    • 316

    #31
    Re: has anyone ever thought of.....

    Does anyone know why my video card sometimes doesn't render vehicles until I'm within approximately two hundred meters?

    When I play PLA on Dragon I die to linebackers all the time because I get locked onto by a vehicle I can't see. Before anyone asks I've got geometry on high and view distance at 100%.

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    • [Expletive Deleted]
      The Penetrator
      • Oct 2006
      • 2855

      #32
      Re: has anyone ever thought of.....

      Originally posted by LaikaSB
      Does anyone know why my video card sometimes doesn't render vehicles until I'm within approximately two hundred meters?

      When I play PLA on Dragon I die to linebackers all the time because I get locked onto by a vehicle I can't see. Before anyone asks I've got geometry on high and view distance at 100%.
      I'm not sure about Dragon but I know on some maps the view distance is shorter than the AA lock. Sharqi is a perfect example. The AA on top of the building at the Hotel flag can hit choppers almost as soon as they leave the pad on the TV Station.

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      • WolfAlmighty
        Artillery Magnet
        • Jan 2007
        • 2113

        #33
        Re: has anyone ever thought of.....

        Originally posted by Jimtool655321
        Can you prove without a doubt that switching seats breaks AA lock in the current patch? Because back in 1.2 I made a video of AA missiles dodging my chopper when I switched. Around 1.3 or possibly before I made another video of missiles hitting my chopper normally while I switched. Out of the tests I did in a LAN with my wife, missiles were not affected by my being in the other seat at all. If I didn't use flares and just switched seats, she got me every time.
        So based on tests I personally conducted on a LAN server and online, soloing has nothing to do with piss-poor AA performance.

        And people continuing to propagate this "fact" about it breaking the AA lock are what causes a lot of servers to ban soloists.
        Hmm, could be they changed it in one of the latest patches, then. I just remember a round of FuShe where I was in an AA vehicle and as I was locking on to the guy he'd just switch to the gunner seat, I'd lose my lock, he (of course) would fire a TV missile at me and down I go, with no chance to return the favour. Could have been that they've changed it since then, since that was a while ago, so you're probably right. My apologies.

        Regarding shoulder-mounted AA ruining the game, if done properly I think it would work out just fine. It would have to be weak, like each soldier only gets maybe three or four, and it would take three to take down an attack heli, two for a jet, maybe four or five for a transport bird, etc. And you could also gimp the rest of the soldier's armament a-la BF:V as I mentioned, where you don't give the AA trooper a rifle - only a knife and a pistol (no nades either) - with their stinger. So they would be easy pickings for pretty much any other soldier class in the game, therefore making them not very good at camping airfields since any sniper, assault, medic, etc. on the enemy team could take them down with ease, and they'd have no legitimate counter to any other vehicle as well. It would take dedication to play an AA trooper as you'd be giving up all your other tools, but at least it would be an option if your team is absolutely getting murdered by aircraft and your team doesn't have any competant pilots or you do but morons got into the aircraft at the beginning of the round and ended up costing you air superiority for the rest of the round.

        ~Wolfgang

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        • jesus
          Member
          • May 2007
          • 2413

          #34
          Re: has anyone ever thought of.....

          I thought there was shoulder mounted AA rockets in the game?

          Oh, right. It's just because I'm good with the AT rocket :p

          I've shot down so many helos with it. both attack and transport

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          • RW-RogueWolf

            #35
            Re: has anyone ever thought of.....

            Originally posted by AKULA
            Changing a server rule to allow attacks on enemy planes and choppers in the uncap???
            Ok first off if i'm reading correctly, you want to change the rule from No attacking uncaps to you can attack uncaps?
            So basically you want a sh!t server that allows baserape?

            And Slio, i could be a 4 star general with an impeccable KD ratio and a private could own the crud outta me, so stats mean jack all dude, so stats arnt everything.

            As for BF2, nothings gunna change, lets all wait for BF3 and start again, lets hope EA/Dice got it right this time.

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            • imported_Chael
              Member
              • Mar 2006
              • 602

              #36
              Re: has anyone ever thought of.....

              Wow, things have really heated up since last night.

              I just thought I might drop the IP to one of my favorite servers, "Wake Madness!!"

              74.53.113.76

              This server has no rules except no TK, FTK, glitch, cheat, pad, and flashing/C4ing friendly vehicle spawns. Pretty much the only rules needed. Ever.

              Yeah it gets frustrating when a jet or chopper rapes the carrier. But I bet it's frustrating for the choppers when an infantry on the carrier rockets their face. And when that F35 finally gets a chance to take off (at least when I'm flying), those J10s had better run.

              And to the OP, how can you allow pad raping the carrier and not allow troops to infiltrate? First off, attacking the carrier as infantry is fun as hell and second, killing infiltrating infantry on the carrier is fun as hell. Snipe me out of my jet? Fine! I can knife a sniper.

              If only people would have fun playing instead of whining about their KDR.

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              • LaikaSB
                Member
                • Aug 2007
                • 316

                #37
                Re: has anyone ever thought of.....

                My favorite baserape rules say that armor/helo's/plane's/arty can baserape when the baseraping team has all the flags and that infantry/DPV's/FAV's can baserape anytime they want.

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                • Sloi sauce

                  #38
                  Re: has anyone ever thought of.....

                  Originally posted by AKULA
                  Shoulder mounted stingers would destroy the game for chopper whores yes but it would even the playing field for everyone else. The whores complain about having to deal with AA, other jets and Helis..... Boohoo.... Not getting your 100+ points per round? Welcome to the real world.

                  People would be camping outside your base with stingers taking you down eh??? Again, welcome. On that note I rarely see a full squad of AT move in on a flag taking out vehicles... Most squads usually have just one AT guy and if he's good he can really defend the squad properly but if he sucks then the squad doesn't stand a chance. Having shoulder mounted stingers that are not detectable by ground radar would be a great way to make things better for both chopper whores and infantry by honing your skills in a different way. I'm a fair guy but when I drill an anti tank round into an attack chopper only to see it turn towards me and take me out with a few rockets that's just too unfair to overlook. If chopper and jet whores want their 100+ points they should work for it just like everyone else.

                  Sooo... Would anyone come to a server that allows base raping the aircraft???? I'm just wondering because I'm thinking of setting up a server.
                  Just as I thought, you're certifiably retarded. Now that I know, I won't waste any time trying to make you see reason. Your first post was already clue enough though...

                  Originally posted by LaikaSB
                  Does anyone know why my video card sometimes doesn't render vehicles until I'm within approximately two hundred meters?

                  When I play PLA on Dragon I die to linebackers all the time because I get locked onto by a vehicle I can't see. Before anyone asks I've got geometry on high and view distance at 100%.
                  What kind of videocard do you have?

                  I only start seeing the linebackers from approx 300 meters. You may not be alone...

                  Originally posted by BloodHound
                  And Slio, i could be a 4 star general with an impeccable KD ratio and a private could own the crud outta me, so stats mean jack all dude, so stats arnt everything.
                  Agreed if we're talking about general stats... but the specific heli stats do tell quite a lot. I've found they're decent indicators of skill when the person performs both functions: it's not as clear when we're talking about dedicated pilots (like I was for my first 200 hours) or gunners.

                  Just to give you an idea, for me to get 4.6KD after 330 hours of playing, 200 of which had a 2.2KD, I had to play the remaining 130 hours with a KD of 8.3: that's what I mean by it not being as clear when we're talking about people who were dedicated pilots or transport wh0res for a considerable period of time.

                  Either way, give me 20 seconds to watch someone and I'll tell you right away if they got their KD on a map like Sharqi and Wake or a "real" map like Daqing, Kubra, Dalian or Dragon.

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                  • imported_kiwi
                    Member
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 555

                    #39
                    Re: has anyone ever thought of.....

                    Originally posted by AKULA
                    and do what??? play cards lol.... I'm not saying that full out baseraping should be allowed I'm saying that you should be able to baserape the aircraft as in GO IN, DESTROY UAV, SAT, ARTI AND AIRCRAFT...... I don't mean go in, drop artillery, steal vehicles and kill everyone and anything. Now that WOULD BE unfair.
                    Still better than dieing the moment you spawn and wait another 15s to respawn and repeat this in loop without stopping :)

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                    • imported_AKULA
                      Member
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 170

                      #40
                      Re: has anyone ever thought of.....

                      Originally posted by BloodHound
                      Ok first off if i'm reading correctly, you want to change the rule from No attacking uncaps to you can attack uncaps?
                      So basically you want a sh!t server that allows baserape?

                      And Slio, i could be a 4 star general with an impeccable KD ratio and a private could own the crud outta me, so stats mean jack all dude, so stats arnt everything.

                      As for BF2, nothings gunna change, lets all wait for BF3 and start again, lets hope EA/Dice got it right this time.
                      "I'm not saying that full out baseraping should be allowed I'm saying that you should be able to baserape the aircraft as in GO IN, DESTROY UAV, SAT, ARTI AND AIRCRAFT...... I don't mean go in, drop artillery, steal vehicles and kill everyone and anything. Now THAT is base raping and THAT would be unfair."

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                      • imported_kiwi
                        Member
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 555

                        #41
                        Re: has anyone ever thought of.....

                        What's the point of destroying empty vehicle if it respawns rather soon? OK, on some maps it takes longer but those vehicles are never empty.

                        And destroying vehicle when some1 is about to enter or has just entered is the same as baserape.

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                        • rowdyman

                          #42
                          Re: has anyone ever thought of.....

                          Originally posted by Sloi

                          Shoulder mounted AA would destroy this game...
                          ...You'd have groups of people camping airfields, carrier and helipads to shoot air vehicles down...
                          Well, 2142 had such a kit option and it didn't produce these camping wolf packs. It did, however, provide a little bit of relief from air power if the ground soldier had a good spot. But, by and large the AA kit wasn't used all that much, it basically just did enough damage to back the pilot off for a repair run which gave the ground guys enough time to get to cover. It was very well balanced I thought; not an insta-kill for the AA kit, but not just blowing pilot a kiss either.

                          Originally posted by Sloi
                          More damage from existing weapons would do just as well...
                          I couldn't agree more. A .50 cal would rip through the cockpit without so much of an afterthought; it would put a hurtin' to the fuselage too. If the-powers-that-be saw fit to increase the damage dealt, it would be like example above. Not enough neuter the choppers, but enough to make a dumb pilot pay. I don't think good pilots would be affected all that much; they already play smart, they’d just have to play a little smarter.

                          :salute:

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                          • H.C

                            #43
                            Re: has anyone ever thought of.....

                            hmm what about working aa...no wait i just play Point of existence2:yay:

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                            • Sloi sauce

                              #44
                              Re: has anyone ever thought of.....

                              Originally posted by H.C
                              hmm what about working aa...no wait i just play Point of existence2:yay:
                              Funny you should mention that...

                              I'm downloading POE2 right now. I'll give it a shot tonight: does anyone want to pop my POE2 cherry?

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                              • FBmantis

                                #45
                                Re: has anyone ever thought of.....

                                Originally posted by H.C
                                hmm what about working aa...no wait i just play Point of existence2:yay:
                                Indeed. If you want to see working AA and a good balance in the vanilla arcade style then you should be playing PoE2. Good pilots can still cause lots of trouble but solid tools(including shoulder aa) are there to make things very difficult.

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