Too many RULES

[ElFipso]

^^ sorry can't do that.
Can you please simulate that for me?

[Kreepy Kitteh =^o.O^=]

^^ sorry can't do that.
Can you please simulate that for me?

lol.. yes i can

"Not your average arcade or tactical FPS, BF2 is more likely a modern warfare simulator. The total war experience."

quoted from gamespot! u cant say that an unreliable source

[ElFipso]

As you won't step back, and I won't neither, we can keep it this way:

I will still regard BF2 as a game and not as a simulation because except for the environment it simulates nothing. "Gameplay", behaviour of vehicles and weapons is far from being realistic (which is the original purpose of a simulation: having everything as realistic as it can be).

You can still regard BF2 as a simulation because you've read somewhere that is is a simulation.

I'm cool with that ;-)

[Kreepy Kitteh =^o.O^=]

lol.. nub :p

i dont classify it a simulator just because i read it somwhere.. its just what it is..

[ElFipso]

lol.. nub :p

i dont classify it a simulator just because i read it somwhere.. its just what it is..

And on what facts do you base your assumtion?

[Kreepy Kitteh =^o.O^=]

And on what facts do you base your assumtion?

my assumption?.. just because its not 100% like real life doesnt dissregard it as a simulator!

[ElFipso]

I'm afraid you don't get my point.

A simulator serves the purpose to have the settings as realistic as possible to simulate the real settings.
You mentioned MS flight simulator where a huge amount of factors have influence on the flight it simulates (like weather, weight of aircraft, speed etc). These factors are then calculated and the behaviour of the plane will then react to these factors. It is meant for the user to have an experience the comes as close to RL as possible, so the users gets the feeling of being in a real aircraft, because he has to take into account the different scenarios.
There are indeed games that come pretty close to a simulation, like racing games where any damage you get on your car will change the performance of your car.

Regarding this, BF2 is not a simulation.
Of course the scenario of BF2 US vs. MEC is quite up to date and ,yeah, the environment looks pretty realistic, but you have to admit that everything else is not even nearly realistic.

Project Reality (and it is called so for a reason) is a big step in the direction of a simulation, and it would be harder to argue if it was about PR. But BF2 is a war game and not a war simulation.

So, you came up with percentages.
What percentage in BF2 is RL-simulation.
I would say it's like 15% the rest is arcade.

FipZ

[Kreepy Kitteh =^o.O^=]

ok i cant be bothered arguing this VERY pointless disspute anymore.. im not saying its not a game because it is.. but in the genre of war simulation.. wether u think its real enough to be a simulator or not is up to personal prefrence but that DOESNT mean its not classified a war simulator.. this whole argument started because i addressed it as a war simulator.. and i was not wrong to do so.. so rather than try and prove urself right in a situation that ur not.. just accept the fact that its classified a war simulator and move on rather than make a fool of urself.

[ElFipso]

thanks
If I label my bycicle saying it is a motorbike, you'll believe it, wouldn't you?
Whatever...
I'm done with it quoting:

"You know you've won an argument when the other one begins insulting you" ;-)

[Kreepy Kitteh =^o.O^=]

thanks
If I label my bycicle saying it is a motorbike, you'll believe it, wouldn't you?
Whatever...

that makes no logical sense.. a simulator is an imitation of somthing thats real.. what part dont u understand?

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[Sloi sauce]

It's not much of a simulator if people can still walk around after a .50 to the chest.

[waaah_wah]

is CS a war simulator??.. i just explained what the word simulator means.. u figure it out

A simulator is something that is supposed to be as close to real life as possible. ArmA is a simulator, Microsoft flight simulator is a simulator, BF2 is an arcadish game. It was never ment to be realistic.


EDIT: (for the denser people) quote from the dictonary "To make in imitation of or as a substitute for"

Just to put this argument to rest read what it says under Battlefield 2 in this review..

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It's not much of a simulator if people can still walk around after a .50 to the chest.

Or if it only takes 8 buttons to fly an attack helicopter or jet.
Or if someone can live through multiple pistol rounds to the face.

[Kreepy Kitteh =^o.O^=]

It's not much of a simulator if people can still walk around after a .50 to the chest.

that doesnt stray it from being classified a war simulator.. i was called out for addressing it a war simulator.. im just justifying my reason..

[waaah_wah]

that makes no logical sense.. a simulator is an imitation of somthing thats real.. what part dont u understand?

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And Bf2 is not a simulator. Wich part oh THAT did you not understand?

that doesnt stray it from being classified a war simulator.. i was called out for addressing it a war simulator.. im just justifying my reason..

If we use your logic we could also say that Mario Cart is a racing simulator. Hey it has cars in it....