I feel impelled to write a chopper thread..

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  • Kayback

    #46
    When I played the Single Player mission with the AC-130 I couldn't wait to get into MP if they had a similar thing. It would seriously rock.

    While it would be "death from above" with no way of fighting back, how easy is it to fight back against an airstrike, or a chopper when armed with an SMG?

    One thing they could do is interupt your kill streak. You hit 6 for the AC-130, and get removed from the battlefield. Now you've got the godly power of a 105 Howitzer, 40mm Bofor and a 25mm Gatteling gun. Limit the time, or ammo or something. Whatever. But because you aren't on the field, you don't get your kill streak.

    Ohhh. Hard choice. Play AC-130, or keep that kill streak? Once the AC-130 is over, you get respawned back at the spawn. Not a death, but it interupts that kill streak.

    How many times have you been shot buy a guy, to get hit by this airstrike as you respawn, to get helicoptered as you spawn again, to get grenaded by the same guy as you spawn the 3rd time 'cos he's now camping your spawn......

    If he is that good, take him off the field. If he wants to continue dominating, he doesn't have to press 6.


    thoughts?

    KBK

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    • groundedzero
      I AM THE EMBODIMENT OF /b/
      • Feb 2008
      • 2923

      #47
      i like it, but it would mean a hell of a lot more work for IW... but i might suport it

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      • Kodakk
        Member
        • Oct 2006
        • 3486

        #48
        Would be way too powerful IMO. Yes, you could get killed, but it just doesn't seem practical.

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        • =)BiT(=BlackMage
          Member
          • Dec 2007
          • 165

          #49
          Originally posted by Kayback

          thoughts?

          KBK
          Awful, awful idea. Give a player the god power to blow up anything and everything on the map? The helicopter is bad enough! I praise Hojo that it's not smart enough to be constantly firing for the minute or whatever that it's up!

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          • StoneCold313
            Member
            • Jul 2007
            • 2198

            #50
            Originally posted by =)BiT(=BlackMage
            Awful, awful idea. Give a player the god power to blow up anything and everything on the map? The helicopter is bad enough! I praise Hojo that it's not smart enough to be constantly firing for the minute or whatever that it's up!
            I gotta agree..

            AC-130 would just break the game soo bad...

            How you are suppose to counter that? Shoot it down with you Scorpion, while the Spectre is flying in 15000 feet up?

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            • GrossKopf
              Member
              • Jun 2005
              • 1180

              #51
              Originally posted by CptainCrunch
              Gross, you know thats not going to happen because then what will others have to talk about?

              Next you will be talking about turning on Friendly Fire to stop grenade spams and martyrdom.

              CRAZYTALK! :nod:

              Crunch
              I'm sorry. I'll go away now. :shakehead

              Originally posted by Roger Smith
              the UAV should acquire targets the exact same way the helicopter does. it should also be a physical game object that can be destroyed, ala bf2.

              the game needs much much bigger maps and some sort of safe spawning and actual in-game organization.

              5 kills = uav

              10 kills = airstrike

              20 kills = heli
              I've said it before and I'll say it again. The UAV/Airstrike/Helo is all modifiable... on "Unranked" servers. However, these "unranked" servers can now run ranked - not part of IW's official ranking - with mods such as the AWE4 mod, where all AWE4 servers running "ranked" allow persistent ranking throughout all of the AWE4 servers.

              Originally posted by Roger Smith
              maybe the amountages could be based on player count and map. on shipment it just shouldn't be a possibility. actually they should just murder whoever made that map, and whoever let the map get put into the game. same goes for that ship map.
              I removed both of these maps from my server's rotations the first day the game was out. I saw how horrible they were right off the bat.

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              • Chris_Redfield
                Member
                • Oct 2006
                • 5986

                #52
                Everyone who wants the requirements for "bonuses" to be pushed up, want it only because newbies wouldnt be able to get them and they would. Thats pretty unfair. Considering it took me quite some time before I could get a chopper strike for the first time. And like D-Man said, if you let your team to get raped 5-7 times in a row without a response, you deserve to be plucked.

                The only map where chopper is of any use, is in Ambush. Well, and sh!tment.

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                • Kodakk
                  Member
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 3486

                  #53
                  ^^ What are you talking about? The choppers are deadly on numerous maps: Crash/Crossfire/Backlot/etc - drawing conclusions from the servers you must play in (10-) is not an acceptable sample.

                  And they do track the higher scoring players more... Which, honestly, sucks because it will shoot you through the smallest crack in the wall.

                  I agree with boosting the requirements, not so the "skilled" players get it, but for the sake of having a game between 2 teams, not between helicopters/airstrikes.

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                  • imported_Whiskey
                    Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 3325

                    #54
                    I like the idea that one could call in a new chopper to shoot down an enemy helo already in play, maybe if doing so would reduce the new chopper's flight-time by half as well.

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                    • troybob
                      Member
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 2823

                      #55
                      why not just put stingers in the game?

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                      • iQue
                        Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 4925

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Whiskey
                        I like the idea that one could call in a new chopper to shoot down an enemy helo already in play, maybe if doing so would reduce the new chopper's flight-time by half as well.
                        That's not a bad idea.

                        Something I'd like even more would be that once you call in a chopper it goes rampage on the map for about 20 seconds and then quickly disappears. What I mean is that you get a "Enemy chopper inbound" message and you quickly find cover. The chopper comes in, shoot everythings that moves, and then it roars away in the distance without terrorising the map for 5 minutes.

                        If you find cover it wouldn't be a problem (allowing one team to quickly push forward) and it would quickly disappear meaning no constant annoyance.

                        Nothing I'd like to see implemented through a patch in CoD4 but just a little thing I'd like to see in CoD14 or something

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                        • Chris_Redfield
                          Member
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 5986

                          #57
                          Originally posted by [SSM] k0daK
                          ^^ What are you talking about? The choppers are deadly on numerous maps: Crash/Crossfire/Backlot/etc - drawing conclusions from the servers you must play in (10-) is not an acceptable sample.
                          Well, if you go down that road, Sally, then every map there is, choppers are the most menacing threat to counter.

                          I took my example of the "worst chopper maps" from the simple fact on how much cover you get through the entire map and how fast you can get to said cover since the chopper warning appears. As such, Crash, Crossfire and Backlot are one of the BETTER protected maps. Of course, if youre slow enough and lack the attention span of 15 seconds, surely youll get caught on every map there is.

                          I didnt even include the missile silo map for the simple fact that in 10-15 seconds it takes for the chopper to reach the playground, you will be able to get down to cover. So Im not really counting how many kills you may collect with a chopper (as the interweb servers are filled with stupid lemmings who fall prey to the simpliest threats), but the number of places to take cover in and the time it takes to reach said cover. Hence, Ambush being one of the worst as it has only 5 potential spots to take cover from chopper and air strikes and they are scattered around way too much.

                          And they do track the higher scoring players more... Which, honestly, sucks because it will shoot you through the smallest crack in the wall.
                          Prove it. Dont whine, dont assume, dont get all teary eyed. Prove it.

                          I agree with boosting the requirements, not so the "skilled" players get it, but for the sake of having a game between 2 teams, not between helicopters/airstrikes.
                          Sorry, but I dont think its fair to have you and your best buttbuddies have the strikes while the rest of the gang struggles to meet a 2 kill streak. If youre so concerned about choppers, and if by some Godly miracle you are right in assuming that choppers hunt the highest scoring players, then you should appreciate the balance IW shoved in because the newbie wouldnt have any other means to tackle a serious hardass FPS God.

                          Wheoo. Im done. Thanks.

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                          • Kodakk
                            Member
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 3486

                            #58
                            Ok, you're officially blocked on my list - learn to be a contributer and not a basher please. All you did to counter-argue my points was publicly bash/insult me both indirectly and directly.

                            Mods can remove this, but I felt like sharing.

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                            • Sike
                              Member
                              • Jun 2006
                              • 1742

                              #59
                              agreed with you aerialz i have been shot through walls and cracks by the helos (NO ********) i would mind if they did less damage but i agree with the raising the requiments but only for the helo
                              i think:
                              3 = UAV
                              5 = Airstrike
                              10 = Helo

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                              • Chris_Redfield
                                Member
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 5986

                                #60
                                Originally posted by [SSM] k0daK
                                Ok, you're officially blocked on my list - learn to be a contributer and not a basher please. All you did to counter-argue my points was publicly bash/insult me both indirectly and directly.

                                Mods can remove this, but I felt like sharing.


                                Sorry, next time you draw the punch, try to think 3 posts ahead.

                                Feel free to put me on your ignore list just because I disagree with you or God forbid, actually talk back at you if you snap at me.

                                Sike. Whenever your toe sticks out or even if your elbow is visible, you become a target to the chopper. Which is why often a simple roof on top of ones head isnt enough. If even the slightest part of you is visible, you will be shot at.

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