What do you think?

[Kodakk]

^^ Would be cool, or at least give it more advanced AI:

It can only target you if it sees x amount of your body - no more shooting you through tiny gaps.

It can't target through smoke/dense grass

Or possibly, it tracks based off of UAV.

[System]

Lol yeah some definately nice ideas. I remember my first time being a sniper proned in the long grass not moving, thinking I was invincible to that death machine only to be its first victim of the many...

I was playing last night and I'm such a chopper hater that I killed them the moment they were called in, 3 enemy choppers one after another all destroyed by my trusty RPD. Casulaties, one or two at most.

Just thinking off topic here, now I can see why artillery was not implemented in bf2 io mode. Not saying I wanted it, just my people I've played with wished it was in io mode but what a mess assets like that make in cod4. Another thumbs up for EA seeing a bad idea.

just a random idea, a berret aimed at the roter of the helicopter should bring it down in one shot.

[EyeofG]

I'd just like to say that this is a really great game, much like bf2 was when I was hooked on it for the first year or so. But the more I play the more problems I am beginning to see in the game, some minor announances and other things that I find as a big problem. So lets see if you agree or disagree with my points here, I will list bullet point first and then you may choose to scroll down for a detailled reason.

A) Support Weapons (LMG)

B) Fixed MG

C) Bunny Hopping

D) Prone/Crouch Fire Delay

E) Martydom

F) Helicopters

G) Spawns

H) Guns Floating


A) Support Weapons (LMG)

Coming from BF2 I am use to being forced to have to shoot in controlled bursts to keep the gun from over heating which also increased you're over all accuracy with the weapon. However, I've noticed in COD4 that this is hardly the case, the exact opposite in fact. I think that this was a good feature in BF2 that should be considered in this game for all support weapons.

Typical example: Someone on the side of one wall using bullet penetration or guarding a hallway door just spamming bullets constantly. The only time they stop is when they have to reload or they run out of ammo.

B) Fix MG

Fixed MG's really need to be cut back on there power. They should have an over heating feature on them so people don't spray and pray on In fact, they don't even need to pray considering that these guns seem to have splash damage. Perhaps the gun should also need to be reloaded occassionly, to hopefully cut down on this bullet spam.

Typical example: Maps like Downpour and Backlot, especially Downpour are mostly controlled by the two fixed MGs. Backlot is somewhat bad but unlike Downpour, there are more blindspots on these emplacements allowing people to actually kill the people who sit there all game.

C) Bunny Hopping

In the beginning I didn't see anyone bunny hopping which was great. Now when I play I am constantly seeing it. If they want to jump like retards, there should be serious consequences to it, perhaps not being able to shoot like in BF2. This game represents a bunny hoppers dream, at least EA got something right in BF2 on not shooting while in the air. If shooting while in the air is to stay, then at least consider decreasing the accuracy of the weapons while hopping around.

Typical Example: Sneaking up or moving in, surprise the enemy who turns around and just jumps around and shoots you down. Or they are over confident and just run headfirst into the action jumping and shooting.

D) Prone/Crouch Fire Delay

Another thing EA got right was a fire delay while switching between standing, crouch and prone. I never realised how much of a difference this made in BF2 untill I played COD4 - people jumping then swithcing to prone - tieing into the bunny hoppers parade.

Typical Example: Shooting someone who just keeps shooting while switching to prone from standing. Or the bunny hopper who jumps around and prones while shooting.

E) Martydom

Personally I say take this feature out of the game, its so dumb. All this promotes is running into a group of ppl like an idiot after spamming nades everywhere.

However, I know that will probably not happen so I was thinking last night that people who are level 55 should no longer get to use martydom. My reasoning is that there is no point for them to use it anymore at this stage in the game. They no longer need the XP from the free kill(s).

F) Helicopters

I thought this was a very cool feature in COD4 initially but as time went on I only got more annoyed with it than appreciating it. I say take it out of the game, or at least make it a lot less accurate. Another thought is to increase the kill streak you need to get it, or limit its use per person per game (example would be max 2 times per person and the kill streak required should be 10 or 15 even) Another thought is that if someone is getting so many kill streaks, how about a progressively harder kill streak to obtain the helicoputer support or airstrike. (example would be you get first helicopter 7 kill streak, the next one will require 10, and the following 15.)

G) Spawns

I'm not the only one who has had this happen to me, I spawn right in front of the enemy or I spawn on top of a grenade about to explode or I spawn in the middle of an air strike. Another Bad spawn is the beginning of The Bog, people use the grenade launcher to kill a good portion of the enemy team the moment the game starts. Yes, that was impressive but I doubt that was an intended use in the first few seconds of a round across the map.

Another bad thing is moving in on the enemy, I sometimes find myself in the middle of a spawn fest. Some people declare this as camping but we all know that cod4 spawns are random away from the majority of the enemy team.

Now my solution to this issue is simple, there should be a few seconds where enemy fire cannot kill you the moment you spawn. Again, coming from BF2 I noticed that there is a second or so where you can shoot the enemy the moment they spawn but they will not be damaged. Another thing is they also got to choose where they could spawn (being on the flags that are currently held). If COD4 could implement sections on the map where the player chooses to spawn, it may also cut back on camping spawns or intantly dieing the moment you spawn.

H) Guns Floating

I don't really mind it but it is always weird seeing an AK47 on a wall as if it was a fixed MG. Not really a concern but an area to look into.

Conclusion

I seriously think that these areas need to be looked at, there aim is to improve the over all gameplay and quality online. BF2 IO mode has its issues too, but they also had good features in it to help maintain a fun experience to all players. Though I do doubt that these will be taken seriously by a lone player, but perhaps a community of players can agree to this issues and solutions.

Opinions and thoughts are welcomed,

wow, first, quit bitching about bunny hopping. Just kill them, christ. you only jump like less then half a foot off the ground for god sakes.
Chopters are fine. Martydom does need to be at least reduced a little, but not taken out. The Spawns are fine, other then when on a 50 player server on free for all and on shipment. Prone/Crouch Fire Delay: the reason there is a delay is to have more realism. In Real lfie, you try and fire as you going from prone to crouch. MGs are fine, too. Best way to not get killed by them, avoid them or don't run into them like I bet you do. also, the support weapons are fine as well.

I can't see how you can even ***** about anything that is in CoD4. The other real problem I see with CoD4 is retarded Punkbuster, that is the only real problem I have ever had with CoD4. If you can't kill bunny hoppers, then you suck, seriouly. In CoD4, you only jump about maybe a foot or 2.
I am sorry if I sound like a A-hole, but don't kin-pick a game that doesn't really have that many problems.

[Mavrik347]

A) Reload time makes up for it and if they do that it's so inacurate you can just pop up and shoot them.

B) Nooo way, you are very vulnerable when you fire them, again balancing it out.

C) Seen it rarly but if your aiming at their chest and they jump you will still get them.

D) Never encountered it and it was the most retarded thing EA ever came out with doing that stupid spaz dance evertime you crouch. Anyone who has fires a gun before will tell you, you can go from standing to crouched/prone while firing with reasonable accuracy.

E) I like it mainly, keeps you on your toes. But saying that the only time I've ever been killed by it is when a retarded team mate decided it would be a fantastic idea to run across the open to me and gets killed...

F) I never have a problem with them. I'm an LMG man myself so if I get killed I pull out little Jimmy (my customized M249 SAW that is acurate as hell and super powerful) and in half a mag the chopper is down. You can tell which way the chopper is facing by the minimap or if your on hardcore then slowly move from under cover. If you see the tail first then stay hiding, if you see the belly of the front then get out and give it hell.

Basically when you hear the enemy have called one in. TAKE COVER.

G) Super bad idea. This is what causes havoc in all kinds of games. It a problem you will get in any game tbh. You just need to be on the ball when you spawn and keep near the crouch key and keep moving.

H) Agreed.

Btw EA's fixes are cheap and stupid. I mean budget cut.com - It's just retarded lol.

Just my opinion on your points :)

[Kylee!]

Ha, so its just another person trying to change the ways of the CoD player. We got alllll these people from BF2 and BF2142 saying that "Bunny Hopping" and "Prone Diving" is "teh bad." Now, ask annnyone who ever played CoD2 competitively about that... you get a very different answer.

If you don't want to jump and shoot... then don't, don't start nerfing the game because of something a few people didn't like because it messed up their aim.

I do agree on the mounted MGs and the LMGs though, can't stand em'

Also... the ARs are amazing, I only use an SMG 25% of the time, especially the AK. Why wouldn't you?

[-Shifty-]

@ G

NO WAY IN HELL!!!!! I will not go back to the horrors of Novalogics JOTR!! The people would spawn, and have 7 seconds before they are vulnerable, so they would walk near you and wait till they got the perfect shot.

[imported_Fish]

I'd just like to say that this is a really great game, much like bf2 was when I was hooked on it for the first year or so. But the more I play the more problems I am beginning to see in the game, some minor announances and other things that I find as a big problem. So lets see if you agree or disagree with my points here, I will list bullet point first and then you may choose to scroll down for a detailled reason.

A) Support Weapons (LMG)

B) Fixed MG

C) Bunny Hopping

D) Prone/Crouch Fire Delay

E) Martydom

F) Helicopters

G) Spawns

H) Guns Floating

A) COD4 imo has a more arcade element than BF2 so relistic features are not the upmost concern..

B) Yea they are too powerful and could do with notching it down a little.

C) Bunny Hopping implies to me that you are hopping all over the place like in Bf2 and BF2142, not a single jump in Cod4, because thats all you can really do. Not only that it is very easy to kill someone doing their single jump in cod4 so i dont see the point of fixing something that isnt a problem.

D) You seem to want the so called bunny hopping stopped yet you want to fix prone diving so you can prone dive.. some would say that prone diving is just as lame as bunny hopping..

E) Never use it... easy to combat it, run like hell.. its a perk if you have earned it you earn the right to use it..

F) LOL this one makes me laugh, Most of use come from BF2 where we were owned by Blackhawks, Attack Choopers, Jets, Tanks, Apc`s, Jeeps and artillery, and you moan over a single chopper that can be shot down in no time...

G) This one I actually agree with you... 90% of the time you spawn near the guy who killed you..

H) Insignificant..


There are a few things that can be tweaked but i say leave it as it is.. we all know how all the moaning idiots ruined BF2 & Bf2142 with all the demands for this nerfing and that taken out etc.. you start going down that path and cod4 will not be the game it is now... major changes in future patches could cause even more problems.. remember v1.30!!!

[Soldat]

They should just improve the browser so I can type in say this websites supported COD4 server and just go there.

Plus a half dozen official maps too in the next patch would be good too

[=)BiT(=AutoFodder]

F) LOL this one makes me laugh, Most of use come from BF2 where we were owned by Blackhawks, Attack Choopers, Jets, Tanks, Apc`s, Jeeps and artillery, and you moan over a single chopper that can be shot down in no time...

I would have no problem with the helicopters if they were manned by people (like in BF2), rather than deadly accurate NPC's.

[Kodakk]

In Battlefield 2 you could fight a chopper with a chopper, it was a game of rock paper scissors.
Choppers beat infantry, Jets beat choppers, etc.

In CoD4, you have no AA, you have no helicopter, no jets to help take it out.
You can't throw a smoke to stay safe, nothing!
All you can do is hide, or waste tons of ammo shooting at it.

It's unbalanced, it's all seeing, and it's excessively powerful.

[Keyelite]

It's unbalanced, it's all seeing, and it's excessively powerful.

Not until two or more machine gunners take shots at it between its "firing" sessions.

[imported_Fish]

In Battlefield 2 you could fight a chopper with a chopper, it was a game of rock paper scissors.
Choppers beat infantry, Jets beat choppers, etc..

if that were true then the chopper gunners would be amongst the lowest kdr`s on the stats but you`ll find they are amongst the top on the stats, its easy getting a 70-10 kdr as a chopper gunner, you`ll find that you`ll die far more on BF2 by a chopper than on cod4

In CoD4, you have no AA, you have no helicopter, no jets to help take it out.
You can't throw a smoke to stay safe, nothing!
All you can do is hide, or waste tons of ammo shooting at it.

It's unbalanced, it's all seeing, and it's excessively powerful.

since when did the AA work properly on BF2 lol, no but seriously you had AA because the sky was full of armour.... take Dalian Plant for instance, 4 Attack chooper, 3 transport choppers with side guns and 4 jets, and that was from the start of the game to the end... a full 30-50 minutes air attacks... what do we have in CoD4, 1 single heli now and again.. and when one comes up all it takes is a couple of guys to start shooting at it... you must have played where the chopper has started its run and before you know it its blown up... I get chopper strike quite often, somtimes you get quite a good run for it but most of the time you either get next to nothing or it get blown up early...

[Kodakk]

But you had OPTIONS to take the helo out... even if they didn't work properly.

CoD4 gives you very limited options in taking it down - and having no points for taking it out discourages the majority of people from shooting at it.

[Vasquez]

since when did the AA work properly on BF2 lol, no but seriously you had AA because the sky was full of armour.... take Dalian Plant for instance, 4 Attack chooper, 3 transport choppers with side guns and 4 jets, and that was from the start of the game to the end... a full 30-50 minutes air attacks... what do we have in CoD4, 1 single heli now and again.. and when one comes up all it takes is a couple of guys to start shooting at it... you must have played where the chopper has started its run and before you know it its blown up... I get chopper strike quite often, somtimes you get quite a good run for it but most of the time you either get next to nothing or it get blown up early...

1 single heli, yeah. But this is AI pin-point accuracy. Shoot the **** off a rat accuracy. A human in a BF2 chopper is a different kettle of fish. Jeez, you could shot the gunners. You have no such perogative in COD4 except to unload your magazine in to the thing whilst getting shot at by the other side on a far smaller map.

It's great when it's on your side.
When it's not, it's your mother-in-law in a coke-fuelled binge-drink *****-fest.

[imported_Fish]

since my last post at 7.18pm I`ve been playing on our hardcore server, thats about 4 hours of play and I counted how many times i was killed by a chopper... the answer is 3, and i wasnt hiding every time they came out i did a bit of dodging about and shooting them down with good success, as for shooting a pilot /gunner from a chopper in bf2, you have more chance to blow the chopper up in cod4 with your desert eagle..

dont get me wrong, I`m not saying that the helichopter is a good thing or bad thing.. my post was about the comparison between bf2 and cod4.

wouldnt it be ironic if most of the people who didnt like the choppers in cod4 were ex-bf2 attack chopper gunners.. lol