Making martyrdom a little more fairer.

[Repulse]

Just posted this over at the official IW forums. Couldn't set up a poll over there so thought I would give it a go here as well :-D. If you would like to comment in the thread over at the IW forums you can find it here.

I along with many other players in the CoD4 community find martyrdom to be a pain in the backside whilst playing on a public server.

I have an idea that could make this nuisance of a perk a little more bearable.

Whether you agree or disagree please post your support in this thread so the developers can take this suggestion into consideration some time in the near future!

So this is my suggestions, I'll keep it short and sweet :).

Suggestion: If a player wishes to use the martyrdom perk then instead of adding the unusable grenade to their inventory where it only becomes of use when they die, make it use so that they use a grenade that they could have used otherwise. What this basically means is that if they decide to use up the grenades they have in their inventory then they use up the grenade that would have been used for martyrdom. This could either mean that you add another grenade so they have two to use but when they die only one detonates (unless they have already used both of them) or it could mean you keep it as one grenade but if they use it then they will not drop one when they die.

Please people post your suggestions/disagreements/agreements in this thread and poll and maybe the lovely people at InfinityWard would look into it a little more .

[ThQp]

Good idea Repulse. +1 approval.

[BigFeet]

That certainly makes sense.

[Keyelite]

They do something similar to LAST STAND. You must have a pistol ready or you die instantly. Not sure why its not like that with martyrdom

[L3adcannon]

Voted no. That`s like saying, if you use stopping power, for every bullet you waste 2 instead.
It`s a perk, not an alternative way of using your nade or who knows what, a perk. Doing that would remove the whole point of it being a perk. Besides, whoever chooses martydrom already gives up other good perks in the same tier.

[=)BiT(=BlackMage]

They do something similar to LAST STAND. You must have a pistol ready or you die instantly. Not sure why its not like that with martyrdom

Actually, if you don't have a pistol, Last Stand gives you an M9.

I would like to see this, along with the Martyrdom grenade being the same as a regular grenade in terms of fuze and blast radius.

[Ghiblian]

Why is Martyrdom so annoying? I haven't played very much, but I've never really had a problem with it when I've encountered it.

[Iwantcable]

Martyrdom should drop a flash.

[Kodakk]

That was exactly my idea Repulse (no joke)! lol

Good idea though :)

[TheLeper]

easily avoided but lets not start a flame war

lets play your idea, can only use martyrdom if you have a grenade available so i have say 3 grenades can i spill out all 3?? or maybe detonate my c4 if i dont have a grenade as the idea is to blow yourself up isnt it?

flash/stun grenade martyrdom would be fun aswell, though the idea of dropping everything carried would also be fun

[Repulse]

Voted no. That`s like saying, if you use stopping power, for every bullet you waste 2 instead.
It`s a perk, not an alternative way of using your nade or who knows what, a perk. Doing that would remove the whole point of it being a perk. Besides, whoever chooses martydrom already gives up other good perks in the same tier.

Upgrades are available in real life for weapons to increase the rate of fire, martyrdom just drops a grenade that never really existed, theres no option to arm yourself with two grenades is there? in theory this is what martyrdom does.

Why is Martyrdom so annoying? I haven't played very much, but I've never really had a problem with it when I've encountered it.

The first few times you just take it in your stride, but after a while it becomes a joke. I have no problem with dying by a grenade, and I love killing with them, problem is, in my opinion martyrdom requires no skill what so ever, I refuse to use it!

That was exactly my idea Repulse (no joke)! lol

Good idea though :)

Yea been thinking about it for some time, only today decided to post it . I think quite a few other people have been thinking along the same lines.

easily avoided but lets not start a flame war

lets play your idea, can only use martyrdom if you have a grenade available so i have say 3 grenades can i spill out all 3?? or maybe detonate my c4 if i dont have a grenade as the idea is to blow yourself up isnt it?

flash/stun grenade martyrdom would be fun aswell, though the idea of dropping everything carried would also be fun

In your dying moments your not going to have enough time to go and pull out the pins of every grenade your carrying, so your attempt of being sarcastic there (thats how I read that) was in my opinion unsuccessful .

[TheLeper]

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In your dying moments your not going to have enough time to go and pull out the pins of every grenade your carrying, so your attempt of being sarcastic there (thats how I read that) was in my opinion unsuccessful .

lol but your forgetting about that fantastic chain thing thats tied through all the pins that does the work for you that I have seen mentioned before in many of these omg martyrdom noob! threads

ohwell

either way the games great as it is, we just need more maps, some new tech weapons and please please please bring back the m1 garand

[imported_Whiskey]

...but lets not start a flame war

I agree. With no offense meant to the original poster, we've been over this before in several threads, some of which have become quite heated (I think one or two have even been locked).

Nothing wrong with debate, especially for those new to these forums who didn't see or search for the other threads, but I just hope folks are able to simply state their case, either pro or con, without getting nasty about it and insulting each other.

My own opinion is that both Last Stand and Martyrdom should only function if you have pistol ammunition or at least 1 frag grenade remaining, to better simulate reality.

[mybulleturface]

This was said a lot way before once the game first came out. why dont they make they nade time of marty the same as a nade that u just thrown . So marty takes 5.0 or less like 4 instead of 2.5 secs to blow up.

makes sense......
but one voice dont mean anything

[Micster]

Good idea.

But what about x3 Frags?