Fire rate change via mouse script

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  • FPS[SONIC]
    Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 2106

    #46
    I hear a lot of justifications flying. I think that we're on to a 'slippery-slope' subject here. The game plays fine as the devs released it. I love the G3 as a semi-automatic rifle and it was made that way in this game for balance reasons.

    If we take it upon ourselves to change the way things work in the game, we are changing the intended game play and balance of weapons/perks/equipment.

    How much futher away is the logic, "I installed the hax to make the game play better on my computer ... after all, I'm not dominating the game with my hax, just making MP more fun for myself"? Not too far away, is it?

    IMO, script use has no place in MP gaming.

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    • jackal22
      Member
      • Jul 2007
      • 515

      #47
      the point is though its quicker to press left mouse fire 3 times then use the script, therefore you gain no advantage but perhaps less arthritus in your trigger finger when your old...

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      • TSlaw*

        #48
        Originally posted by =MNKY=Frosty
        TBH Any software, hardware, script or hack that changes the way the game is meant to run is unfair. Auto clickers and all that. Soon everyone will have auto clickers using the g3 on full auto and then soon enough all semi auto weapons will be auto firing and then the game will be completely un-balanced. The game is set up perfectly, anything that effects the balance of the guns or the game is wrong.
        /clap

        YAY!! :yay::yay::yay::yay::yay::yay::yay:


        Originally posted by SonicPixel
        IMO, script use has no place in MP gaming.
        But I liked throwing RDX and blowing it in the air...

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        • Sloi sauce

          #49
          Originally posted by jackal22
          LISTEN TEST RESULTS

          tested online, normal servers:

          1. Rate of fire is THE SAME if not slower then scroll wheel up down up

          2. Buggy as hell since if you press fire 3 times on burst you cannot interupt fire

          3. More RECOIL then scroll wheel method

          4. NO AUTO for single shot guns, (only burst is available for single shot weapons)
          Depends on the script. (Though you may be right about that one, as I have no experience with it...)

          You can make one to fire continuously at a specific rate until the player depresses the mouse button: that makes it fully controllable, accurate and useful for CQC.

          It's similar to the "no recoil" scripts people made for CS 1.5/1.6: we're just talking about a few text commands executed by the engine or your own kb, mouse or software.

          I hope IW patches out the ability to use non-expected keys and buttons to specific actions: when they do that, I'll back down. :)

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          • Maze =]

            #50
            Originally posted by The_Eliminator
            Voss = P90

            i mean Stay on TOPIC!

            :p
            Voss = M4 Carbine :salute:

            What I think if you use any thing to change the game,you are a cheater,whatever it is legal or illegal.

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            • Sloi sauce

              #51
              By definition, if it's legal, there's no problem. I suggest you re-think your post, Maze. :)

              The big debate with scripts and macros is where we place them in the gray area: depending on how you categorize them and define your terms, they might well be legal (as is the case with certain macros popularly used in TWL) or banned from public/league play.

              It's not as clear cut as some of you make it out to be. If you think it's black and white, remember: it's along the highway, not across the street. kthxbai <3

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              • The_Eliminator
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2006
                • 5486

                #52
                Originally posted by m3ow
                Last thing im saying, and this is this.

                If this is illegal which it is not, then why does PB not ban for it? Nor ask CODFiles.com to remove it? Why don;t they? Because its not illegal, maybe in matches and CEVO and CAL, but for some pubbing, screw those n00bies
                since when does PB ban anyone :laugh:

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                • TheDesert_Fox

                  #53
                  I think scripts are fine, personally. Don't have any myself, but I think there are far worse things to worry about. If anything it's helpful having your enemies willing restrict themselves to burst fire which is often used to nerf full auto guns. With semi auto there's already the scroll wheel thing / fast clicking, so why care?

                  And @ Eliminator, the Voss is better. Don't you know that a gun requiring skill is uncool?

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                  • -Spartan`II7^

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Maze =]
                    Voss = M4 Carbine :salute:
                    QFT, everyone is moaning about the P90, while you actually have to control some reco9il over range with it. Such a thing as recoil is non existant with the M4. Zoom, point, hold mouse button down.

                    Reminds me more of the voss than the P90 with weak bullets, long reload times and recoil.

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                    • PREDATOR-SK

                      #55
                      My definition of cheating in games is if you add/use something that was not originally in the game to give you an advantage over another player so i would call this cheating.

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                      • Sloi sauce

                        #56
                        Originally posted by PREDATOR-SK
                        My definition of cheating in games is if you add/use something that was not originally in the game to give you an advantage over another player so i would call this cheating.
                        Are you saying that people who use G15 keyboards (among other peripheral devices) to automatize certain actions in games like Starcraft and WoW are cheating? Be careful, it's quite slippery here...

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                        • wenZECA

                          #57
                          Did some testing, and it drastically improved the ease of killing and my score.

                          Here is a pic using burst fire mode. On the left is unzoomed, right is zoomed. As you can see spamming 3 bullets from that range is guaranteed kill, and since you only have to click once it's WAY easier.

                          Personally I wont use this because in my eyes if it gives you an advantage over another player it is an exploit and you are a nub in need of artificial help to help you get kills.



                          Play the game as it was intended. Say no to dru-.. I mean hax. Drugs are fine.

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                          • PREDATOR-SK

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Sloi
                            Are you saying that people who use G15 keyboards (among other peripheral devices) to automatize certain actions in games like Starcraft and WoW are cheating? Be careful, it's quite slippery here...
                            People have been banned for cheating using that keyboard in wow for using automated macros which is an advantage over other people so yes it cheating.
                            Join thousands of mighty heroes in Azeroth, a world of magic and limitless adventure.

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                            • Vreki
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 4226

                              #59
                              Originally posted by PREDATOR-SK
                              People have been banned for cheating using that keyboard in wow for using automated macros which is an advantage over other people so yes it cheating.
                              http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread....201989&sid=1#0
                              Thats not quite what your link says:

                              Recently, players expressed some concern over the use of programmable gaming peripherals while playing World of Warcraft. We want to make sure it's clear that creating hotkeys for certain actions in the game is ok. However, if these peripherals are used to automate gameplay to the point where the player is able to conduct repeated actions in the game without paying attention, then that will constitute a violation of our game policies
                              As far as I remember WOW actually comes with a dedicate macro language, so its not a case of "all macros are bad". In FPS terms it would be aimbots they are going after.

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                              • [DBD]Code_Black

                                #60
                                Well personally I don't think anyone should change anything about the gameplay. The G3 can own on single shot. I've used it in CQC and long distances. You people are just looking for a way not to play the game as it was meant to be played. The G3 was intended as a semi-automatic weapon, and that is how it should stay.

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