What does it take to make a successful server?

[Dairuka]

Re: What does it take to make a successful server?

It is truly amazing how people will ignore facts or let bad past experiences color their perspective.

If I were a shop-owner, and I treated my customer's badly, would I be justified in complaining that they're the ones being ignorant? No.

Sydus, if you are going to spout off about dA! members hacking and how you miraculously saved the day at least make sure the idiots you are talking about are dA! members. But thanks for providing the screenshots.

Wasn't it originally, dA| Illusion and then dA¦ Illuzion

Oh yes, it was. Didn't he get MBL'ed and reset for multi-hacking, and then blame it on 'selling his account on e-bay?'

Oh yes, he did.

Yes, it is true that we kick so dA! members can get the key vehicles. Most players suck and don't actually contribute to the team.

Kind of like the typical dA! member. Luckily the guys in power treat the lackies of dA! as poorly as you do the public newbies on your server, so at least you losers can say you treat 'everybody' the same way.

We (dA!) communicate via ventrilo so it’s easy to maneuver key vehicles to strategic points. And, for the most part, members enjoy using vehicles. What most of you don’t realize is that we sacrifice what we want for the good of the team.

Yes of course, team-stacking, wall-hacking, aimbotting, spawn raping, wall-glitching, M95'ing, and admin abuse, all in the name of the team!

For example, I love to gun in choppers but I suck at it so if another dA! member is on and is better than I am I will gladly fly or just step out of the way.

More like you know your place, and won't dare to stand up to Illusion should he want the Helicopter you're in. :laugh:

Talk about taking a gestapo boot up the butt for a cause that isn't your own.

We do not kick people from the other team unless it is deserved. If you want to fly a jet or chopper or get in armor go to the other team. Reasons we kick people from the other team; going solo in a chopper when the server is full/almost full, ramming, fighting while commanding, raping an uncap before getting most/all flags.

Of course! Play on the other team so you can be spawn raped by the all powerful dA! clan! They'll ban you if your K/D is above 2:1, because obviously if you've managed to get that far against the all powerful dA! clan, you're hacking.

Even if you haven't said a single word, you'll be banned for 'abusing the admins.' Apparently admin abuse consists of killing them three times in a row.

If any dA! member was hacking don’t you think he/she would have been caught? Claims that dA! members hack are actually quite funny and I would challenge any of you to prove it. It is funny how people that get repeatedly owned (sorry I don’t use “gamer” jargon) always claim someone is hacking.

Illusion was caught. Twice in fact. He was even in the Top 10, before he was reset for his cheating ways.

Feel free to flame this as well but really if you are going to throw libelous claims around at least try to prove your allegations.

So does your server stream Punkbuster and it's Master Ban List or not?

Yes, it’s true, we are sick of people coming in our forums complaining about being banned and for some reason believing the ******** they are spouting will be accepted as truth without verification. People get banned for a reason and usually leave out critical information when asking to be unbanned. In fact, the people that were abusing their ban responsibilities no longer have that power.

The mass majority of replies from your members has been, "You're a jerk, so we're keeping you banned. Pay us $15 and we'll unban you."

The rest of the replies from your members has been, "*Bleep* Off."

Say what you want about illusion but I guarantee you that if you played one round with him you would understand that he is not hacking, he is just that much better than everyone else.

His downloadable skill certainly is awe inspiring.

He may have been reset or pb’ed or whatever but he is an excellent admin, player and friend.

You just contradicted yourself in your own thread.

You said earlier that we had the burden of proof to prove that your clan hacks, and then you go on to publicly admit that your clan leader was reset and Punkbusted.

Oh wait. He may have been punkbusted. Very nice use of Doublespeak.

So yes, if you attack him you attack all of us. From what I saw he was simply trying to help get a new server up and running; which he has done repeatedly for free. Maybe a quick “thanks for the info” or “thanks for contributing” would be appropriate. Instead many of you take a chance to jump on someone for something you know nothing about.

This has been an ongoing issue for the past year, if not more - we all know about the train accident that the dA! server is. We're just doing our part to make sure that other people know too.

If we manage to save even one soul from entering your server; our job is done.

Lastly, I don’t remember which moron wrote it but someone suggested that they know more about the dA! members than even illusion does; that is just ridiculous. BTW, your mom is calling and you’re late for dinner.

Personal attacks are against the rules of this forum.

p.s. my official ea user name is Tiglath as well. Fell free to rpeort me for hacking or stat padding. Also, I play Friday nights after 10 cst, Saturday nights after 11 cst and Sunday nights after 10 cst. If you think you are that good feel free to come in and test the waters or you can use this as an opportunity to catch me doing something wrong.:laugh:

Feel free to leave your protective cocoon at anytime.

[Ireeesh!]

Re: What does it take to make a successful server?

lol i just read this thread

i went to those forum links and couldnt stop laughing at this guy ireeeesh or something, he slags one bloke off for not helping the team and if you look at his stats in his siggy he only has 8000 teamwork points, what a joke he and his 'clan' are.

that's because what you don't see is all the teamkills i do on a regular basis because im an *******..

And if your paying attention that close ....Please learn how to spell my name properly...

Yes of course, team-stacking, wall-hacking, aimbotting, spawn raping, wall-glitching, M95'ing, and admin abuse, all in the name of the team!

Man i wish i hacked....because if i did...I wouldnt be wondering when i would be getting my next damn rank.....


I just want to know where you think your prove lies that the whole clan hacks....

I see like 2 actual dA! names on that list....there are over 35 clan members.....

OH CRAP 2 out of 35! OMG THE WHOLE CLAN HACKS

Let me ask you this ....everytime you kick someone out of any of your servers...do you put that correct reason behind it ......I doubt it ...

SO he got reset ...oh well...

To me Illuzion is like Bill Clinton....
He is a good leader but makes human mistakes....
Except he didnt have monica lewinski put a cigar up her cooter for him

[Tiglath]

Re: What does it take to make a successful server?

If I were a shop-owner, and I treated my customer's badly, would I be justified in complaining that they're the ones being ignorant? No.

It does not take long, even for a marginally intelligent person, to figure out the rules.

Kind of like the typical dA! member. Luckily the guys in power treat the lackeys of dA! as poorly as you do the public newbie’s on your server, so at least you losers can say you treat 'everybody' the same way.

If I decided I wanted a vehicle I would not have to give it up to anyone. I chose to for the benefit of the team. "the guys in power" treat everyone the same and often spend a majority of their time helping new members become better players.

Yes of course, team-stacking, wall-hacking, aim-botting, spawn raping, wall-glitching, M95'ing, and admin abuse, all in the name of the team!

Ahh, here is the crux of the problem. You think we should divide up the clan so we fight each other for your benefit. We (dA!) member join the clan, in part, so we can play the game people we know and trust. We are not here to make the game more fun for you. We are here because we enjoy playing BF2 as a team.
We frequently move better players from our team to the other team. Again, if you do not believe that ask the nunya and xfi players. As far as your other allegations, if we are breaking the rules it should be relatively easy to prove. Feel free to do so. No, do not site old news.

More like you know your place, and won't dare to stand up to Illusion should he want the Helicopter you're in. :laugh:

Talk about taking a Gestapo boot up the butt for a cause that isn't your own.

I know my place is in the air and I also know that if there is an issue I can take it up with any of the founders and the issue will be resolved. Do you even know illusion or do you just randomly attack people?

Of course! Play on the other team so you can be spawn raped by the all powerful dA! clan! They'll ban you if your K/D is above 2:1, because obviously if you've managed to get that far against the all powerful dA! clan, you're hacking.

Even if you haven't said a single word, you'll be banned for 'abusing the admins.' Apparently admin abuse consists of killing them three times in a row.

You are obviously speaking from your vast experience playing on our server. That is truly funny since I have never seen you on the server. Oh wait, maybe you do not use that name.

Illusion was caught; twice in fact. He was even in the Top 10, before he was reset for his cheating ways.

So does your server stream Punkbuster and it's Master Ban List or not?

Actually, he was #12. We are a ranked server so as far as I know it does. I wish I could be more informative but I know very little about computers. I play the game because my son had it and I wanted to make sure the online play and in-game communication was not being used in an inappropriate way. It was, so I found a clan that is fun and respectful to members.

The mass majority of replies from your members have been, "You're a jerk, so we're keeping you banned. Pay us $15 and we'll unban you."

The rest of the replies from your members has been, "*Bleep* Off."

I'll refer to my previous post: a majority of the banned players that post simply forget to put in the real reason why they were banned and then attack the person who banned them. If they were to come into my home and do that to my family it would not be tolerated and the consequences would be severe. Why should it be any different on our forums?

No, not all replies are well thought out. It's a work in progress. Neither are all the messages on this forum. Fix your home before you try to fix mine.

The reference to the $15 is for the monthly fee. It does not cost $15 to get unbanned but if you are a member you cannot be banned. Again, this is a good example of a bitter person taking something completely out of context to try to prove an invalid point.

His downloadable skill certainly is awe inspiring.

Again, prove it. Do not site past issues. Find new ones if he is still hacking. Not to mention, there are many people that do not like illusion for one reason or another so if he was currently doing anything he would be caught.

You just contradicted yourself in your own thread.

You said earlier that we had the burden of proof to prove that your clan hacks, and then you go on to publicly admit that your clan leader was reset and Punkbusted.

Oh wait. He may have been punkbusted. Very nice use of Doublespeak.

I did not contradict anything. I acknowledged he was reset before but have laid the burden of proof on you for current events. No one said "he did something wrong in the past" everything was referred to as ongoing. Again, if you are going to throw around accusations prove it.

Personal attacks are against the rules of this forum.

You should read some of your responses before pointing any fingers. You refer to the founding members of dA! as the "Gestapo". While you may have been around during the height of the Gestapo I doubt you have any proof that our founding members are mass murderers. Understand what you are typing before posting.

Feel free to leave your protective cocoon at anytime.

I spend at least half my time in other servers. It reminds me of why I joined the dA! clan.
I enjoy finding the servers with pilots that have excellent k/d stats and flying against them. Nothing beats the experience of 1st to jet = 1st one tk'd, or the experience of 5 players standing around waiting for the jet/chopper/tank to spawn.

On what server do you play? I would be happy to stop by and play.

BTW, I edited your post for misspellings and poor use of punctuation.

[Ireeesh!]

Re: What does it take to make a successful server?

I think every one is entitled to their opinions as long as they have proof of the things that they are accusing people of ...

Get your proof and get back to us ...

[Dairuka]

Re: What does it take to make a successful server?

I just want to know where you think your prove lies that the whole clan hacks...

I see like 2 actual dA! names on that list....there are over 35 clan members.....

OH CRAP 2 out of 35! OMG THE WHOLE CLAN HACKS

And they're still in the clan.

So much for any semblance of credibility from dA!

SO he got reset ...oh well...

Yeah, so he only cheated up to the #12 position on the ladder. So what? It's not as if he didn't ruin anybody else's fun in his pursuit of personal glory through unfair means.

Wait. He did? Oh, nice guy. He certainly is a great role model. Hes the Barry Bonds of BF2.

It does not take long, even for a marginally intelligent person, to figure out the rules.

It's hard to follow ever evolving rules that can be twisted, mangled and distorted to fit even the most myopic vision. dA!'s rule set is not list of guidelines, but rather a bundle of excuses for their admins on that server to press a ban button on someone they don't like.

The reference to the $15 is for the monthly fee. It does not cost $15 to get unbanned but if you are a member you cannot be banned. Again, this is a good example of a bitter person taking something completely out of context to try to prove an invalid point.

Thankfully I don't have to speak for myself, since there are hundreds of people who all have their own personal experiences with dA!'s poor administration.

Again, prove it. Do not site past issues. Find new ones if he is still hacking. Not to mention, there are many people that do not like illusion for one reason or another so if he was currently doing anything he would be caught.

I did not contradict anything. I acknowledged he was reset before but have laid the burden of proof on you for current events. No one said "he did something wrong in the past" everything was referred to as ongoing. Again, if you are going to throw around accusations prove it.

So you admit that he hacked before?

Thank you, you have been most helpful. I shall refer to this thread every-time Illusion denies his shady past, and most likely shady present.

You should read some of your responses before pointing any fingers. You refer to the founding members of dA! as the "Gestapo". While you may have been around during the height of the Gestapo I doubt you have any proof that our founding members are mass murderers. Understand what you are typing before posting.

Gestapo was more of a reference to the stringent police actions taken by a totalitarian government. A comparison which I, as well as many others feel is very relevant to the current subject.

On what server do you play? I would be happy to stop by and play.

Lately I've been playing on the ERR clan servers. Thats where you'll most likely find me.

BTW, I edited your post for misspellings and poor use of punctuation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammar_nazi

[imported_illuzion]

Re: What does it take to make a successful server?

It is simply hilarious how people like dorka and suck litterally spend half the day or more looking at the totalbf2 forums waiting for someone to post about dA so they can attempt to bring us down...We cant be brought down son...

[Dairuka]

Re: What does it take to make a successful server?

It is simply hilarious how people like dorka and suck litterally spend half the day or more looking at the totalbf2 forums waiting for someone to post about dA so they can attempt to bring us down...We cant be brought down son...

The rock can't be brought down further than it already is...

Unless you throw it into the ocean.

[Tiglath]

Re: What does it take to make a successful server?

It's hard to follow ever evolving rules that can be twisted, mangled and distorted to fit even the most myopic vision. dA!'s rule set is not list of guidelines, but rather a bundle of excuses for their admins on that server to press a ban button on someone they don't like.

Thankfully I don't have to speak for myself, since there are hundreds of people who all have their own personal experiences with dA!'s poor administration.

On what server are you an admin?

I forgot, it's better to let 5 idiots stand around waiting in line, or not, for a vehicle; all of whom have formed and locked a squad, great teamwork there. Get your story straight, we do not ban unless it is deserved, we kick. I was kicked from the dA! server 81 times before I joined the clan. I thought it was funny. I was never once banned even though there were several times I verbally abused a couple of members.

It's simple; we strongly encourage team play and teamwork. We do let non-dA! members on our team use strategic vehicles if 1) they know what they are doing and 2) they have a headset w/mic and they use it.

For the record, I and other admins have kicked idiots, unskilled players from the other team so a more skilled person can use said vehicle. No, we are not afraid of the competition; in fact, we embrace it. We move people to the other team to keep the competition as close as possible. We will not, under any circumstances, play against each other.

So you admit that he hacked before?

Thank you, you have been most helpful. I shall refer to this thread every-time Illusion denies his shady past, and most likely shady present.

Wow, you either have a problem with reading comprehension or you just choose to ignore my comments and again try to take something out of context to prove an invalid point. I did not say he hacked, I said he was reset. Big difference.

Gestapo was more of a reference to the stringent police actions taken by a totalitarian government. A comparison which I, as well as many others feel is very relevant to the current subject.

My suggestion would be to talk to someone who lived through the Nazi era before you start throwing around Nazi references. At least visit the holocaust museum in Washington D.C. There is a difference between stringent police actions and the Gestapo. Think of what we do as rendition. Use that wikpedia knowledge and dig a little deeper.

Also, I am glad you currently have a group of people with you that have given you permission to speak for them. That's impressive.
I have no problem if you do not like the way we run our server but make sure you stick to the facts and if you do not like it don't play there. It is obvious you have not spent any time on our server as you are spewing out the same misinformed gibberish that I have seen from other misinformed people. We have plenty of happy pub players. The funny thing about all the complaining is that we do what many other servers do; we just admit it and give pub players a place to voice their complaints. Bad us!

Lately I've been playing on the ERR clan servers. Thats where you'll most likely find me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammar_nazi

I'll put them in my favorites. You are welcome to continue this string but this will be my last post. I'll have my tag on and this is my ingame name.
The premise for our respective arguments is fundamentally opposite so there can be no resolution. My sole desire would be to see any arguments about dA! be based on fact, not conjecture and hearsay.
dA!, for the most part, is made up of type A personalities. We hate to lose and we do not see any reason why we should help the other team win. We have, however, sat on the sidelines and watched when the teams became lop-sided. I can only speak for myself on this one but I can assure anyone who reads this that I have never entered a competition, stated or otherwise, with the desire to finish 2nd. I play, fight and work to win and I really don't care if I hurt your feelings along the way.

As far as your grammar Nazi comment, I admit it; I can't stand ignorant people who think spelling and grammar are not necessary while on the internet. That and chewing with your mouth open. Both are incredibly annoying.

Question: Do you think Robin Hood was good or bad, and why?

The rock can't be brought down further than it already is...

Unless you throw it into the ocean.

ummmm.....you might want to check your facts. Our server is ranked 6th in the world.

If that commnet was in regard to illusion then hop on our vent server and talk to him or any of us. It might help to have an informed, educated opinion instead of spreading gossip.

[Dairuka]

Re: What does it take to make a successful server?

Illusion987: Dairuka, you spend too much time digging up dirt. Stop digging up dirt!

Tiglath: Dairuka, you spend too little time digging up dirt. Come dig up some dirt!

Which is it boys?

[Chris_Redfield]

Re: What does it take to make a successful server?

LOL. I dont even have to say anything, which is a first.

EDIT: If anyone has any doubts about whos right and whos wrong, go to dA!s forums and check any thread in the banned/unbanned section.

[goochball]

Re: What does it take to make a successful server?

JHubs, I'm truly sorry that your thread was hijacked by all these mean people.

So you want to know: "What does it take to make a successful server?".

I can tell you, but you're not going to like it.


It's pretty simple actually. All you have do is start kicking/banning random noobs that join your server. Eventually, people start coming to your forums to make threads like "OMFG Admin Abuse!". When this happens, just respond with something like:

"LOL! It's my server I do whatever I want." (You can even set up a bot to do this for you if you know how)

IMPORTANT: Don't forget the "LOL!" part. Noobs get really mad when you laugh in their face and this will force them to take it to the next level.

THE NEXT LEVEL:

Once this person is angry, he will most likely go on a noobie rampage. During this rampage, he will not eat or sleep for up 4 days while he posts negative comments about you and your server on as many BF2 websites as he can find. At first, this will seem like a bad thing. Trust me, it is not...do you wan't to know why?

Easy. These hate threads can get upwards of 1000 views each. Most of these viewers end up joining your server to see for themselves. The best part is...alot of these people end up having a good time on your server and they add it to their favorites. The people who don't like it usually go on to make a new hate thread. It is a never ending cycle that will keep your server populated.

Think of it as free advertising. Pretty cool huh?

Soon you will have many people spending hours of their day thinking about you and your server...kinda like that Dairuka character.

It is quite flattering


GOOD LUCK TO YOU JHubs! :salute:

[Chris_Redfield]

Re: What does it take to make a successful server?

Only... youll always be remembered as tards and the only respect you get is from wannabe <14 year olds who want to be in the "kool rebel gang of the intranet world". To me, its a mystery, how can older folks even condisder being a part of such a community. How can you justify paying money on the net to be an ******* first grade? You just cant...

[goochball]

Re: What does it take to make a successful server?

Only... youll always be remembered as tards and the only respect you get is from wannabe <14 year olds who want to be in the "kool rebel gang of the intranet world". To me, its a mystery, how can older folks even condisder being a part of such a community. How can you justify paying money on the net to be an ******* first grade? You just cant...

...LOL!

[L3adcannon]

Re: What does it take to make a successful server?

Illusion987: Dairuka, you spend too much time digging up dirt. Stop digging up dirt!

Tiglath: Dairuka, you spend too little time digging up dirt. Come dig up some dirt!

Which is it boys?

Tiglath was obviously sarcastic, taunting there while Illusion wasn`t. The which is it Q kinda fails.


I`ve never met a dA member in my life nor have I heared about them so I still take the whole thread with a little bit of salt.

[DA! wavace]

Re: What does it take to make a successful server?

This thread is so damn funny, I would read one post and think"hm, i need to quote that one and laugh at him." Then I would read another , then another, then.... well , you get the picture, until there was just too many criers to laugh at in this one thread. I love the picture of someone showing proof that DA hax, and the tags arent even correct, that was priceless.
What it comes down to is that some of you came to our server and didnt read the server rules and if you did you went and did what you wanted to anyway and when you violated a server rule, you were dealt with. If I came to your server and began violating server rules I would expect the same thing to happen. If you dont like the server .....DONT PLAY! ROFL. Your worship given to the clan only makes my balls smile, I assure you. I mean damn we must have the worst server in the world especially since we are what, number 6? 7? I mean I guess the rest of the world has it all wrong huh>?