Teh l33tnes$

[Elxx]

Re: Teh l33tnes$

Thank you for taking the time to download Awoken Eyes. I don't have a personal vendetta against anyone in Sir, or the entire community, but I am tired of the self-promoted fame.

Self-promoted? What, we released some movies that were popular so now we're evil? It's hardly self-promoted. We don't spend a dime on advertising. Sorry to gloat, but we just took part in producing a Northern Strike trailer for EA/Dice. You really can't go much higher than that in the Battlefield community. I think it gives us at least some rights to brag, but as I said before we try not to be assholes about it.

Movies such as Operation: Burning Sands, to me, was very disappointing. You get a sentence of what seems to be a story, and then 10 minutes of random content. The story doesn't build at all.

Finally, thanks! I've heard that from other people too. If you check the credits, the storyline (or lack thereof) was not done by Sir. members, it was some other clan and we produced it for them. I suggest you watch one of the more recent shorts we've done, such as The Jump Program and the Top Gear Parody. If you look really really hard and maybe ignore the fact that they're made by the evil Sir. Community, you may notice storylines lurking within those two

My opinion? I don't see the point in making a movie out of video game that follows a story, but if you're gonna do it, you might as well do it right. I enjoy series/skit machinima with a comedic flare(P.A.N.I.C.S., Red vs Blue, The Pwned Life, Mine 1/2).

I could say that in order to do a frag movie "right", it would have to have purple rabbits, but I'm not going to insult anyone else's efforts simply because they don't have what I like.

I don't need the entire Sir. Community breathing down my neck with their opinionated ********. Have a nice, day. I hope you'll learn to live with other peoples' views.

Entire? I see that three Sir. members have posted here. Check the member list, it would take a few more pages if everybody decided to post. And they don't, because we're not the gang that you're trying to make us appear to be.

Having you stomp away like a drama queen as you whine about the Sir. Community bullying you will not be tolerated. THAT is the true "opinionated ********" right there. Get the facts next time.

[aLi3nZ]

Re: Teh l33tnes$

Sir movies are great, ignore this lamer he is not worth your time.

[Rock_FU]

Re: Teh l33tnes$

That video Monkman posted of the COD2 frags was the best editing I have seen in a frag movie, I cant believe I watched all 16 mins of it and I dont even play that game. Some of those guys have amazing reflexes.

very nice indeed.

[Guest]

Re: Teh l33tnes$

I like the Sir. Community, and their videos.

I tend to think that most frag videos are boring, because they have poor editing, and poor content. But not all, that Frag video about Call of duty that someone posted was completely awesome from my point of view.

I do think people should criticize videos that are released to the public. This is a crucial step in making people better at what they do. Say, for example, someone makes a video of one complete round of karkand infantry only. No editing, just completely like you yourself were playing, and nobody said, "Wow, that sucks, edit it to show clips." Imagine how bad the standard would be .... (this is just an extreme example)

I also think it's funny how, when in a forum "discussion" people type grammatically correct sentences and paragraphs. As opposed to lol, wtf, kewl, lawl, etc.

Basically, yeah.

Oh, and about the Sir's being gods ...

it's kinda like people from other countries hating USA, because we are the super power. The role-models if you will.

That's how I think of it.

I didn't like awoken eyes though. Maybe it was the cs graphics, or the 5 minute intro with mostly 3d logos.

Thank you.

[Sir. tehdude]

Re: Teh l33tnes$

Pfffft, Spokane doesn't have mountains. :p

Who says I'm in the mountains??

[proto]

Re: Teh l33tnes$

I like how you didn't quote my paragraph about what my TRUE point was about. But all is fair in love and war.

[Chris_Redfield]

Re: Teh l33tnes$

Tards?? save the name calling for your little friends. This is JUST ANOTHER BORING FRAG MOVIE like all the other boring FRAG videos. Another "look at me I'm good" movie. WHO FRIGGING CARES??

Obviously you are easily amused.

Contrary to the popular belief, frag movies, if done well, deliver just what the doctor ordered. An educational, entertaining look into someones skill. Frag videos are by far my favourites.

Whats boring in a frag video? The same thing thats boring in a boring "fun video".

I just stayed neutral and didnt check the two full pages to see the flamewar. Its excellent to see that the emotions I had before I started to post, aimed towards the Sir Communities 1337 behaviour was partially justified, but I figured it was only one bad apple in the bunch.

In the bulk of videos youve produced gentlemen, probably ONLY the TOP GEAR was really good for me. So before you start accusing of "frag videos" being boring, take a look at your own... ... stuff...

[proto]

Re: Teh l33tnes$

In the bulk of videos youve produced gentlemen, probably ONLY the TOP GEAR was really good for me. So before you start accusing of "frag videos" being boring, take a look at your own... ... stuff...

I agree, Top Gear was the only well made Sir. film. It almost makes up for everything else...almost...almost...

[-Shifty-]

Re: Teh l33tnes$

The one shot one kill with the SVD is how it should be used...you could get like 10 kills...in CQB or long range with that, once you've masterd it, you can use it exactly like the RPK with 1S1K* in CQB, if I knew how to make vids I'd show ya, it's so fun....!


* 1 shot 1 kill

[Sir. tehdude]

Re: Teh l33tnes$

Contrary to the popular belief, frag movies, if done well, deliver just what the doctor ordered. An educational, entertaining look into someones skill. Frag videos are by far my favourites.

Whats boring in a frag video? The same thing thats boring in a boring "fun video".

I just stayed neutral and didnt check the two full pages to see the flamewar. Its excellent to see that the emotions I had before I started to post, aimed towards the Sir Communities 1337 behaviour was partially justified, but I figured it was only one bad apple in the bunch.

In the bulk of videos youve produced gentlemen, probably ONLY the TOP GEAR was really good for me. So before you start accusing of "frag videos" being boring, take a look at your own... ... stuff...

REGARDLESS...this was not about Sir. PrototypeJC turned it into that.

I said, as a personal opinion, that I hated FRAG movies. ProtypeJC, who can't accept that, then proceeded to bash Sir. You don't see me using the childish name calling to get my point across...

I made a statement and he went into 8yr old tantrum mode. Simple as that. How is Sir. to blame for any of that?? Answer me honestly

[Sir. somecallmeTim]

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Pfffft, Spokane doesn't have mountains. :p

does too...

/me looks out window to the north sees Mt Spokane.

Okay, so we don't live in the Rockies.. I probably drive more differen in elevation to work and back that there is in the entire state of Florida. Then again, your in Montaaaaaaaana...
.......

Okay, so there's this big discussion about 'machinema' or what ever the heck you want to call it. According to Wikipedia (for laziness to find another source)
Machinima (pronounced [mə.ˈʃiː.nə.mə] or [mə.ˈʃɪ.nə.mə]), a portmanteau of machine cinema or machine animation, is both a collection of associated production techniques and a film genre defined by those techniques. As a production technique, the term concerns the rendering of computer-generated imagery (CGI) using real-time, interactive (game) 3D engines, as opposed to high-end and complex 3D animation software used by professionals. Engines from first person shooter and role-playing simulation video games are typically used. Consequently, the rendering can be done in real-time using PCs (either using the computer of the creator or the viewer), rather than with complex 3D engines using huge render farms. As a film genre, the term refers to movies created by the techniques described above. Usually, machinima productions are produced using the tools (demo recording, camera angle, level editor, script editor, etc.) and resources (backgrounds, levels, characters, skins, etc.) available in a game.

Trying to find in there where is indicates that there has to be a story line. My Geek and Gamer Group has been making Machinema films since 2002, very few, if any have an acutal story line but the feedback we've gotten is that they were entertaining. In some cases a storyline is nice, like "The Forgotten" done in BF:V - excellent. And then I've seen goofy stunt stuff that I've enjoyed, random bits of gaming strung to gether to music (Like TehDude does, usually with some theme).

I've seen good, I've seen bad, I've seen excellent, I've seen horrible. We all have opinions, and they should be shared, but they are just that, opinions, not fact.

A vid of someone running around fragging other is old, not as old as me, but old. Anyone remember Doom? Or better yet, Castle Wolfenstien? Yah, there were frag vids made with those game engines back when a 33 MHz 486 with 8 MB of RAM was a screaming machine.. think 15 years ago... (when I was still old enough to drink... lol, I am old)

I'll continue to watch as many vids as I can, If I have nothing constructive to add, I won't. If I think your vid sucks, I'll generally keep my mouth shut unless I have ways that you can improve it.

Peace,
Tim

[jameslcfc]

Re: Teh l33tnes$

I agree, Top Gear was the only well made Sir. film. It almost makes up for everything else...almost...almost...

Correct me if I'm wrong. You said EVERY Sir. film was poor. Just above my post you said Top Gear was well made. You should think things out before you post. And tehdude did nothing wrong. If he wasn't in the Sir. Community then you wouldn't have gone into the "8 year old tantrum mode". I rest my case.

[Elxx]

Re: Teh l33tnes$

In the bulk of videos youve produced gentlemen, probably ONLY the TOP GEAR was really good for me. So before you start accusing of "frag videos" being boring, take a look at your own... ... stuff...

I agree, Top Gear was the only well made Sir. film. It almost makes up for everything else...almost...almost...

Yes, because you're the foremost authority on what's boring and what's not. We look at the public's viewpoint as a whole, not just a couple of Counter-Strike kiddies who take games way too seriously. I repeat what I said before - if you didn't like a movie, at least say WHY. Right now you're just bashing because you want to join the "Sir. Community is popular, therefore they're evil! Nya nya nya!" bandwagon.

I like this thread, it nicely displays who all the immature ones are. If you have an opinion, say it, just make it constructive so we can improve. I am NOT pissed off because you don't like our movies. It's because you don't say WHY. Just remember that.

Correct me if I'm wrong. You said EVERY Sir. film was poor. Just above my post you said Top Gear was well made. You should think things out before you post. And tehdude did nothing wrong. If he wasn't in the Sir. Community then you wouldn't have gone into the "8 year old tantrum mode". I rest my case.

Thanks for pointing that out oh so eloquently. That really shows you the mindset of these people...they don't care about the movies or anything. It's just the fact that they can't handle our popularity. I know it sounds like I'm boasting, but truth hurts doesn't it?

MORAL OF THE STORY: Every Sir. member is entitled to their own opinion, and that opinion is in no way connected to the Sir. Community. Bashing the Sir. Community with nothing to back up your statements will not make you the cool kid on the block. Bashing an individual Sir. member is subject to the rules of the forum, but it has nothing to do with the Sir. Community. Bashing a Sir. Community movie requires that you a) have details about what you didn't like, and b) that you have actually watched the movie. We welcome criticism as long as it makes sense and you're not just foaming at the mouth trying to be "cool". :)

[proto]

Re: Teh l33tnes$

I'd rather watch a boring frag video than ANOTHER boring half-assed machinima from Sir. I've probably seen 1 good movie come out of Sir.

So you can either read or shut up.

I already stated that I have no personal vendetta against Sir., but I'm sick and tired of people in Sir. thinking that they're better than everyone else because they have the resources to turn out less than decent machinimas from a game known for bad ones.

I don't know where you people get off trying to call me(or anyone else) immature, because you don't know me,, and if you on the other side of this, you'd be saying the same thing. But it's not you. You have your little legion of zealots to back you up, and I'm one person. And tehdude, yes, you used name-calling to 'bring your point across'. You were the one who started the 8yr old ape thing. I think it's my right to at least mock you by giving you what you want.

Feel free to further the conversation in a more private manner. If you're mature enough to do so.

@Tehdude, I believe I'm done with you. I attempted to show you my point, but you just kept feeding me stall lines after I had given you what you want. I think I heard your mommy, is dinner ready?

I'm not trying to be 'cool' on an internet forum. I'm entitles to my own opinion, and if that is disliking the movies that come from Sir. Community, then so be it. I'm not a film critic, and I'm not going to write you on essay on your horrid films. I can tell you one thing that's good, and that's the fact that you have someone like Xalias doing the designs for most of the movies.

[Elxx]

Re: Teh l33tnes$

I already stated that I have no personal vendetta against Sir., but I'm sick and tired of people in Sir. thinking that they're better than everyone else because they have the resources to turn out less than decent machinimas from a game known for bad ones.

Your opinion means nothing either because you still haven't backed up your points. We are better than everyone else. There you go, I said it. We're THE Battlefield filming community. We're not forcing anyone to like our movies. But we have the balls to defend ourselves if someone starts bashing us for no reason.

Ask the magazines who have featured our movies. Ask the people who have watched them. Ask EA and Dice who picked US to help with their teaser videos. "Less than decent" is your opinion, but yours is not the only one around here.

But it's not you. You have your little legion of zealots to back you up, and I'm one person.

Four Sir. members have posted in this thread. Tim's comment did not contribute to this argument, so that makes three. Hardly a "legion of zealots". Have you been reading anything I wrote earlier about the fact that we're NOT a group of schoolyard bullies? If we were, there would be 8 other Sir. members going "HAHA **** YOU PROTOTYPE". But no, this isn't Counter-Strike, people have some maturity here.

Or are you calling those other non-Sir.-members (i.e. jameslcfc) zealots? Who made you the god of TotalBF2? They have the right to their own opinion, what the hell is wrong with that? Maybe they have the intelligence to have their own opinion instead of following your blabbering.

Feel free to further the conversation in a more private manner. If you're mature enough to do so.

No. Once again, I will not tolerate you trying to make us look like the bad guys here while you run back to your little hole. The whole reason I haven't resorted to PMs is the fact that I wanted to expose the reasoning behind one of these mindless bashers who can't give an ounce of constructive criticism.

I'm not a film critic, and I'm not going to write you on essay on your horrid films. I can tell you one thing that's good, and that's the fact that you have someone like Xalias doing the designs for most of the movies.

Once again, you have nothing to back up your statement. You have an opinion, but right now it's based solely on jealousy. We're entitled to defending ourselves and keeping our image as much as you are.

The worst thing about this thread is the fact that ONE Sir. member posted his opinion (his own personal opinion, an opinion that had nothing to do with the Sir. Community) and now people are trying to hold that against everybody in the Sir. Community. Are people really so stupid that they don't know the difference?