No Fighting at Uncap Rule

[buteonidae]

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I feel like being a jerk:

shut the f*** up dude.

Suck a d*ldo b***h! You don't even deserve a real **** to suck on stupid fg.

[[21CW]DWillis]

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Rules like this are for the benefit of those who run the servers to make sure they can continue to fly "their" jets and helos.

War is not gentlemenly, so fight accordingly.

Keep in mind though, if the rules fall in line with the ROE, then you should abide by them. These guys are paying for your ability to play, and that has given them the right to changes the battlefield as they see it - as long as it's within the ROE.

If you have a problem with these rules, then find another server that doesn't have them.

If you really have issues with this stuff, stop trying to play on clan servers and stick with the true pubby-style servers or join a clan yourself and help make up the battlefield the way you want it.

And if none of these are to your liking, try tournament or match play.

This community has enough niches in it there's room for everyone. Heck, there's even a Christian BF2 server out there that will ban you for having a "satanistic" name.

[troybob]

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Suck a d*ldo b***h! You don't even deserve a real **** to suck on stupid fg.

mission accomplished. :)

[7man]

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In war you dont get 2 points per kill

Well I'm pretty sure that there is no points in the "real world" unless your counting a game like football or basketball......

[buteonidae]

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mission accomplished. :)

Did you do it? Well done.

[Shepherd007]

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War is not gentlemenly, so fight accordingly.

That's a good quote. I'll have to remember that one.

Keep in mind though, if the rules fall in line with the ROE, then you should abide by them. These guys are paying for your ability to play, and that has given them the right to changes the battlefield as they see it - as long as it's within the ROE.

If you have a problem with these rules, then find another server that doesn't have them.

One of the questions I posed was whether or not this "rule" falls in line with the ROE. Since they bought a ranked server, they merely paid for their right to run whatever maps they want in addition to acceptable addendum "In-House" server rules; if they had an unranked server, then they would have the right to change the battlefield as they see it. The ROE does not explicitly state one way or the other whether this rule is acceptable.

Obviously I can go find another server, that's not the point of this discussion. I'm trying to determine if the typical BF2 player thinks this rule is (or should/should not be) bound by the ROE. Here's another gray area issue that I just thought of. The ROE specifically states that a server can create a rule against bombing runs on uncappables with aircraft. However, it also specifies as a note that "specific attacks targeting the enemy commander’s asset buildings are always allowed, even if they are within the enemy main base." So if I bomb the commanders UAV trailer, it could be misconstrued as a bombing run on the main base and I could be kicked. Who broke the ROE in that instance?

Can I get an opinion from one of the ROE players?

[12:oc7ock]

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this is why i stay in servers with the message "its war we use the entire map"

touche

[killer21]

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I once got kicked for TVing the MEC chopper on OMAN from the Construction site right before it took off. I got kicked for "Attacking a UCB". I think that is probably the gheyest rule because you have to have rules to protect you from getting your butt kicked.

[Thirdeyez]

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I find the "fighting at uncap" stupid if the chopper/plane are already and have been in the air.

BUT,,,I can respect not attacking uncaps and I have no problem with it nor do I see what the big deal is to get pissy about it.

Firstly, its a game, so your fun should also trickle down to everyone, and no one wants to be constantly attacked while trying to spawn. An uncap is liek a safe zone to spawn at at times. We all must agree nothing is worse then not being able to get off the carrier or even get your assests in the air.

Secondly..which takes more skill..destroying a sitting duck or allowing there to be fair footing ie. dogfighting.
Seriously I dont understand the hard on people get from attacking sitting ducks. Like the pricks that J-10 rape...really how hard is it in the J-10 with assests in the air..its not..so at least allow some buffer.

And lastly. I hate to say it but usually the people that get there jollys off of uncap raping are the tools that allow back bases to be lost. Nothign better then watchign the MEC rush the hill while your taking the back bases, or the J-10 shooting down the noobs in the planes on the carrier as the USMC have already made there way to shores, or the bomber killing 3 guys on the deck as a caravan of tanks makes there way to a base...brilliant.
IMO if the situation allows for an offensive strike on an uncap your best bet is to play a defensive role...patrol the air in the area around the uncap, stay off the uncap hill so if you see a white flag behind you can quickly move back..but there is no points in that and as we all know Points > Win.

Dont forget plane old sportsmanship..but alas this is the interweb and we are all macho and feel we need to pwn because its "war"

[[21CW]DWillis]

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I understand where you were going with it. since I'm not a member of the ROE I purposely avoided trying to answer that piece of the question because it isn't right of me to inject what could be misinterpretation from the ROE.

But... IMO :laugh: I think it's against the ROE.

That's a good quote. I'll have to remember that one.



One of the questions I posed was whether or not this "rule" falls in line with the ROE. Since they bought a ranked server, they merely paid for their right to run whatever maps they want in addition to acceptable addendum "In-House" server rules; if they had an unranked server, then they would have the right to change the battlefield as they see it. The ROE does not explicitly state one way or the other whether this rule is acceptable.

Obviously I can go find another server, that's not the point of this discussion. I'm trying to determine if the typical BF2 player thinks this rule is (or should/should not be) bound by the ROE. Here's another gray area issue that I just thought of. The ROE specifically states that a server can create a rule against bombing runs on uncappables with aircraft. However, it also specifies as a note that "specific attacks targeting the enemy commander’s asset buildings are always allowed, even if they are within the enemy main base." So if I bomb the commanders UAV trailer, it could be misconstrued as a bombing run on the main base and I could be kicked. Who broke the ROE in that instance?

Can I get an opinion from one of the ROE players?

[IndianScout]

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anymore flaming will get this thread closed..

the Uncap rule was put into place because alot clans asked for it,

as far as I know there is no rule that says you cant dogfight above it tho..

[[21CW]DWillis]

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anymore flaming will get this thread closed..

the Uncap rule was put into place because alot clans asked for it,

as far as I know there is no rule that says you cant dogfight above it tho..

Thank you for the clarification.

[12:oc7ock]

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Well, frankly, the players in BF2 don't have a clue about true spawn raping. The ownage during a spawn rape I used to give and receive in BHD was insane. Once the raping team got in the spawn and started there was no ending it, period. And in that game there was such thing as a headshot, get the picture?

In BF2, any rape can be circumvented, its just the majority chooses to cry about it instead of utilizing that 10% of their brain to adapt and overcome.

[W_Parmenter]

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anymore flaming will get this thread closed..

the Uncap rule was put into place because alot clans asked for it,

as far as I know there is no rule that says you cant dogfight above it tho..

But does 2.3.2(d) allow server admins to make such a rule?

[Shepherd007]

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But does 2.3.2(d) allow server admins to make such a rule?

Thank you Parmenter. Perfectly stated.

I'm all for no spawn camping, but can admins create a rule that allows enemy aircraft that have left the uncap, return to the uncap area and not be engaged?