The Truth About CAL

[Saluca]

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You confuse Players with Kits. A Kit is a selection a Player makes at the start of a round. How he goes about using said Kit is up to the Player.

I have seen all kinds of Players using Kits and not having the first clue about how to employ it in the field. Medics running by injured teammates, Supports looking daft when you request ammo, etc. Its not restricted to Snipers.

Not that I feel obliged to tell you this but I have been playing in competitions on and of the last year with several BF2 clans in just about any league we have over here in Europe.
In some cases I was asked for my expertise with the Sniper Rifle. In other cases because I make a damn fine medic/support with sound squad level tactics and teamwork on my mind.

You shouldnt be so quick to jump on anybody on a forum, because what you think you know is usually half the story.

Sometimes snipers all not to bad but most of the time, like map of jalabad people say it's inbalanced the map.

it's not it's because 60% choose to be sniper on umsc.
but still on clan matches we only let players play sniper if they know how to handle the weapon because I saw some people just shooting so good of long range that the other side just couldn't walk to the other side withou tbeing shot to death.

and the SVD is great for incomming long and mid range combat and even on close because it's automatic

[imported_HisChadness]

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Just trying to pick a fight, I need to stalk somebody when I play the game

my ingame name is dynamic.HisChadness, my xfire is chadewc. Come find me anytime.

[imported_Elder]

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It is true that a lot of CAL players are cocky and arrogant in public servers (when/IF they actually do pub) and on forums, but a lot of them have the right to be. A lot of the best players in CAL have rather large egos and take their gaming very seriously, they are the best of the best and will flaunt it if given the chance. The players that are actually good though, rarely pub. The typical arrogant and cocky CAL player you'll find in a pub server is the CAL-O player from omgbaddieclan who thinks he's the **** for whatever reason. Ignore those people, they hardly represent the best CAL has to offer.

Any individual, team, or organization that has ever challenged CAL has failed, miserably I might add. If you take the best of CAL in any format, be it 5v5, 8v8, 12v12, 15v15, or 30v30, and the best of any other organization in BF2, the best of CAL will win every time, period. If you think you're good then try and find the best players in CAL and play against them, however you'll have a hard time because most of them never pub. Look for players from teams like 20ID, HOT, Warchild, and Check-six (their starting team members only though, as most these teams have B teams) and try to play them, I'd be surprised if anyone on these forums could hold a candle to the skill they have.

[Chris_Redfield]

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It is true that a lot of CAL players are cocky and arrogant in public servers (when/IF they actually do pub) and on forums, but a lot of them have the right to be.

LOL, what a bag of bullsh!t. Do I have the right to smake my cokk into your face just because mine is 5 inches longer than yours?

Respect, sportsmalike behaviour and a little more adult-like attitude. Just because they can play the game well, doesnt mean they can behave like they are the sh!t!

Dont even try to justify immaturity.

[dblEdge]

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Most use "tweeks", not hacks. Especially the higher ranked clans.

[imported_HisChadness]

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Most use "tweeks", not hacks. Especially the higher ranked clans.

wtf are you talking about?

[imported_Elder]

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LOL, what a bag of bullsh!t. Do I have the right to smake my cokk into your face just because mine is 5 inches longer than yours?

Respect, sportsmalike behaviour and a little more adult-like attitude. Just because they can play the game well, doesnt mean they can behave like they are the sh!t!

Dont even try to justify immaturity.

Well let me rephrase that then. What I meant was they have the right to talk **** when little bitches do one of several things in public servers or on public forums.

1) Accuse them of hacking, using aimbots, using macros, glitching, exploiting, and using any kind of cheat. You can find examples of this on almost every page of this thread. Many people in here are completely ignorant to the fact at how good some of these CAL-M players are and claim (with no proof whatsoever) that they are using some sort of cheat or tweak when it is entirely untrue. The best players in CAL have played on LANs (where it's impossible to cheat) and have performed just as well as they have online. It gets a little agitating when some pub scrub attributes your success and skill in something to some kind of cheat when they have no proof or idea of what they're talking about.

2) Claiming to be better than players in CAL or on good teams when in reality they have no idea what they are talking about. A lot of people on these forums are shameless self promoters who claim to be "the best" because of their ability to own pub servers. A certain player named Planewhore comes to mind that gave himself the reputation of best pilot in the game but in reality couldn't do much more than bomb mains and take out easy targets on pub servers. Funny how the people on these forums made him out to be a God yet I could take him down with ease while in a bomber and he was in a fighter. You yourself have done this, saying you put most pilots to shame from clans. However I bet you have yet to face a decent opponent from one of the top teams in the game. Go ahead and prove me wrong if you'd like, tell me some of the so called "best players" from "top clans" that you've put to shame. I'm a pilot myself so if I have not flown against the best in the league, I have at least heard about them.

Most CAL players (the skilled ones anyway) don't talk **** unless provoked somehow by players in the public and then once they are agitated they have every right to defend themselves and verbally bash their opponents. I've never seen a CAL player come in here and start a thread saying how good they were or that they could beat any other organization out there. It was the moron members on these forums who started threads accusing our players of hacking and making fun of one of the best players in the game because of his stats and interview in a magazine.:laugh: If you're going to scold me about defending the immature posts and actions from some CAL members then maybe you should teach your fellow TotalBF2 members about maturity first.

[god.ELiTEdRuNk-]

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HOT was considered a world champion in that article because they placed 2nd at a very big lan. This lan was broadcasted on DirecTV (a nation satilite TV service here in the US). At this lan Code7, the best clan from Europe, played and lost in the first round. HOT is not considered the team they are solely on their performance in CAL. In fact, for them CAL is probably the least of their concerns. Regardless, they are not really a champion considering they lost to 20id in the finals. You have to expect a MUSIC magazine to not have all the facts right. No one in CAL is ever named the world champion.

Until that lan Europe was for a long time considered superior to North America and in the bf2 world tournament every team but HOT and Warchild made it very far from NA. Most of the top finishing teams were European.


If you look at the new tournaments section that is exactly the kind of game CAL would like to organize. Regardless, if you want to see how good CAL really is download bfpro and check out the bfpro pub.

uh actually it was us (warchild) that beat code7 and placed 2nd

[underOATH]

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yup clan players arent much better players.. you will find many of the top pub guys that play alone can easily own them. but a team working well together can be hard to beat, and thats where a clan will excel.

thats what makes up CAL. Really good players playing together in clans. And anyone who thinks CAL players arent any better than average players, or that CAL players are just as good as you and your buddies you play with, I invite you all to download BF2Pro(a mod used for competition play) and come play on the "Spun and Swifty" server.. Then you can get a feel for what CAL and competitive gaming is about...

BF2Pro Download (~23MB)

24/7 BFPro 1.43 By Spun and Swifty

[god.ELiTEdRuNk-]

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Bf2 is actually going to be in the next step up from cal, which is cpl


thecpl.com

[Auman.]

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Most use "tweeks", not hacks. Especially the higher ranked clans.

Explain these tweaks to me por favor.

And I don't see how you can say we use noob tactics to win when it's a video game, and you do what you do to win. That's like saying when the army flanks someone they are using noob tactics to win wars.

[imported_dontlookback]

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i talked **** all the time, its fun

[DrunkenPirate]

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This thread some kind of a joke?
some scrub get rolled by a few CAL players or something?

[Flandez]

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Most use "tweeks", not hacks. Especially the higher ranked clans.

Please inform me as to the "tweaks" my team uses, I await your reply.

[Jemme101]

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What amazes me at this point is how easily I could switch out this thread for threads in the last couple of years on other boards about other games. When CAL gets mentioned it opens a rift on any board because of all the misconceptions that live between pubbers and CAL-lers.

At the end of the day the proficient players at CAL let their abilities speak for themselves in matches. The true public players, that play the game for fun, dont even bother getting mixed up in E-penis contests like we have here now. They are out there playing the game while at the same time the CAL-peeps are playing a PCW or something.

The only people that get upset are the fanbois from CAL and the wannabees from the Pub scene. And quite frankly I have yet to see anything worthwhile coming forth from any of those threads where the two meet.