1 v 1 choppers(hell fire only)

[lostinspace]

Re: 1 v 1 choppers(hell fire only)

About tv missile bugs...

These are the ones I know about:
-the no reload
-the no fire
-the no redirecting (it just goes into a cornerflight)
-the delay between shooting and it finally fireing (discussed above)
-The instant tv, where you also see a rocket comming from the pilots seat (seen in sloi's video's)


And the most funny one of all, where the camera stays at your chopper, but you see the missile and a rocket fly and you can still redirect the missile...
(I'll try to get a video of this soon)

[Six.]

Re: 1 v 1 choppers(hell fire only)

After a drunk night full of laughs about even the most lined up misses, he gave up...
It was a very fun night though :)

lol, no matter then- I think that's always the best way to play.

[lostinspace]

Re: 1 v 1 choppers(hell fire only)

Welll... I guess... shooting ahead of the target? on your next click after you launch the TV missile, try to anticipate the enemy unit's movement.

I've had many occaisions where I manage to JUST nip the rear (even actually JUST miss by a tiny bit) of an enemy helo-transport, chopper, and even fighter jet- and I manage to destroy them each time... what's up with that?

Hitboxes lag behind choppers a bit...
That's the best way I can discribe it...

[Six.]

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Hitboxes lag behind choppers a bit...
That's the best way I can discribe it...

That explains a lot then... seems to happen with anything actually... even infantry- I've shot slightly behind them where they weren't, and I score a hit, but I try shooting directly at them or in front, and they don't seem to get hit... (they were moving of course).

In that case... attempt to hit air-targets square-on with the TV missile then, coz it seems shooting ahead of them to hit their front may not do anything!

[Chodda]

Re: 1 v 1 choppers(hell fire only)

chopper duels are crap. its all about who see's who first and who gets in range first.

[lostinspace]

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Check this link for the most funny tv bug:

http://media.putfile.com/funnybug

Anybody seen that one yet..?
I can reproduce it at will, although it's useless at long distance while in flight, because of the chopper spin...

[predragjanjic]

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chopper duels are crap. its all about who see's who first and who gets in range first.

thats when you play the TV game but hell fire only is different

Check this link for the most funny tv bug:

http://media.putfile.com/funnybug

Anybody seen that one yet..?
I can reproduce it at will, although it's useless...

sweet, how do you do it?

[lostinspace]

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sweet, how do you do it?

hmmm... it's related to my tv missile bug list and I thought it funny enough to share this one...
But since it also falls into the category of instant-tv, I'd rather not share...

Hope you don't mind...

[Sloi sauce]

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chopper duels are crap. its all about who see's who first and who gets in range first.

Good contribution, Diane. :)

[gunitsoldier127]

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guys, lets get this straight, the hell fire is actually the tv guided HELicopter Launched Fire- and forget missile on the attack helis. the rockets taht goes straight are definately not called hellfires.

[lostinspace]

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chopper duels are crap. its all about who see's who first and who gets in range first.

That is not always true...

The methode I've addapted does not require me to see the enemy first or fire first... (Although I do need to react within a second or so after he fired)
Nowadays, I can manage to let my chopper fly itself out of range, while I am guiding the missile as a reaction...
This way, even if the enemy fired first, my missile will hit and his will run out of fuel...

Unless the enemy addapts the same style though, that's when it becomes boring (for me)...

So I have to agree with the topic starter... Rocket battles are far more enjoyable... When I have a (public)gunner and the enemy has one as well, battles will still often be fought that way...

[predragjanjic]

Re: 1 v 1 choppers(hell fire only)

guys, lets get this straight, the hell fire is actually the tv guided HELicopter Launched Fire- and forget missile on the attack helis. the rockets taht goes straight are definately not called hellfires.

thats what they are called by everyone else lol, tell me the real name then

[lostinspace]

Re: 1 v 1 choppers(hell fire only)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-114_Hellfire

Or is it a TOW missile?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BGM-71_TOW

The names depend on the army you are fighting for offcourse...
The chineese version isn't called a hellfire there...

Here is what the cobra has (IRL)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AH-1_Cobra#Specifications_.28AH-1S.29

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[Compumaniac12]

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the rocket represented ingame is definatly not a TOW

the tow a distinct look with flares coming out each side. Its mainly used to Anti Armor purposes.


I hate to bust your bubble on this but my opinion about helicoptor combat is that its crap. Choppers were never really meant to engage each other... and when they do it tends to be a heatseeker to whoever is seen first. Personally i think they should remove the ability for helicopters to easily kill each other.

[lostinspace]

Re: 1 v 1 choppers(hell fire only)

the rocket represented ingame is definatly not a TOW

the tow a distinct look with flares coming out each side. Its mainly used to Anti Armor purposes.


I hate to bust your bubble on this but my opinion about helicoptor combat is that its crap. Choppers were never really meant to engage each other... and when they do it tends to be a heatseeker to whoever is seen first. Personally i think they should remove the ability for helicopters to easily kill each other.

Some might disagree about it beeing 'easy', but I agree it would be more fun if choppers simply could not tv eachother... Good idea...

About it beeing boring... Well I just saw a movie of a 2 vs 2 match here:

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99261

And indeed, that is boring as hell...
I'm sure it's exciting to win, but I'd rather enjoy the road to a win, then go at it like that for 20 minutes (the video is only like 4 minutes long, but leaves out the height gaining and stuff)...