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  • Bayblaze2

    #16
    Re: The J-10

    Actually there is also a slight difference in the ability of missiles fired air-to-air against the J10 and those fired from ground AA against the J10.

    My experience has determined that it is slightly easier to get a missile hit on the J10 with a ground-fired AA than it is from an air-to-air missile, even if fired from another J10. Most of the missile hits I encounter when flying the J10 come from ground AA, many times regardless of the aerial manuever, and usually if (as MetallicaGuitarist stated) the gunner has let the J10 get a little range on it when the missile is fired. The missile seems to lock a bit better when fired at range and follow the J10 through the aerial manuever rather than just run up the side of the fuselage.

    However, the F-18 appears to have same uncanny "coding" of allowing missiles to just slide up the side of the fuselage as does the J10. Although the F-18 is the only USMC plane that even has a chance of survival against the J10, the J10's is much more agile and maintains a greater speed during maneuvers.

    The J10's extreme nimbleness does have one drawback that can be taken advantage of by the F35 and F18.....The J10 is very susceptible to being thrown into a slide, particularly if in a climbing turn and opposite rudder is applied. If at high altitude or with the nose pointed up in a climb during such a turn, the slide very quickly will throw the J10 above the ceiling and because the J10 reduces throttle so slowly, it is very susceptible to simply sliding on the glass ceiling off the map and dying before control can be retained.

    Many F35 pilots have discovered that the F35 will maintain controllability at a higher altitude than the J10 and use that advantage to escape high and try to get the J10 to hit the glass-ceiling.

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    • Cromat

      #17
      Re: The J-10

      My tip is:Go high,locte J10,sneak up on it,shoot mith MG,fire amissile and quickly turn to bomb mode If U kill J10,be ready to call U a hacker

      I am not much of a pilot but I have 50% chance that I can kill J10 b4 it kills me

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      • imported_Chael
        Member
        • Mar 2006
        • 602

        #18
        Re: The J-10

        I love the F35. It handles like a dream. Plus theres nothing better than taking out those J-10s. The VTOL is almost useless unless you're out of bombs and need to take out a tank, but even then...

        The J-10 is obviously superior in terms of missile evasion, but it lacks the same feel. And it's just ****ing boring to fly.

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        • Blades

          #19
          Re: The J-10

          Originally posted by NuclearRecord
          you obviosly havent been chased by one when you are in any other plane. the j10 is much better but that is how life is. each countries vehicles arent equal.
          If another country could dodge US missles, that would be ****ing pathetic.

          Handling is fine, BUT the ****ing MISSLES have to hit EVERYTHING 100% of the time, or 0% of the time.

          Originally posted by Chael
          I love the F35. It handles like a dream. Plus theres nothing better than taking out those J-10s. The VTOL is almost useless unless you're out of bombs and need to take out a tank, but even then...

          The J-10 is obviously superior in terms of missile evasion, but it lacks the same feel. And it's just ****ing boring to fly.
          Well a recent move I have been using to dodge a j10 is to Do split s's and slow down, then as you go back up slow down, by the end of the loop you will have made a sort of spiral because of that VTOL, while the J10 just loses airspeed and will overshoot you. something like that. It helps against even skilled pilots imo.

          But, you have to use it correctly.

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          • Jay-C_2142

            #20
            Re: The J-10

            This is gonna seem like a right noob question but i only have 4 hours on wake because my sytem specs cant handle it but am hoping to upgrade soon. Anyway, the J-10 is the chinese jet? correct? dont flame me...i dont play wake...

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            • .Churr.
              Member
              • Nov 2005
              • 1166

              #21
              Re: The J-10

              Originally posted by Jay_C
              This is gonna seem like a right noob question but i only have 4 hours on wake because my sytem specs cant handle it but am hoping to upgrade soon. Anyway, the J-10 is the chinese jet? correct? dont flame me...i dont play wake...
              Yes it is.
              I don't blame you for the confusion, as you can see them by the carrier more than the F35's, that you can think of it as a US plane.

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              • EliteOneOneSeven

                #22
                Re: The J-10

                Originally posted by zipp0r
                yup, i find the same! all planes are as good as each other, except the f35... which is ****.

                its just a select bunch of numpties that sit there all day long spamming nerf the j10 when it really isnt that bad.

                Say that on Wake Island and your gonna regret what ur saying. The J-10 downs the 2 F-35s and then base rapes the carrier, not a pretty sight if u ask me...

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                • 2142-Android

                  #23
                  Re: The J-10

                  I found that on wake if a j-10 gets behind you while you are in an f-35, do the whole dogfight in the view where you can see behind you, It has worked for me.
                  this is a good tatic because you can see if they have messed up a turn that they thought you were going to do.

                  eg. you do a sharp left turn then pull up, the j10 pilot thinks you are gonna keep turning and then sees you pull up, he has messed up, and that gives you a chance of getting away.

                  sort of hard to explain but yea.

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                  • Thirdeyez

                    #24
                    Re: The J-10

                    It comes down to the pilot to be honest IMO.

                    A skilled pilot will down a mediocre J-10 pilot, while two average pilots in the same battle will almost always show the dominace of the J-10.

                    Im sure Metalica or PW would down us average joes if they had the F35 to work with, but stack them two against each other in the same situation...Im placing my money on the guy in the J-10.

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                    • Chris_Redfield
                      Member
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 5986

                      #25
                      Re: The J-10

                      Originally posted by Peoplekillingmachine
                      It comes down to the pilot to be honest IMO.

                      A skilled pilot will down a mediocre J-10 pilot, while two average pilots in the same battle will almost always show the dominace of the J-10.

                      Im sure Metalica or PW would down us average joes if they had the F35 to work with, but stack them two against each other in the same situation...Im placing my money on the guy in the J-10.
                      I can down 2 very skilled F35B pilots while I fly in a MiG, when I fly J10, its not a problem.

                      My personal achievement is downing 2 brothers who challenged me, they were both kickass pilots and I showed dominance over them.

                      While a pilots skill level is a huge factor, it is undeniable that a jet has its own say.

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                      • zipp0r

                        #26
                        Re: The J-10

                        Originally posted by Blades
                        If another country could dodge US missles, that would be ****ing pathetic.

                        Handling is fine, BUT the ****ing MISSLES have to hit EVERYTHING 100% of the time, or 0% of the time.

                        100% missile hits are boring.. we've been there already (1.2) and it wasnt fun!!

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                        • Six.

                          #27
                          Re: The J-10

                          Meh, US have their blackhawks, MEC has their... SVDs and tankier helos, Let the PLA have their J10s.

                          Seriously. Don't ANYONE root for the PLA here?!

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                          • zipp0r

                            #28
                            Re: The J-10

                            Originally posted by Admiral.Nimtz
                            Say that on Wake Island and your gonna regret what ur saying. The J-10 downs the 2 F-35s and then base rapes the carrier, not a pretty sight if u ask me...
                            funny i played that the other day and i think i died once :laugh:
                            in the f35 youve gotta make sure a j10 cant easily find you, which means staying above them and swooping down to attack then going up again.

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                            • Six.

                              #29
                              Re: The J-10

                              Originally posted by zipp0r
                              funny i played that the other day and i think i died once :laugh:
                              in the f35 youve gotta make sure a j10 cant easily find you, which means staying above them and swooping down to attack then going up again.
                              FINALLY! someone with a SOLUTION! not a bloody complaint!

                              Hell! I had to find solutions to the 'BH-whore' problem (particularly the ones witha squad full of engineers- with the Squad-Leader in the middle seat). It was always a challeng to take a Blackhawk down, thus how satisfied I am whenever I do.

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                              • zipp0r

                                #30
                                Re: The J-10

                                Originally posted by Six.
                                FINALLY! someone with a SOLUTION! not a bloody complaint!


                                its common sense, sadly not many people have any :P

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