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  • RocketChild
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2005
    • 3949

    #46
    Re: 4 star to private

    Originally posted by Revoluti0n
    People spend too much time saying that reporting poeple never works and trying to find a way to justify stat padding. This is just one more that proves that reporting works.
    It really sounds like this kat was a monster. I hate to see people loose so much time that they have invested...but in certain scenrios, it seems completely valid. An example like Spetnaz make me unhappy on some of the policies and there are several more that I could list also that I feel might have gotten the shaft for the wrong reasons.

    I do feel that it does work, but because some of the process is so guarded and not transparent, we lack understanding of how the data is collected, processed and then scrubbed. If you spend enough time reading all of IS's posts here, at BFROE, and various other forums, you get a better picture.

    If this is blatant, reckless abuse of the whole stat program...sure why not wipe'em, but because people like this will not change, and the only thing that really hits them hard is a Hardware Ban and I am not sure how many of these get handed out.

    Sometimes, I will yell "Burn'em!!!" But, it really depends on the severity, because with people that pad on K/P, I don't think ALL of their stats need to be wiped, just knock the wind out of them with a %30 Global Score reduction on their account and clean out their Pistol, Knife kills and badges. Reserve the serious hardcore wipes that remove 18 months of work for those that have gone above and beyond.

    I can't count the number of PM's I have cleaned out of my inbox from people that I have warned about their statements here in the forums and then find out they have never heard of ROE. I get PMs also that support my bold aggressive countering of BFROE's polices at times.

    The community in general all agrees...there needs to be action and to those that violate the communities expectations of a level playing field. But it seems that there are some that are hardcore about cutting peoples' balls off and some that feel that there are levels of tolerance.

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    • Revoluti0n
      Member
      • Mar 2006
      • 3032

      #47
      Re: 4 star to private

      Ignorance is bliss I guess. It's one thing to own the game for a week or 2, maybe even a month and have no idea about the "rules". Then you have these people that sit and stat pad relentlessly, they know that on some level it is wrong, yet they do it anyway.

      @ MoB|GunnerDoop

      I think this serves as a reminder to the people that do cheat that reporting works. Too many people are in disbelief that if you get reported nothing will happen to you. This is proof that there is someone paying attention to the reports submitted. Just because they are not wiped within 15 seconds of your submission, eventually it will happen. I ask what about the ego, integrity, and respect of those cheating all day long?
      Someone else would have evenutally made a thread "ZomFg!!! Someone was reset!!!"

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      • Skwurl

        #48
        Re: 4 star to private

        Originally posted by RocketChild
        Nice to see how happy you are about taking away 66 days of someones life.


        How dare BFROE enforce the game rules and punish a stat padder. It's just not fair!

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        • Supermario

          #49
          Re: 4 star to private

          yeah well i still think its kinda messed up

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          • ELI

            #50
            Re: 4 star to private

            How's it messed up? These people KNOW they exploiting the system when they repeatedly pad. This guy and his clan were basically breaking every rule that all ranked BF2 servers are expected to uphold. Now how can you tell me it's messed up?

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            • RocketChild
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2005
              • 3949

              #51
              Re: 4 star to private

              Originally posted by Skwurl


              How dare BFROE enforce the game rules and punish a stat padder. It's just not fair!
              Let me break it down differently for you then. If he had about 1600 hours of play in, that would mean about 200 days of 8 hours a pop time playing.

              If we were to look at that as time at work, lets just take 200 days of pay out of someone's pocket.

              Sounds like this dude needed to be slapped really, really hard...but I would be damn pissed if someone took my 18 months of playing and cleared my effort. Because my f**king life is full to the brim with things to do and take care of. I am not some 14 year old kid who's only responciblity is making sure he does well in school. I have a house payment, a truck payment, home repairs to perform, cleaning and laundry, shopping, things to plan and take care of. My life is full. So any second of time I can get on the Battlefield is special to me. And when I see little sadistic smilies from people being gleeful about punishing someone else, then I get more than a little annoyed, because, though I don't pad or cheat or hack, the system sounds like some people could get the everything wasted with no recourse for a wrongful wipe. Some of these things are gutless. Sometimes they are worth it, and sometimes the not. Computers give false positives and people lie.

              And don't give me that BS about, you don't own your stats, blah, blah. I own my time and life, and this is someplace that I put an investment in. Yeah, someday it will all go away because we will abandon it to some other game on the horizon, but for now, I am happy with what I have. I spent money on this game and then on a system to play it. Most of these kids had mommy and daddy put up the money for a computer.

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              • WolfAlmighty
                Artillery Magnet
                • Jan 2007
                • 2113

                #52
                Re: 4 star to private

                But it's a simple enough concept - if you agree to play on and/or own ranked servers you agree to EA's stipulations. It's unreasonable to expect someone to agree to regulations and then not be punished for not following them. It's not like a grey area or anything, they broke the rules, and therefore they should have the penalties taken against them. It may suck to have all that time seemingly taken away from them, but as the saying goes you do the crime, you do the time.

                As for everyone being excited over it, it's just a type of vindication, I suppose. Some people like to see those who wronged them be punished. Payback, karma, just deserts, however you want to say it. I believe Gore Vidal once wrote that it is not enough to succeed - others must fail. Whatever the case is the underlying truth is that someone broke the rules and paid the consequences. Personally I don't give a toss whether someone else gets their stats reset, but I also don't pity someone who got them wiped for breaking the rules. The more time spent and points lost, the harder the lesson learned.

                ~Wolfgang

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                • Chodda
                  Member
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 996

                  #53
                  Re: 4 star to private

                  haha I hope that illusion btch is reading this thread.
                  xfire: chodda
                  steam: w0ofz

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                  • GSG9xSNIPER

                    #54
                    Re: 4 star to private

                    Is that dA server still RANKED? And too bad they can't hardware ban individual people from creating another account so they can just stat pad and cheat over again.. I find it ridiculous that these people can just create new accounts over and over again.

                    Question: When these cheaters/smacktards or whoever get their STATS wiped are they REPORTED to PUNKBUSTER for BANNING on Master BAN LIST..

                    If not, WHY?

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                    • Immigrant

                      #55
                      Re: 4 star to private

                      damn statpadders, kinda makes it hard to get in the top 50 the legit way for the 4th star... since some of these mofo's get more points in a day than me in a week. But then again ... i could give a sh*t,i play on 260servers.net and sh*t like this doesnt fly.

                      Stop in and discover what BF2 gaming is supposed to be like.

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                      • Jumintiger
                        Member
                        • May 2006
                        • 517

                        #56
                        Re: 4 star to private

                        Servers should be forced to play unranked, as a sticky has said.

                        It's one thing if there's stat padding without an admins knowledge, it's another if the admin is the one doing it. Admins have to know the ROE, he knows it's wrong so I think that's a good enough reason to get the server "wiped" for lack of a better word.

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                        • joshblancett

                          #57
                          Re: 4 star to private

                          Originally posted by MoB|GunnerDoop
                          Good job advertising it.I thought you were professionals? Does a company advertise fired employee's? No, because it is personal.

                          Ego +2
                          Respect -4
                          What! ever heard of the alaphia cable ceo and his sons, how about enron,
                          when people get fired that are at a certain level ,yes people do talk about it. people talk about it to see if it was justified or not. and personally, i think almost the whole DA clan needs alittle public bashing. you should see how "professionally" they treat players on there server. bunch of jerks, they deserve it.
                          oh, and if they are still padding, it just shows he's age. adults learn from getting punished.(normally) kids just keep doing what they get away with untill you take their liberities away from them. KEEP WIPING STAT-PADDERS!

                          i dont have to worry about this as my stats truely suck

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                          • BigBadBob

                            #58
                            Re: 4 star to private

                            When was he reported? I seem to remember seeing him reported long before the Ticket system BF2RS has.

                            Might have been in the spring.

                            Padders just need to be perma banned from all servers, no need to reset them. As it does nothing. Many times, they'll be reported again for doing the same ****. Just perma ban and move on.

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                            • LifeCrysis

                              #59
                              Re: 4 star to private

                              When I look at his stats, it still show his rank being 4 star and has all his awards. The only thing that is different are his points.

                              Point being, if he doesn't lose those things why reset him? This account has already accomplished everthing you can (minus a few awards, which dont require 180,000 points). If he shows up in a server does it still show him as a four star? If so then whats the point? Seems as though it would be better to get mid-rank folks who aren't completely accomplished.

                              If the point is to just knock hime of the top world rankings, well I guess thats fine, but personnally I don't care about that. I am much more interseted in a players awards and rank. I hate saying these high ranking world players, who are still colonel and only have the support or medic badge(with over 2000hrs played).

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                              • CensoredByGod

                                #60
                                Re: 4 star to private

                                Nice, happy days

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