1.4 - The End of BF2?

[mlkmnz]

Re: 1.4 - The End of BF2?

I am thinking BF2142 is going to be as buggy as BF2, if not more. If its based on the same code, and DICE have had a year to try to get BF2 running properly and still cant, what the hells going to happen with a version of the code which is going to be as heavily modified as 2142?

I'm not touching the franchise until BF3 or later....

[Kurt]

Re: 1.4 - The End of BF2?

I am thinking BF2142 is going to be as buggy as BF2, if not more. If its based on the same code, and DICE have had a year to try to get BF2 running properly and still cant, what the hells going to happen with a version of the code which is going to be as heavily modified as 2142?

I'm not touching the franchise until BF3 or later....

BF2 and BF2142 use the same engine so in theory stuff that's fixed in BF2 that's engine-related will also be ok in 2142. There are other issues of course that arn't engine related but hopefully those will be picked up in the long beta test phase that they're running. I reckon on release BF2142 will be pretty stable but personally I'd rather it was buggy and a whole new game rather than what feels like a rather uninspiring futuristic mod for BF2.

[mlkmnz]

Re: 1.4 - The End of BF2?

BF2 and BF2142 use the same engine so in theory stuff that's fixed in BF2 that's engine-related will also be ok in 2142.

Thats my point. If BF2 isnt ok, how the hell can 2142 be?

[RavenRealms]

Re: 1.4 - The End of BF2?

It isn't the end of BF2 for me. I'll play this game forever.

2142 just doesn't do it for me.

[Holle]

Re: 1.4 - The End of BF2?

Kristoffer Bergqvist: "We won't abandon BF2. We have a newly created Live team at DICE, and they will be responsible for keeping the game alive, with patching, expansion packs, mod support, and things like that."

http://www.shacknews.com/extras/2006/090506_bf2142_2.x

How I read that is, "as long as we can charge people for 3 maps, 2 of them being crap....we will."

[Kurt]

Re: 1.4 - The End of BF2?

Thats my point. If BF2 isnt ok, how the hell can 2142 be?

I may be completely wrong but I think that 1.4 has sorted out most of the issues like server crashes and CTD's, etc. That, IMHO was what was *wrong* with BF2 and that's the kind of stuff I expect to see working in BF2142 from day one.

There's stuff I don't like about BF2 like specific maps, balance issues, etc but I'm hoping that stuff liek that gets resolved at beta stage, especially as so many people are testing it.

So, for those reasons I reckon BF2142 will be ok at launch as all the hard work hunting down and fixing bugs in the engine will have been done in BF2 while all the balance and gamesply issues (plus maybe undiscovered engine bugs) will be resolved by the long beta stage.

All IMHO, I may be completely wrong, just my thoughts.

[scott123]

Re: 1.4 - The End of BF2?

I sure hope this is the last patch, because I just want the game left alone. The Bunny Hoppers, and prone killing has been there from day one so lets all just get used to it.

2142 is not going to be the demise of BF2. People want to fight battles in a contemporary format, not some futureistic scene. EA will find that out once 2142 is released, then they will start on BF3 which is what everyone wants.

[Kurt]

Re: 1.4 - The End of BF2?

I sure hope this is the last patch, because I just want the game left alone. The Bunny Hoppers, and prone killing has been there from day one so lets all just get used to it.

2142 is not going to be the demise of BF2. People want to fight battles in a contemporary format, not some futureistic scene. EA will find that out once 2142 is released, then they will start on BF3 which is what everyone wants.

Yeah, I agree to some extent though I can't see myself ever getting used to bunny-hoppers or insta-proners, it annoys me.

I think you're right about 2142 also. I've played the beta and thought it was ok but it just didn't feel *right*, it just feels like a cheap add-on to BF2. I could accept that if it was an expansion pack but not if it's a whole new game with all the baggage that it entails (high purchase price, splitting the mod community, splitting the Dice developers, etc).

Not sure about BF3 though, I thought that's what BF2142 is. I can't really see what other direction they can go in. They've done WW2, they've done contemporary, they've done futuristic so what's next?

[SciFiMan]

Re: 1.4 - The End of BF2?

Well, we already know that the engine has been modified in 2142. I suspect that there were engine issues in BF2 that couldn't be resolved fully in patches. Maybe large sections of code have now been rewritten and optimized for use in 2142.

Unlike some people, I'm willing to try 2142 for a week or so before I start crapping on it. And in any case, there are a lot of players of BF2, of all types, and DICE sure can't please everyone. Just like any manufacturer, they make the product to appeal to the most folks they can, and then you just shrug and move on to the next product.

Thats my point. If BF2 isnt ok, how the hell can 2142 be?

[[13]VisciousDog]

Re: 1.4 - The End of BF2?

What really bothers me, is players jumping higher than bullets aimed at em and you miss. I can not imagine in real life situation in Irag for example an Iragi or American running and jumping (Hopping) bullets being fired at em and not miss, but in a game like BF2 or even SF it happens a lot. It really drives me crazy and at the time of the player did his final hops, I am trying to give him the best that it doesn't work, then finding out after that I am changing my mag on the weapon I am using, then I find myself pawned. Also dolphin diving. Your firing at a height, micro second later, you see the guy on the ground aiming at your head at not missing at all. Or you can find yourself throwing a grenade farther than a football field. A MP5 or other does better than a sniper weapon. A tank or vehicle I mean, can go around/ontop a land mine and nothing happens. That is how bad the game can be, but these types of players are making this game that way and pushing decient players away from the game, for themselves. Then they make a ruckess the game is damaged if those been removed or decreased. Dice has to make a patch all the time to make these guys happy, because maybe these guys are the only ones camplaining to them. My days are done on complaining. Got fed up being alone and called a whiner or other, when I make a point across regarding a game. But I had to over come these kinda problems during play and it can be fustrating during each patch. The patch 1.4 been out for one day, and I haven't experienced well enough of these problems yet to know if the problem increased or decreased. Will have to see after a week or two.

Also the game speed is really fast now, that squad or team work doesn't work anymore. Most do lone wolfs now, because everyone is to darn busy running around trying to keep up trying to do best for the team. Me at age 41 is finding it very difficult keeping up at the pace with these young guys. This game is very very fast and you have to think quick. I may join a squad, and follow orders. But I am not able to follow the squad to the mission point, unless I spawn on Squad leader. I still play BF2 and also SF no matter what the problem is, when I can and have to live with what is out there in the game.

[BigDaddyTX]

Re: 1.4 - The End of BF2?

... I can't really see what other direction they can go in. They've done WW2, they've done contemporary, they've done futuristic so what's next?

How about:

BF3: Cave Wars! We all play members of one of 4 cavemen factions. You start with bare fists, and as you gain experience, you can unlock clubs, spears, rocks, and language!

[IndianScout]

Re: 1.4 - The End of BF2?

Announcing BF3 - Back to Basics - the Caveman Wars..

you get clubs, rocks, sticks and the aircraft are Pterodactyl, the armor Brontosaurus - Triceratops


:evil: :evil:

[[13]VisciousDog]

Re: 1.4 - The End of BF2?

How about:

BF3: Cave Wars! We all play members of one of 4 cavemen factions. You start with bare fists, and as you gain experience, you can unlock clubs, spears, rocks, and language!

ROFLMAO!..that will be funny. Can imagine the arguements now, in that one, if patch problems or finding out the player is cheating. Here is one, "Since when does a club have a nail in it?" or "Why does clubs look like baseball bats?", "Why do you have more rocks than everyone else?",,,the best one..."I throw 2 rocks at you and your still alive!"

[BigDaddyTX]

Re: 1.4 - The End of BF2?

The more I think about it, the more fun I actually think this would be!

Especially with the Dactyl, Bronto and Triceratops mixed in!

[shiftymoves]

Re: 1.4 - The End of BF2?

Announcing BF3 - Back to Basics - the Caveman Wars..

you get clubs, rocks, sticks and the aircraft are Pterodactyl, the armor Brontosaurus - Triceratops


:evil: :evil:

You craped in my cave HAX...Stole one of my women...Your DinoBuster isn't working:laugh: :laugh:

Thats too g00d