PunkBuster, Key Macros and 1.4

[sm007h]

Re: PunkBuster, Key Macros and 1.4

I don't see why people are against macroing. Battlefield, like most FPS shooters, doesn't have much use for them. The ones I can see right off the bat would be automating the cammo rose (there should be a way to do this anyway, I'd love to bind a key to just roger that or negative) and solo TVing, but that's about it.

have you seriously been playing all this time and didn't realize that PAGEUP is "roger that" and PAGEDOWN is "negative"?!

[Sorrenart]

Re: PunkBuster, Key Macros and 1.4

have you seriously been playing all this time and didn't realize that PAGEUP is "roger that" and PAGEDOWN is "negative"?!

I forgot.

But what of the rest of the cammo rose?

[DosX]

Re: PunkBuster, Key Macros and 1.4

A couple of quick additions to the Controls.con file can make the number pad 2/8 (up and down) and 4/6 (left and right) and 0/5 (selection) keys move you around the command rose.

So you could hit "Q" to bring up command rose, then numpad4 to move left and numpad2 to move down, and that would say "THANKS" (I think thats where thanks is).

Or you could have a macro to Q-NP4-NP2 to say thanks

[imported_shadow2k1]

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Fair gaming field idea
Deal with the macros, cheats, exploits, glitches, etc, but all kidding aside teamspeak and ventrilo could also be used to gain an advantage over your opponent.

in that case anyone with a faster PC then the next guy is considered taking advantage over your opponent.

this is such a stupid fuggin statement ever to blame on teamspeak or vent
LOL

[royaljewellz]

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you know i am so sick of all the whining and complaining that stats have caused with this game, because it continues to lead to more bs from ea, dice, pb, and whoever else keeps adding more bs to this game. so people find ways to dophin dive. if some people would learn how to shoot instead of complaining about it, we wouldn't have this problem. i mean honestly, how many here can't kill somebody flopping around like an idiot? i bet more can, then can't. now look at this macro bs. it is bringing into question other things like software for my mx518 mouse, and vent, and other programs that "can give added advantage" and increase a players score. well hell, whoring a plane can increase ones score. next thing is keyboard and mouse pilots are going to complain in record numbers that using a joystick to fly gives that person an unfair advantage. where is all this bs going to stop? i love the stats, but they need to just do away with them so that maybe the crybabies out there can stop complaining. maybe then, the "legitimate" problems can be fixed.

[imported_Loco_Bandito]

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Why should we push isnt it Punkbusters job to stop it with out us hassling punkbuster. If they are paid to do a job and get rid of cheats then they should do it not wait for the communtiy to ring them and say hey its time for you to do your job. I say Punkbuster just get rid of them ip ban them or hardware ban something severe that way they will never do it again.

[Harmor]

Re: PunkBuster, Key Macros and 1.4

Why don't they do what WoW did? Make hard coded delays at the server side? Seems like EA/DICE don't want to do the programming and are taking the easy way out.

What about other programs like JoyToKey? Seems fishy that only Autohotkey is singled out? Some people have suggested its because the G15 people have paid off EA/DICE and the freeware program, Autohotkey, hasn't. I guess you should always follow the money.

To stop prone spamming, make HARD-CODED severside delays. I don't understand why its so difficult to do this.

[SaS|firestorm]

Re: PunkBuster, Key Macros and 1.4

ill try as hard as i can

[lamah]

Re: PunkBuster, Key Macros and 1.4

*puts in his vote*

KICK MACRO ABUSERS/EXPLOITERS == YES

banning is a lil harsh though, with enough kicks, they'll get the message

[{HHx}b14ze]

Re: PunkBuster, Key Macros and 1.4

So my

- Switch to medic bag
- Toss one bag
- Switch back to primary weapon

macro for my Nostromo is the same as someone elses

No Sky
Unlimited Visability
AutoAim
Colored Skin
MapHack
Drop Artillery
Drop Supplies
Drop Vehicle
Switch Teams
Boot Commander
etc...??

Well then I have no worries from PB. If they can't stop the people who edit the executables and memory locations, there's no way they can stop me from tossing medic bags with one keystroke.

A cheat is still a cheat, cheater!

[DosX]

Re: PunkBuster, Key Macros and 1.4

I'm not a cheater. I use my Nostromo to emulate three keystrokes that most players do quicker then I do! I do have slight carpal tunnel though.

I won't go back to using a keyboard (though I have a G15). The Nostromo has a much better ergo feel to it, and with my partial carpal, I can play much longer with the Nostromo then with a keyboard.

And while they are at it.... my eax/surround headphones definately give me an unfair advantage over other players. I can distinctly hear which direction footsteps/gunshots/vehicles/artillery are all coming from.

It looks like they are taking the "shotgun" approach. Obviously if you have Autokeymacro running then you are using it to cheat at Battlefield 2 and you must be banned. There could be NO OTHER USE for that program except to give you an unfair advantage in a game! ROFL.

{HHx}b14ze - I don't know you, and I'm pretty sure you don't know me either. I don't consider using my Nostromo as cheating. Others (you) might see it differently, and thats fine. But where will the line be drawn? Will someone just having a program loaded on his PC draw a ban?!? Even if it's not being used for anything in BF2? How will they determine that?

*Edit: OH, and compare my little Medic bag tosser to those actual CHEATS. PB can't catch them, so go after someone else. I suppose they have a quota to fill and they certainly aren't catching the real hacks.

[W_Parmenter]

Re: PunkBuster, Key Macros and 1.4

Why don't they do what WoW did? Make hard coded delays at the server side? Seems like EA/DICE don't want to do the programming and are taking the easy way out.

They're going to have to do it eventually, usng PB to ban macros is just a stopgap measure. It would be trivial for the keyboard manufacturers to move the logic to the keyboard itself where PB couldn't see it. All it would take is a few bucks worth of circuitry and some flash memory. An Electronic Engineering 101 student could figure out how to do it.

[Harmor]

Re: PunkBuster, Key Macros and 1.4

Just another reason I'm jumping ship and going to QW.

[imported_TheDragon]

Re: PunkBuster, Key Macros and 1.4

guess I should not be shocked by some of the posters
they think "joy to key" is NOT cheating
they think Nostromo one key to "switch, toss, switch "with one key is not cheating
guess they also think oral sex is not sex
kind of makes one sick at the degradation of our society when people come up with all the justifications why THIER version of standards makes them feel it is ok - to - well - CHEAT !!!!

eg
I cannot type for sh**
I am an old fashion 4 finger typer
how EASY it would be for me to use Auto Key to preload a few text strings
to save me time in the game
ESPECIALLY as admin - stopping to type out warnings
hmmm...... guess if I was part of this YOUNGER mindset - I could say - well that justify my use of a 3rd party program. . . "I mean all it does is help me type faster. . . "

for those that use the take it to the extreme . . saying why not ban users of high end systems as cheat . . . well - that is absurd . . . and they know it

I have been one of the first in these forms to complain about macros
and one of the first to shout they were illegal

glad to see many are jumping on the bandwagon
kind of stupid to hear that PB can do something but wants us to ask first
guess that makes sense - too lazy on their own to read all these forums and see our complaints

BTW - all one has to do is change the names of the macro program and PB will probably be too lazy to think of that - even though there are a few easy ways for then to still detect it

for those that agree with my "society degradation" comments - thanks
for those that do not - look in the mirror
yes this is just a game - and has provided my son and I tons of fun
even he cannot see why , these morons not only cheat, but then try to justify why it is ok to do so


but . . . I was raised - honor and integrity are tested when no one is watching

[Repent]

Re: PunkBuster, Key Macros and 1.4

I've ALWAYS maintained that macros, are cheating. Period.

The key words in your post TopGunGreg are, honor & integrity...something that a large majority of people today haven't a clue of the meaning.