J-10 will NOT be changed in 1.4

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  • buteonidae
    Member
    • Nov 2006
    • 968

    #16
    Re: J-10 will NOT be changed in 1.4

    What a bunch of retards!

    Why not just change the stupid J10 to some other jet?! Argh FFS! This is useless, **** YOU DICE/EA! You can stick the 1.4 up................................................ .................................................. ................................................

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    • colony

      #17
      Re: J-10 will NOT be changed in 1.4

      Originally posted by Sir. Blades
      MAKE THE MISSLES ****ING HIT.

      im done. dont really care that much about manuevaribility. Make the missles hit and I will kick PLAs *** in wake.
      Wait a minute......I thought you said you make them hit all the time

      As for DICE Canada and Colin, If its too much work for you lazy fools, why not just take the f****** J10 out and put in the f****** Mig29 instead.

      I dont believe this is brain surgery. Who the hell gives these guys their checks?

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      • {USI}_DirTyDeeDs
        Member
        • Jun 2005
        • 334

        #18
        Re: J-10 will NOT be changed in 1.4

        you cant fix stupid :laugh:

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        • imported_Nefarious
          Member
          • Feb 2007
          • 1607

          #19
          Re: J-10 will NOT be changed in 1.4

          Great, EA/DICE cancels the nerfing... of the only god dam thing that actually needed nerfing!!!!!

          One of these days a company will come out with a fair and balanced game with out f**king it up in patchs.

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          • Rub-UFS-

            #20
            Re: J-10 will NOT be changed in 1.4

            Holy christ...talk about LAZY!

            This is their JOB. What the hell do they do all day? Honestly?

            We haven't had a patch in a few months now (can't remember exactly when 1.31 came out) but from what I see, the only major fix is the server crash. Which was only introduced after this latest patch. So in essence, we're back to square one, where we started. Do they just sit on their hands all day? Too much reviewing and retuning? That is what they were supposed to be FIXING all this time!!

            I think EA is confused about what a patch is supposed to do exactly. From what we've seen, they only make gameplay worse while introducing new bugs that weren't there before. All they've been doing is adding new 'features' to try and take our minds off the actual problems in the game. Screw co-op, screw IO. JUST FIX THE BUGS! That is all we ask! My goodness...

            This will be the 1st and last game I ever buy from EA. I thought Novaworld was bad. LOL

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            • 12:oc7ock
              Member
              • May 2006
              • 1020

              #21
              Re: J-10 will NOT be changed in 1.4

              Thanks for ruining my day Metallica
              I think this calls for some Corporate Espionage. Anyone got a resume that will get them on the inside????????????:evil:

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              • Chris_Redfield
                Member
                • Oct 2006
                • 5986

                #22
                Re: J-10 will NOT be changed in 1.4

                Originally posted by colony
                Wait a minute......I thought you said you make them hit all the time

                As for DICE Canada and Colin, If its too much work for you lazy fools, why not just take the f****** J10 out and put in the f****** Mig29 instead.

                I dont believe this is brain surgery. Who the hell gives these guys their checks?
                He does, but not under normal circumstances.

                I dont know why you people wont realize why its so hard for DICE to fix the problem. They dont know how, not from the technical point (coding), but from a pilots perspective. Its really simple. They just dont have that experience in jets/choppers to adequately know what to do. This is exactly the time where the community should help, not moan and whine. As far as I know, from my personal experience, missile/jet tweaks to reach the optimal balance IS possible. It takes some time to think it through, to create balance in the bigger and smaller picture, and takes some work (aswell as extensive flight experience) but its definitely doable.

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                • zuiquan1
                  Battleship Mod
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 1318

                  #23
                  Re: J-10 will NOT be changed in 1.4

                  Originally posted by Rub-UFS-
                  We haven't had a patch in a few months now (can't remember exactly when 1.31 came out) but from what I see, the only major fix is the server crash. Which was only introduced after this latest patch. So in essence, we're back to square one, where we started. Do they just sit on their hands all day? Too much reviewing and retuning? That is what they were supposed to be FIXING all this time!!
                  theyre spending most of there time on the stupid f*cking infantry only mode that no one will even play.....

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                  • sassback

                    #24
                    Re: J-10 will NOT be changed in 1.4

                    Originally posted by Sir. Blades
                    MAKE THE MISSLES ****ING HIT.

                    im done. dont really care that much about manuevaribility. Make the missles hit and I will kick PLAs *** in wake.
                    its the J-10s manuverability and speed that makes it impossible for F-35 pilots to keep a lock on it. :p

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                    • colony

                      #25
                      Re: J-10 will NOT be changed in 1.4

                      Originally posted by Chris_Redfield
                      He does, but not under normal circumstances.

                      I dont know why you people wont realize why its so hard for DICE to fix the problem. They dont know how, not from the technical point (coding), but from a pilots perspective. Its really simple. They just dont have that experience in jets/choppers to adequately know what to do. This is exactly the time where the community should help, not moan and whine. As far as I know, from my personal experience, missile/jet tweaks to reach the optimal balance IS possible. It takes some time to think it through, to create balance in the bigger and smaller picture, and takes some work (aswell as extensive flight experience) but its definitely doable.
                      If thats the case, why dont they ask for help from some experienced good pilots? They arent sending a god damn space shuttle into outer space, this aint rocket science.

                      They talk so much about testing, retuning and testing, review, play testing blah blah blah.

                      If they have people who playtest so damn much and they created the damn jets themselves, yet they aint got a damn joystick and dont know how to fly for sh*t?

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                      • Blades

                        #26
                        Re: J-10 will NOT be changed in 1.4

                        Originally posted by colony
                        Wait a minute......I thought you said you make them hit all the time

                        As for DICE Canada and Colin, If its too much work for you lazy fools, why not just take the f****** J10 out and put in the f****** Mig29 instead.

                        I dont believe this is brain surgery. Who the hell gives these guys their checks?
                        i dont make them hit all the time. I have said that it is only 75% success rate while J10s are 100% effective. Make them ALL 100% or 0% end of story.

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                        • |-TC-| NZSAS-Trooper

                          #27
                          Re: J-10 will NOT be changed in 1.4

                          dice should just make the j-10 a lil slower

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                          • Chris_Redfield
                            Member
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 5986

                            #28
                            Re: J-10 will NOT be changed in 1.4

                            Originally posted by colony
                            If thats the case, why dont they ask for help from some experienced good pilots? They arent sending a god damn space shuttle into outer space, this aint rocket science.
                            They actually are. If I get this right, we may have an issue we did with CAPCOM. With CAPCOM, we as Resident Evil fans could not "ask" for something nor "give suggestions", as the story went more complex and CAPCOM started making some mistakes or whatnot. When we did, we got answers like "CAPCOM can not accept any ideas from fans due to legal issues". Ive been a member of CC official forums for 4-5 years now and its truly disappointing, but I know where they are coming from.

                            The other issue is, have a look at the suggestions so far. Vast majority of them are... just some odd personal opinions and backed up by "what ifs" and "maybes". Check PlaneWhores last suggestion, the cannon-only one. He thinks hes a good idea, and if some things match, it can be a working idea in practice. However he didnt provide any information on detailed execution of his idea, so DICE essentially has to do all the pre-work, adjustments, testing, afterwork, and realise that the idea will fail.

                            This is really simple, they dont know what to do, how exactly to do it. They check these forums for game feedback, and they have this game ready (so so), adjustment to jets that would be working will span through 4 fighters and 3 bombers, plus the helo-jet balance aswell as STA/ATS balance. This is really hard thing to do. A suggestion thats been made shouldnt only be good on paper and in your mind, it should actually be good enough to give DICE a reason to try to do something with it. Thats probably why most of suggestions, almost all of them, get ignored. DICE may agree with them, but iimplementing them is sh!tload of work with no quarantees.

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                            • Uberduber

                              #29
                              Re: J-10 will NOT be changed in 1.4

                              Originally posted by colony
                              I dont believe this is brain surgery. Who the hell gives these guys their checks?
                              We, the customers, do. :nod:

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                              • Chris_Redfield
                                Member
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 5986

                                #30
                                Re: J-10 will NOT be changed in 1.4

                                Originally posted by colony

                                If they have people who playtest so damn much and they created the damn jets themselves, yet they aint got a damn joystick and dont know how to fly for sh*t?
                                This isnt that simple. Check my point of view on jets and how I value maneuverabilty and whatnot. Compare it to the rest of the board. Everyones got their own point of view. Almost none of these people have provided any quarantees that they are right and their ideas would work. You see?

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