[xXx]gh0st's view on Infantry Only (IO)

[Bungalow_Bill]

Re: [xXx]gh0st's view on Infantry Only (IO)

God I Hate Vehicles Why Was Dice So Stupid To Put Vehicles In Battlefield 2 Modern Combat? If It Wasn't For Those Pesky Vehicles I'd Be Able To Get 200 Points A Round Wahhhhhhhh Mommy Wahhhhhh Make Them Go Away!!!

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Re: [xXx]gh0st's view on Infantry Only (IO)

God I Hate Vehicles Why Was Dice So Stupid To Put Vehicles In Battlefield 2 Modern Combat? If It Wasn't For Those Pesky Vehicles I'd Be Able To Get 200 Points A Round Wahhhhhhhh Mommy Wahhhhhh Make Them Go Away!!!

Wow, that was mature. Coming from a plane whore haha you opinion of infantry means squat. Let me guess, you're all uptight about it because now there will be less people for you to bomb? Awww poor baby.

Why can't you guys just get over it? Some people like this game, and don't like vehicles. I can't fathom why you would have any problem with that. You want to make everyone play what you want, we all play the game, and enjoy different aspects of it. You like flying around in your little plane, some like running around Karland shooting people with a gun, why are you so damn hellbent on turning what OTHER people enjoy into some crusade?

Tell you what, you pay for my copy of the game, and then you can try dictating how I play. Till then just stay in your yard, and i'll stay in mine.

[Bungalow_Bill]

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Considering I've logged 2.5x the play time on my medic than I have in any vehicle I'm more than qualified to comment on infantry related matters.

Listen.. if you're really that hard up for a great class based infantry shooter I've got a couple recommendation for you.

Play Counterstrike:Source till later this year..

and then switch over to TeamFortress 2 when it's released http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/ha...de2/media.html (watch the TF2 trailer.. and yes that is actual ingame footage not CGI).

If that doesn't do it for you then keep trying the 1000 other online infantry only FPS that are available till you find one you like.

[Auto-ER-]

Re: [xXx]gh0st's view on Infantry Only (IO)

Considering I've logged 2.5x the play time on my medic than I have in any vehicle I'm more than qualified to comment on infantry related matters.

Listen.. if you're really that hard up for a great class based infantry shooter I've got a couple recommendation for you.

Play Counterstrike:Source till later this year..

and then switch over to TeamFortress 2 when it's released http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/ha...de2/media.html (watch the TF2 trailer.. and yes that is actual ingame footage not CGI).

If that doesn't do it for you then keep trying the 1000 other online infantry only FPS that are available till you find one you like.

I have one I like, it's BF2, and I'd like morons like you to stop trying to impose your will on my game.

I've got plenty of time in vehicles, but I like groundpounding, and if I can have a round where I get to go player to player without them sitting at a spawn point with a tank blasting away, than all the better.

Sorry, but no matter the size of you ego, it is not your place to tell others what they can enjoy in a game, get over yourself.

And teh argument that it is going to be all medics is ridiculous. If that was the case, no one would play support, spec ops, sniper, assault at all as it is. People like certain classes for whatever reason, and are going to play them where ever. one of my team mates absolutely brutal with a USMC pump shotty, and he'll take it into infantry only over medic anyday. I know plenty of players that won't play medic, they don't like it.

[preem]

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Actually TF2 is gonna be awesome, and i got another, Portal, how cool is that gonna be ?!!

As for the post matter:

There are what, 10,12 official maps? You choose your kit, and your style of play depending on map. Example:

Fushee comes up, what you gonna take ? You a tank whore - engie and try and steal armor somewhere. You a chopper whore - you gonna wait on helipad for half the round. You dont rly care about vehicles ? - AT, get a jeep and sail across the map, cap the flag, take out apc or two and voila.

Next map, karkand; tank whore is gonna go engie for sure, and sit on USMC main base, waiting for his preciouss. I always said Karkand is the most boring map in BF2 for public play. Couse you always have 3 idiots, driving around in USMC tank/apc and MEC tank; rest of them, are infa lovers - and they are gonna choose medic, why you ask ? couse is the best kit in bf2. unlimited health, great gun, long sprints - untill you come across that apc ******* behind the corner, then youre toast - but never the less its a great kit.

I for myself kindly accpet IO mode, you dont want it ? Go base the carrier on Dalian or smth, like 90% of your bf2 time. But ofc IO is not for ANY map, these city based onces, othes are just fine as they are - that is if you find free jet/heli siting there, otherwise its just boring.

And yes, ppl do care about stats ? why? couse you're all statspadders

j/k

[Bungalow_Bill]

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I have one I like, it's BF2, and I'd like morons like you to stop trying to impose your will on my game.

I've got plenty of time in vehicles, but I like groundpounding, and if I can have a round where I get to go player to player without them sitting at a spawn point with a tank blasting away, than all the better.

Sorry, but no matter the size of you ego, it is not your place to tell other what they can enjoy in a game, get over yourself.

Why exactly do you like BF2? The only thing that seperates BF2 from other games is the team commanders and vehicles yet for some odd reason you want to get rid of both. Ranking Battlefield on just the quality of the infantry combat it's nothing more than a medicore FPS at best.

Ohhh boohoo a tank blasting away! If only infantry had a way to deal with tanks! Oh wait, they have several. TOW missile to the treads - dead tank, 2 AT missiles to the treads - dead tank, 2 sneaky C4 packs or even a jihad jeep - overkill. On a related note I notice that the worst players are the ones who get dominated by armor. The careless type that doesn't peak around that corner before they go sprinting out to whore some easy revive points. I die to little to all vehicles (that includes tanks, APCs, airplanes and helicopters) it's laughable. I die more to the 50cal mounted machine guns and claymores than I do to those vehicles. They're so easy to avoid it's ridiculous that some players seem to view them as an impossible obstacle.

Actually TF2 is gonna be awesome, and i got another, Portal, how cool is that gonna be ?!!

Yes TF2 is going to be heavenly, some of the best times I've ever had on an FPS were setting up a fully upgraded turret in that "sweet spot" and watching it mow players down. That and of course on 2fort heading down to the enemy balcony as a spy pretending to be a sniper and then sending the real snipers flying over the edge with a knife to the back of the skull. That game was awesome. Portal looks great too. Dare I even mention a HL2 deathmatch with the portal gun... that would be incredible (I just hope Valve is smart enough to add it to a deathmatch mode in one form or another).

[preem]

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Ohhh boohoo a tank blasting away! If only infantry had a way to deal with tanks!

hm tja, actually this is the case what i and all other clanmates do when we come across the tank in lets say fushee, or gulf, maybe even dragon valley. Some of guys take heavy machinery, some others grab an AT and go with jeeps to cap flags, fast mobility and that schitt, so you gotta have an anti-tank.

But that is not the case in karkand, sorry my friend, but that is rly not the case? why? because half the nerds that sit in an apc on karkand, dont do ANYTHING ELSE, but sit in the alley behind hotel and spawncamp on you. Ok, stop whining and do smth! that is usualy what i say, but c'mon, karkand which is supposed to be 'infa kinda' map, some butthole sits in his apc and camps all round long. now give me a break, but mainly couse of these kinds of ppl i kindly accept IO. mainly.

ps: portal gun in multiplayer? wow, now that could be our next game

[Auto-ER-]

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Why exactly do you like BF2? The only thing that seperates BF2 from other games is the team commanders and vehicles yet for some odd reason you want to get rid of both. Ranking Battlefield on just the quality of the infantry combat it's nothing more than a medicore FPS at best.

Because it's fun. Counterstike is lame, join a server after downloading admin plug ins for an hour, wait till the current round ends, run around for two minutes, get killed, sit there till next round...boring. BF2 a modern FPS, arcade shooter, fast paced, easy action, that isn't boring with a lot of waiting, can jump in any number of vehicles if I want, and a good team experiance, all with pretty graphics.

Ohhh boohoo a tank blasting away! If only infantry had a way to deal with tanks! Oh wait, they have several. TOW missile to the treads - dead tank, 2 AT missiles to the treads - dead tank, 2 sneaky C4 packs or even a jihad jeep - overkill. On a related note I notice that the worst players are the ones who get dominated by armor. The careless type that doesn't peak around that corner before they go sprinting out to whore some easy revive points. I die to little to all vehicles (that includes tanks, APCs, airplanes and helicopters) it's laughable. I die more to the 50cal mounted machine guns and claymores than I do to those vehicles. They're so easy to avoid it's ridiculous that some players seem to view them as an impossible obstacle.

I have no problems avoiding/destroying tanks.

Like I said, since you don't get the concept of infantry only fighting, and why infantry only would actually be a fun mode, you just stay in your little plane, on your regular server and leave other peoples enjoyment alone.

[frazzman]

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God I Hate Vehicles Why Was Dice So Stupid To Put Vehicles In Battlefield 2 Modern Combat? If It Wasn't For Those Pesky Vehicles I'd Be Able To Get 200 Points A Round Wahhhhhhhh Mommy Wahhhhhh Make Them Go Away!!!

ROFL what a tosspot..., your only sore coz youll have less infantry to pwn with your 3000:0 KDR whoreing it up in a pane as you name says.

Idiot, cant belive some ppl here are taken in with your self obsession too.., maybe they are your fanbois also.
IO mode is here to stay suck it up and it wil be more than likely ranked too so your precious plane stats will be threatened by ground pounders

OH NOES!!!111!!

get a life and a personality Planewhore and keep off the caffine.

what a wahhhhh post. :|:

[DrJambo]

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*Applauds OP's post*

To think that IO will end up balanced in any way shape or form with the medic class currently the way it is is the definition of 'denial'. Sure, at first you'll see a mix of classes scattered throughout, and sooner or later when everyone realises that there are HUGE points to be had from playing medic, not to mention the ability to extend rounds almost indefinitely (no tickets lost from deaths) and even extend one's own health by self-healing between firefights (as if this will be necessary -- I can almost predict servers crashing when there are 250+ medic bags all around the Square on Karkand and the engine won't be able to render all those distance markers and red crosses :p ). Add in assault rifles and the ability to revive everyone and almost nobody will die, and everyone will gain massive points in the process. Once this catches on it will be akin to the 1.2 PKM, where at first only a few people started out using it until it became widely known that single-shot and prone could shoot the tick off a redneck's butt from max visual range whereupon EVERYONE was using PKM. It was PKMfield. The only refuge was inside a vehicle. It took DICE almost no time to fix that issue, and now we'll have an even bigger one. Once people get tired of trying to snipe when there are 10 bunnyhopping medics tossing bags about and leaping onto the fallen teammate that gets sniped only to have all of them drop down prone in unison and G36E the bajeezus out of that very sniper, they too will be almost 'forced' to become a medic themselves and enter the fracus.

Thing is, BF2 wasn't designed, nor is it currently balanced, for infantry-only combat. The more infantry-oriented maps (city maps Karkand, Sharqi, Mashtuur) still have at least a tank or two to keep everything in check because no matter how good of a medic you are, you are NOT going to be able to G36E someone out of a T-90. Remove that and medics have no natural 'predators' to keep them in check and instantly become the gods of the battlefield. It may not happen straight away and those who have played IO thus far probably haven't seen it yet (largely in part, I'm sure, because it's a beta and the more 'casual' gamers either don't know about it or CBA to mess around with a beta patch), but once 1.4 goes live and IO becomes ranked, then you can say goodbye to regular BF2 and hello to MedicField 2. To make IO truly balanced and diverse, they would need to make many tweaks to the current maps and the current class systems which, as PlaneWhore mentioned, would be time much better spent on fixing up bugs and already-existing balance issues.

Edit: Oh yeah, and let's not even mention how it will skew the ranking system all to crap. That should go without saying. You will start to see a LOT of people with HUGE KDRs with infantry weapons that more than likely flat out suck with guns but they'll be revived nine times out of ten so even if they only kill 3 soldiers for every 10 times they get killed they'll still end up with a 3:1 KDR with rifles. Although the current ranking system is rubbish as it is right now anyway so in reality it won't much matter, but for those who like to compare their stats to others' (even though it's pretty unfair to compare stats of two players because of how dynamic BF2 is) will have a tough time because there'll be no way to tell if someone is just godlike with a gun or if they only play IO.

My 2¢.

~Wolfgang

Spot on Wolfgang. Exactly what I think too. IO is the medic's licence for free reign. A whole squad of medics (read 6 of them) will be nigh on impossible to stop!

In fact, let's hear from the IO supporters here as to how they plan to stop a full squad of medics?????

[preem]

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Why would you wanna stop a full squad of medics ?

[ActiveMatx]

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You guys, seriously, it is MUCH EASIER to point farm with a tank, or a jet, etc.

There will be more medics diving up the points. Its not going to ruin the game in any shape or form, more than it currently is. Im not even going to bother, trying to convince you guys, otherwise, since you seem so addiment about it already.

Just watch and see, and stop spreading rumours and allegations that haven't even started yet.

[System]

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Spot on Wolfgang. Exactly what I think too. IO is the medic's licence for free reign. A whole squad of medics (read 6 of them) will be nigh on impossible to stop!

In fact, let's hear from the IO supporters here as to how they plan to stop a full squad of medics?????

mmm support

nades, bunch of medics sitting on one another reviving/healing each other....

*BANG BOOM CRACK*

oh look, there goes your 6 man medic squad.

[Chris_Redfield]

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Gaming news today.

*Battlefield 2 official 1.4 patch will include "Infantry Only" mode, and new content, such as smoe grenades for everyone, flashbangs for everyone, disabling all classes except medic. DICE will also include 3 new maps in the patch, Dust, Aztec and Dust 2.

*Unreat Tournament 2004 developers came to a conclusion that in order to gain more profit, the new patch (1.2 GBs) will add "Opposing Strike" mod, with maps such as Deo Dusto, Deo Aztecio and Neo Dusto Duo.

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Why would anyone want to play a game without threats that actually make the game what it really is? Battlefield game with vehicles. If you have a problem with spawncamping tanks, JIHAAD JEEP is an answer or even better, spawn at the next flag and for gods sake take the AT launcher with you...

This is all so ridiculous.

[Bungalow_Bill]

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join a server after downloading admin plug ins for an hour

Haven't encountered that yet. Maybe patience isn't one of your virtues. Or maybe you're just looking for excuses to justify why you want stat pad mode.

wait till the current round ends, run around for two minutes, get killed, sit there till next round

Ahh now we're getting to the root of the problem. In a game where skill is much more of a factor you get slaughtered. In that case I feel sorry for you. This goes right in line with a player wanting IO mode. Can't handle vehicles so they whine for IO mode, can't handle a heavily skilled based game so they don't play it. Both games have a timer after death, Battlefields just happens to be shorter. But if you don't die you don't have a problem.

BF2 a modern FPS

Modern in what regard? The source engine was released only a short time before Battlefield 2. Mods like Day of Defeat are technically newer than BF2. Now if you're talking modern as in.. vehicles. If that's what you meant then heh that comment is amusing.

fast paced

Counterstrike is much more fast paced than BF2, UT even moreso than CS.

easy action

You don't need to mention that you like easy games more than once. By now we all know you like easy games, and they don't get much easier than Battlefield 2 without vehicles.

that isn't boring with a lot of waiting

Going to be more waiting in BF2 IO than in CS:S if you're a ****ty player. Because in IO mode you're going to have to walk to distant spawns.. yeah have fun with that.

can jump in any number of vehicles if I want

LOL the IO mode fanboy talking about how much he loves "any number of vehicles" So which is it.. IO mode or vanilla BF2? Let me guess.. IO mode if you can't get in the APC and vanilla BF2 when you do. Can't have it both ways.

all with pretty graphics.

I like the way the source engine looks personally. Moreso with HDR lighting and the fact I can run max AA and ASF and never have it drop below 90 frames.