Arrow keys or w,a,s,d keys?

[imported_Wasp]

Re: Arrow keys or w,a,s,d keys?

I'm left handed and use my AA setup to play. I, j, k, l for movement. Space for jump, - for crouch and right shift for sprint. I have 4 weapons on my mouse. Mwheel up rifle, mwheel down pistol etc..

[DeadCRAP_]

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wow i jsut did the extreme. xbox 360 controllers can work on computers when installing a patch for it. u said it. i use the controller for infantry movement etc

[Nanten]

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wasd, definetly :)

Tho, other buttons might be odd to someone...

mouse 3 (pressing the scroll wheel) for knife
mouse 4 (under thumb) for prone
mouse 5 (also under thumb) for parachute
mouse 6 (middle thumb button) for pistol
mouse 7 (button under scrollwheel) for main weapon

[DeadCRAP_]

Re: Arrow keys or w,a,s,d keys?

wasd, definetly :)

Tho, other buttons might be odd to someone...

mouse 3 (pressing the scroll wheel) for knife
mouse 4 (under thumb) for prone
mouse 5 (also under thumb) for parachute
mouse 6 (middle thumb button) for pistol
mouse 7 (button under scrollwheel) for main weapon

odd setup :hmm: do u have one of those mouses that have alot of buttons on them?

[ActiveMatx]

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wow i jsut did the extreme. xbox 360 controllers can work on computers when installing a patch for it. u said it. i use the controller for infantry movement etc

Wow, so you use the xbox controller for everything.... how do u aim at people? especially when they are jumping all around the place...... :cry:

[N2K]

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WASD FTW!!! Just to move around on foot, duh!

Since all the other keys are around it.

[soroth]

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for all you crazies who still use arrows; doesnt it feel weird having your mouse hand right next to your other hand? That would really annoy me...

Well, you could move your keyboard to the left so you won't get that problem :)
I prefer the arrow keys because you have some space left (for resting some fingers :) ) and the chance that you push a wrong button is very minimal.. The distance between the arrow keys and my weapon keys (Insert, Delete etc) and the other keys (ctrl/right shift/keypads) is optimal for me and I use it since Wolfenstein came out so it's a sort of automatism now.. :)

[XxS0ULxX]

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I use

space is backwards
mouse 2 is forwards
S is jump
A and D same as normal
left shift is run
left ctrl is crouch
Z is prone
X and left mouse fire
middle mouse scroll button zoom when pressed
W is main weapon 3
Left alt is knife
F is pistol
E main radio
T enter exit

This would be hard to convert to. I teach people this way and the people who start this way are happy and find aswd just as strange as this setup will seem to most people.
this works well with a split keyboard but the non splittters tend to use a diff key for crouch

XxS0ULxX

[asdasdasd123]

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k, arrow keys unless you're left handed and put the mouse to the left of your keyboard is for remedial kids, that are too fussy and remedial that they need to have little pictures on their keys to tell them what direction they go. it's for *** remedial P.O.S's

[evilzucchini]

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UHJK never even crossed my mind, thanks to enlightening me i think ill probably try that tonight.

As for me for the moment I use WASD although I still use the arrow keys for delta force and a few other games.

evilzucchini do you think you could tell me a basic setup of the keys you use.

I would. . . but it ALL dependant on the number of buttons you have on your mouse.

I have 8 buttons on my mouse. . .I pretty much put everything there that I need to use in the heat of battle. Main weapon, spot, comm rose, 2ndary weapon, fire, ironsights, squad talk.

Under my thumb I have, right-win sprint, right-alt crouch, space jump (I can also hit this with my pinky so I can do sprint jumps no problem).

I keep prone right under where is comfortable for my pinky (happens to be 'v,' Although, if you do prone jumping, this is not a great place for it).

Y = shockpaddle
I = pistol
o = enter/exit
L = medpack
; = parachute
, = knife
m = talk (commander talk)
g,f = switch seats or camera views
c = zoom minimap
x = bring up map

I pretty much have everything I need right around my finger tips. I can switch to anything and everything with a single button push without moving my hand.

My set up totally kicks ***.

Except that the current setup I have is perfectly fine for me. There isn't a button I need that I can't reach, so why bother changing something unnecessarily? You know, KISS, if it ain't broke don't fix it, etc.

~Wolfgang

I don't mean to be arrogant (okay, maybe I do :)) but if you are using the arrow keys you have to move your fingers off of them to do certain things.

You have to move your hand, while my hand does not move, I just do a quick finger press.

Believe me, I have been playing FPS since wolfenstein. I have tried a million different setups and using the arrow keys puts you at a distinct disadvantage.

[PsYcHo.KiLLa]

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w - middle finger
a - ring finger
d - pointer finger
s - middle finger
space (jump) - thumb
left ctrl (crouch) - pinky
z (prone) - middle finger
left shift (sprint) - pinky

[WolfAlmighty]

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I don't mean to be arrogant (okay, maybe I do :)) but if you are using the arrow keys you have to move your fingers off of them to do certain things.

Really? Like what? Okay, yes, I have to move my hand off of them to go grab my joystick when I hop in a jet, or when I want to type out a message to the team, but otherwise, when exactly do I have to move them off of the arrow keys? In 930 hours I have yet to find such an example. Care to elabourate?

You have to move your hand, while my hand does not move, I just do a quick finger press.

Again, no, I don't. I have to move my fingers off of one button to press another just like you do, but the hand itself doesn't have to move at all, barring the few instances I mention above. Oh yeah, I have to move it every now and again to adjust my mic if my squadmates can't quite hear me. Forgot that one earlier.

Believe me, I have been playing FPS since wolfenstein. I have tried a million different setups and using the arrow keys puts you at a distinct disadvantage.

As have I, and I don't see what distinct disadvantage you're referring to. Unless you're saying me having my hand on the arrow keys instead of WASD is what's giving me lag, connection problems, causing the servers to crash and also accounts for random bullet deviation, of course.

~Wolfgang

[-=TS=-stuntridah]

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Ok i dont know if everybodys sick of hearing other ppl controlls yet but I have to throw mine in I think its great. I am a right hand mouse user and wasd all the way so on to it my mouse

-left btn=fire
-right btn=zoom
-mid btn=main wepon
-side scroll left=grenades/GL/at rocket(i like this one)
-side scroll right=pistol
-default internet back btn=voip
and 2 btn under mmb for sensitivity more for tank less for sniper
if I click my mmb while my main is out it switches firing modes

-wasd=normal movment
-q=comma rose
-e=enter/exit
-r=reload
-f=weapon 5 (helth pach/ammo pack,clay,mines,c4)
-g=pickup kit
-z=prone
-c=weapon 6 (difibs)
-x=starts fraps recording
-v=fraps screenshot
-b=switch views
-rt alt=ptt teamspeak/vent
-lt alt=parachute
-spc bar=jump
-lt shift=run
-lft ctl=crouch

[914 motob]

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I got really screwed up using wasd. My pointer finger would always go to the "f" for home row. once I lift my hand off the keyboard, my habit from typing would find the "f" key and I'd be messed up in a firefight- So I had to learn something new. Crazy, but I swap my mouse to the other side of the keyboard and use my left hand for the mouse and all my infantry controls in the 10 key!

Num5: fwd
Num4: left
Num:6 right
Num:2 back

Num8: enter/exit vehicle
Num7: reload
Num0: prone
NumEnter:crouch
right arrow: jump

PgDown: talk
pgUP: Commander talk
Home: main radio
End: secondary radio

other arrow keys: Camera views
spacebar: parachute

[evilzucchini]

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Really? Like what? Okay, yes, I have to move my hand off of them to go grab my joystick when I hop in a jet, or when I want to type out a message to the team, but otherwise, when exactly do I have to move them off of the arrow keys? In 930 hours I have yet to find such an example. Care to elabourate?

I can hit y, i, o, l, ;, ,, m, n, b, v, c, b, g, f, t, rightwin, rightalt, space all without shifting my hand position at all. That's 18 keys.

From the arrow keys, I can hit Ctl, shift and 0 and 1 on the num pad allowing similar hand shifting. That's 4 buttons vs 18. I use everything single one of those 18 keys all the time. Maybe 2 of those 18 I don't need such quick access to, but it is nice just the same.

As have I, and I don't see what distinct disadvantage you're referring to. Unless you're saying me having my hand on the arrow keys instead of WASD is what's giving me lag, connection problems, causing the servers to crash and also accounts for random bullet deviation, of course.

~Wolfgang

The advantage comes from the fact that I have access to 18 keys without shifting my hand position at all. I can hit any of these buttons instantly, you have to shift and then press to get to most of your keys. It may only be a tenth of a second slower, but that is a lot in an FPS. On top of that, I don't know how you can have access to 18 keys at all from that position without MORE than a shift and an actually movement of your hand.

There are no buttons immediately adjacent to the arrow keys. There are 11 keys immediately adjacent to UHJK. Not only that, but with your hand on the arrow keys, there are no buttons immediately under the natural position of the thumb, I have 3 under there. How can you not see the advantage of that?