The support/Medic bag nerf..let the whining begin.

[Eddy01741]

Re: The support/Medic bag nerf..let the whining begin.

I mean totally remove the first aid bags thing. And add in something such as injection to make up healing. Then there would be any first aid bags everywhere, but people crying "I need a medic!!" as they really do in real combat.

And reviving should bring in no point; the revived guys have a minimal health bar, then the medic have to heal the half dead comrade to get in point. Say good bye to infantry-murdering G36E-equiped medic squad.

What do you think? Yea, a bit too complicated.

I like it, either the first idea, or the second, but not both, as that would be too much of a nerf, htough i'm fine with both, all the die hard medics will be ****ed. ANyways, it's a bit complicated.

[HowieMandel]

Re: The support/Medic bag nerf..let the whining begin.

p.s. and you wouldn't get 20 healpoints for driving a humvee next to 20 injured guys coz you have to heall 100% of health to get a heal, and you cant heal dead ppl to get it so from those 20 injured u'd be lucky to get bout 3 heals

Yes i understand this, and was being somewhat exaturative to be alittle more bold with my statement.
But you said yourself, you might get 3 heals. Bottom line to my statement, and you probally got it, because you seem like someone who realizes there are 2 sides of a coin, is that, the mere fact that you can drive by someone/something and get points..........borders on retardation.

a medic needs to be able to kill just as well as other people, else they cant clear out enemies and revive their team mates.
stopping a medic from self healing would be silly as well, since no one else bothers to give u a medic pack. but then it does annoy me when i snipe a medic and he heals himself, a damage boost would sort that tho. but can you see when people think about nerfing things, its swings and roundabouts, do something to things and it affects something else.

what a catch 22.

I want my easy "stumble" bag points. My "risk-all end-all" dive into major firefights, and revive team mates who surely will die 1 second after I do so.....
plus i want a weapon that will clear out enemies.

Geezuz. How about we give you a nuclear weapon too....... Cheap medic points. Nice weapon to get nice kills...and if you still feel like you need more points......... launch your nuke, and watch the points roll in for you.
Would you like anything else?

Bring back the med cabinets from BF1942. They worked. However to appease medics.....keep the revive with the point for doing so, however add a big, and quick and easy to get to button that disallows one to be revived should they not want to be.
Problem solved.

[Combined]

Re: The support/Medic bag nerf..let the whining begin.

Bring back the med cabinets from BF1942. They worked. However to appease medics.....keep the revive with the point for doing so, however add a big, and quick and easy to get to button that disallows one to be revived should they not want to be.
Problem solved.

What an awful idea.

People would spam claymores & C4 at the med cabinets.

[Eddy01741]

Re: The support/Medic bag nerf..let the whining begin.

What an awful idea.

People would spam claymores & C4 at the med cabinets.

Yea, they would, anyways, i think they should reduce revive points to 1 point from 2 points, that would discourage medics, cuz then you get more points for kill, than revive.

[Galdigor]

Re: The support/Medic bag nerf..let the whining begin.

if this is gonna happen you will get lots of TKing....
people will start to shoot eachother and then revivve ...

[HowieMandel]

Re: The support/Medic bag nerf..let the whining begin.

Yeah, God forbid you actually have to gaurd something in the game, or worry about something being gaurded.
As I know how most of you guys play.

12 guys attack a flag, get it, then 12 guys leave that flag, and move on. Oh, that flag you just got........the 12 of you.....after you left, one guy came in, and re-took it, while you were gone.

Oh, and arnt flag areas spammed with c4 and clays? Having ONE more item for c4 artists and claymore freaks to use of ammon on...........thats a good thing. DO you put c4 around the med cab, or the flag? Hmmmmmmm choices.

[Eddy01741]

Re: The support/Medic bag nerf..let the whining begin.

if this is gonna happen you will get lots of TKing....
people will start to shoot eachother and then revivve ...

No, you get -4 points, as you get -2 points for team damage, and another -2 for team kill, you will only get -2 if you use knife, but still, you wont gain any points, but it annoys them, also, if you get punished enough times, you get kicked.

[HowieMandel]

Re: The support/Medic bag nerf..let the whining begin.

if this is gonna happen you will get lots of TKing....
people will start to shoot eachother and then revivve ...

Then they get a stats wipe.

[Eddy01741]

Re: The support/Medic bag nerf..let the whining begin.

Then they get a stats wipe.

theres no point in doing that, you gain and lose same amount of points, it just annoys people.

[HowieMandel]

Re: The support/Medic bag nerf..let the whining begin.

I dont know then........to be honest i like the game as it is...im simply using this forum to discuss things...............that everyone is discussing. :)

Either do away with bag dropping together.
Give the medics a crap gun. (i use medic sometimes simply for the gun use)

ah heck with it..i dont care what medics do......just give me a friggen button that, so when i die, i can instantly hit it, and it makes me unrevivable, without me having to do alot of things. Just die.....hit button.
Other then that, they can do whatever they want. :)

[Eddy01741]

Re: The support/Medic bag nerf..let the whining begin.

I dont know then........to be honest i like the game as it is...im simply using this forum to discuss things...............that everyone is discussing. :)

Either do away with bag dropping together.
Give the medics a crap gun. (i use medic sometimes simply for the gun use)

ah heck with it..i dont care what medics do......just give me a friggen button that, so when i die, i can instantly hit it, and it makes me unrevivable, without me having to do alot of things. Just die.....hit button.
Other then that, they can do whatever they want. :)

Just press enter and press suicide, you get -2 points, but no medics can revive ya.

[HowieMandel]

Re: The support/Medic bag nerf..let the whining begin.

Just press enter and press suicide, you get -2 points, but no medics can revive ya.

I understand that........but why should i take a penalty, simply so a medic cant revive me, while im under the tracks of a tank, surrounded by 3 apc's and 30 enemy soldiers? When I could simply respawn AT at a nearby flag, and eliminate the threats? Instead, i should take another cut in my points, so he cant get more points?

Thats bad logic........right?

I mean..... an insurance agent shows up to my house. Im alittle gullible so im thinking of buying it, just to get him outta my house. Then I think...wait, if i cut both my hands off right now......i cant sign nothing, so im free and clear.
No, i should be able to shut the door in his face before he can even say, "HI, IM BOB WITH......... (DOOR SLAM).

[OhTheHumanity420]

Re: The support/Medic bag nerf..let the whining begin.

because I get revived in front of 2 tanks, 2 helos, and 32 enemy soldiers

Most of the time when I revive people in that situation they just sit there and keep shooting and they die again because they didn't move. So, if they're stupid enough to do that hell yeah I'll take advantage and get me some points.

In cases such as yours I'll throw down a medic bag first and then revive you so if you do get shot you have a chance to get out of the way. Sometimes if I knew how you died I'll run out in to the open, and maybe throw a nade in the general direction of the enemy just to maybe buy us some time before I revive. Remember they'res no way to know if you want to be revived or not, and I'm not going to stop reviving people because then I'd become one of those hated medics that doesn't do his job.

Gee wiz...and I was going to suggest that Engineers be able to down down 'Toolboxes'!!! :P

I was going to suggest the same thing, Engies are too weak when it comes to support or AT LEAST make it so they can repair faster.

and i chase him and he runs away, i eventually get killed when he runs round a corner into sum MG proner.

God I hate that, especially the ones who call for medics and then run away.

1 question: Your squad gets wasted by a lone PKM'er...

I hide behind a wall to protect my squad mates and then when they spawn order them to flank him.

but at least you can do me a favor and NOT REVIVE ME.

I understand where you're comin from man, but the problem with that is there's no mechanism for me to know whether you want to be revived or not, and I'm not about to memorize the name of every person who doesn't like getting revived. I do see where you're comin from but you gotta see where I'm coming from. They should make it so you can suicide while "critically wounded" and not lose any points for it, can we agree on that?

I think it's the weapon of medic should get nerfed. Medics are totally overpowered comparing with assault class

If people think they why don't they just play as a medic? I've never gotten that part of it.

as the game cant tell apart your own dropped med bags, and your opponents.

Yeah it can, it knows when it's your bag because it gives you points when someone else picks it up.

it does annoy me when i snipe a medic and he heals himself

A medic who is intent on helping his team has 1 main job: Stay alive so he can revive/heal his team members, I will admit I hate medics who DON'T heal their team and only themselves, but I've hated that since 42 with the allied medics. (IMHO the cheapest class EVER)

Can someone host this video on Putfile or Youtube?

I can't do that, but here's a link to it in wmv format which is what I would use on putfile anyway.

http://217.116.224.151/dk4_2006/GZTV/GZTVBootcamp/Bootcamp_FPS_DICE.wmv

[HowieMandel]

Re: The support/Medic bag nerf..let the whining begin.

dont know man.......dont know

[vbl]

Re: The support/Medic bag nerf..let the whining begin.

This doesn't really bother me.

It would bother me if they changed it so Medics and Support players couldn't use their bags on themselves.