Pilots get abused so badly

[UnknownSoldier]

Re: Pilots get abused so badly

...Incidentally, there's nothing sweeter than talking out an enemy jet with an AT rocket. Especially a second after they've hopped in in full expectation of blanket bombing noob pwnage.

Actually there is: taking out an enemy jet with an AT rocket--in mid-air. It's difficult, but it can be done in the right situation.

[Hilliar]

Re: Pilots get abused so badly

don't fly for kills , fly to support your team and take out possible threats to them

And you wonder why you guys get so much stick? 90% of the pilots I've seen couldn't give a **** about 'supporting' the team... they're always too busy whoring around racking up the kills than concerned about supporting their team by taking out the guy in the other jet.

[Chris_Redfield]

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And you wonder why you guys get so much stick? 90% of the pilots I've seen couldn't give a **** about 'supporting' the team... they're always too busy whoring around racking up the kills than concerned about supporting their team by taking out the guy in the other jet.

And 90% of infantry players think that if they see me get 2 kills they think I raped the uncappable, when in reality I just took down the bomber that was bombing them, later they evolve blond hatred against pilots.

Oh, and later, when I carpet bomb the entire flag clean, so they can cap it with no casualty, I cant hear a single "thank you", even though I could have went out and attacked the uncappable and get more kills, points.

Woooosazh.

[disfigured]

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I'm not in favor of a single player answer to jet power, it should be a team effort, and reletively the hardest thing to do as a team, just not impossible. A man to man solution becomes a tit for tat propostion and rarely works well.

A single shoulder fired or single static implacement should be a deterent, not a frozen rope shot on a jet. If it is, it should be rare, and on an inexpereinced pilot.

I think the balance is "off". Not out of place. The aircraft have to be the top of the food chain, I just wish there was some pirana like weapons for ground troops that they could use en masse.

I love the helio/AT balance right now. Against a good pilot you have to do some scrambling and cover, and alone your not very succussful unless the exact right set of circumstances fall into place. Even though I get toasted a good majority of the time, it makes for intense gaming. I wouldn't want it to be easier to kill choppers.

Actually there is: taking out an enemy jet with an AT rocket--in mid-air. It's difficult, but it can be done in the right situation.

PM me. Because I have tried everything. I'd just like to do it once, to say I did it. I was fairly good at it in 42'. But it seems no matter how slow a jet comes in, or how much I lead them, or compensate, the programming just won't budge.

I liked the videos, but I've destroyed more aircraft then is humanly imaginable. Comming from the BF 42' CTF community, it was legitmate strategy to " cancel all flights" for a long as was possible, wherever and whenever possible. Especially right after a flag steal, since pilots were the only ones that could catch up with a speeding jeep, or a fly by scooped flag carrier.

[Talus]

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its my fav. map , with the black-hawk --> black-hawk+Nice Squad = Teamplay

If you love to squad in the BH post-patch, then I'm with you.

[Cyborg_Soldier]

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I'm a 100% ground pounder. On rare occasion I'll grab a tank or helo.
Tanks, vechicles.. seem balanced, make the game interesting.
Gotta agree with Disfiqured on the Helo balance... Helos make the game exciting and they can be taken down easy enough.

But the F***ing jets can be out of control with the constant bombing - All that work getting to a base. Your squad takes out 5 or 6 enemies and now your flag is on the way up the pole and here comes that same A-hole in the jet to get his easy 4 or 5 kills in one bomb drop on the flagple... and now I see this post -> Pilots get abused so badly -> No sympathy here at all.

I group pilots in with Lawyers and Nuclear weapons; Their mere existence necessitates their possesion/employment etc... Get rid of all of them

BUT if we ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO HAVE JETS then I can't help but agree and say that TK's on runways should probably not count against the pilot. People should'nt be driving or standing on a active runway.

[HowieMandel]

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Pilots get abused?

What about the guys on the ground, trading shots with the enemy, mono e mono, a peep here, shoot. Peep there, shooot. Trying desperatly to outgun your opponant. Only to be wiped out by something you cant even see, droping 5 cluster bombs..........oh and the pilot killed his team mate as well in this, albeit typical scenerio.
If BF2 is so vehical based, how come i can never seem to find a chopper, a plane, a tank, and apc, or even a humvee laying around?
BF2 is first person shooter based, with vehicals thrown in for some extra fun. Its not all about vehicals........der.

[Chris_Redfield]

Re: Pilots get abused so badly

I'm a 100% ground pounder. On rare occasion I'll grab a tank or helo.
Tanks, vechicles.. seem balanced, make the game interesting.
Gotta agree with Disfiqured on the Helo balance... Helos make the game exciting and they can be taken down easy enough.

But the F***ing jets can be out of control with the constant bombing - All that work getting to a base. Your squad takes out 5 or 6 enemies and now your flag is on the way up the pole and here comes that same A-hole in the jet to get his easy 4 or 5 kills in one bomb drop on the flagple... and now I see this post -> Pilots get abused so badly -> No sympathy here at all.

I group pilots in with Lawyers and Nuclear weapons; Their mere existence necessitates their possesion/employment etc... Get rid of all of them

BUT if we ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO HAVE JETS then I can't help but agree and say that TK's on runways should probably not count against the pilot. People should'nt be driving or standing on a active runway.

So, its the pilots fault that you group around the flag like on a barbeque party? You know that flag just neutralized is like a BEACON to a bomber? A friggin BEACON! A sign- HERE, BOMB ME! IM HERE!

[Cyborg_Soldier]

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real simple, the SQUAD LEADER stays back at a safe distance and the rest of the squad gets in flag radius to capture as fast as possible... unfortunately it's hard to find a good SL
what it boils down to is that I'd like to see a ranked server option for no aircraft... IMO it would be a very popular option..
until then you can keep racking up your easy 3,4,5 at a time kills - if you're a good pilot I want you on my team - mere existence necessitates possesion/employment etc
I agreed with your point about runway tk's, but I had to throw in a rant about the fact that MANY players just find aircraft annoying and hearing Pilots get abused so badly is'nt going to garner much sympathy

[Darthdean1600]

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ya I have had the f 35 problems too. i find that the easiest ways to stop getting tks are to hover and then take off , or put the nose of the jet straight down and hit full and afterburners and then it goes under that part of the ship that sticks out and flips around and shoots off like a rocket. Ya it only works at that area but even though it might not always work its better than getting tks.

[imported_SpungE]

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I like to go in a server that has ts with admin on, believe me... When you've got a mic and you tell em whats going on the idiots wont last a second.

[HowieMandel]

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hehe nice colbert siggy..........him and John Stewart....are my hero's.
Same with Mo. Reminds me of this:

Fool me once....... Fool Me Once............ Fooled me once, cant get fooled again.

An old texas saying, apparently.

[UnknownSoldier]

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I'm a 100% ground pounder.

Gee, big surprise there. Anyone notice how its always people that have never flown a plane that can't seem to deal with them? Learning how to fly a plane is the best way to learn how to counter them.

But the F***ing jets can be out of control with the constant bombing - All that work getting to a base. Your squad takes out 5 or 6 enemies and now your flag is on the way up the pole and here comes that same A-hole in the jet to get his easy 4 or 5 kills in one bomb drop on the flagple... and now I see this post -> Pilots get abused so badly -> No sympathy here at all.

Ever heard of "taking cover"? Get under something or next to a building/treeline. Artillery is every bit as devastating in that situation, yet you don't hear people whining that they should get rid of it.

...what it boils down to is that I'd like to see a ranked server option for no aircraft... IMO it would be a very popular option...

It already exists--it's called Special Forces. If you're incapable of learning how to deal with planes then go play it or on a city map server instead of coming on here and whining. I agree that the title of this thread is a little silly, and pilots don't really deserve sympathy, but if you think that planes should be removed entirely then you deserve a good bombing.

So, its the pilots fault that you group around the flag like on a barbeque party?

LOL, well put! If your squad is all cluster-f***ed together then you're just begging to get bombed or artied.

[Chris_Redfield]

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Learning how to fly a plane is the best way to learn how to counter them.

Thats true. If you have bombed targets, youd know what a pilot aims at, in order to get a kill. You cant see infantry units from far, so you cant line up your shots. So basically you just have to aim for the "magnets" that attract infantry. Flagpoles, center of the bases. Asset spawns. And so on.

[imported_Nefarious]

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I'm a 100% ground pounder

Okay, that doesnt sound good.

Anyway, I hate two types of pilots. 1. Pilots that cant fly. And 2. Smart-a** pilots. Noob pilots try there best to get a plane, cant use flares, prematurally drops bombs/missles, and when the come over the carrier to restock, they crash into the deck, right where I am waiting for a plane. Smart-a** pilots are good pilots that tk for fun. I've seen it tons of time. they get a plane, there angry they tk me or bomb me. But, I do have a question. If crappy pilots shouldnt fly, how will they get better? (in combat)