An AA Auto-aim suggestion?

[troybob]

So the jets have auto aim. Don't tell me they don't, because I can prove they do. This was known even before BF2 hit the shelves.

Question:

Do you think it would be advantagous (sp?) to equip the mobile AA vehicle cannons with the same auto aim system?

Abstract:

I don't think it would off-balance things, as auto-aim only seems to work versus jets and not helicoptors. But in the DC days it was easy to see the tracers in relation to the jet. But in the melee (sp?) of BF2, it's hard to see those thin tracer rounds at range. I'm a hell of a good mobile AA user, but it seems as if it's TOO much work to down an aircraft with guns only.

And to test that I was on kubra after a night at the bars (pubs for you euros). I thought "Hey, lets see how well these mobile AA guns work" and I resisted using missiles no matter how much the enemy pilot made a good target of himself.

Maybe it's a question of power, because the hits I did score didn't seem to phase the plane. But I think the auto-aim would be a great help in keeping the balance going.

Keep in mind though, that auto-aim doesn't work in all situations (as any pilot knows). It's only effective in straight in or out scenarios.

Your Turn:

What do you think? Should the mobile AA guns get the same auto-aim as the jet cannons? (perhaps not the bradley, since that seems pretty potent per shot).

[colony]

Re: An AA Auto-aim suggestion?

err what auto aim for jets?

on another note, I feel jets should be equipped with 1 sensor fuse smart bomb which can take out an armored division of 40 vehicles in seconds.

[Splinter]

Re: An AA Auto-aim suggestion?

If jets have auto aim cannons then how come I cant hit sh*t with them???

[troybob]

Re: An AA Auto-aim suggestion?

If jets have auto aim cannons then how come I cant hit sh*t with them???

because it only works when the jet is within the circle of the HUD

and it also can't compensate for jets flashin across your hud in a vertical fashion. Chase a jet in bomb view (so they don't hear a lock) and line em up. Fire the cannon and notice the tracers follow the jet during "straightening" maneuvers. The auto-aim doesn't work if the jet takes evasive manuevers. Auto-aim only works within that circle.

Auto aim won't work if the jet is taking a tight turn. Because that jet has to stay in the circle until the shell hits him.

And for those who weren't aware that auto-aim existed, check the opening movie when starting the game. Right at the beginning, a J10 chases an F18. Watch the tracers of the J-10. The stay fixed while the jet moves. Proof enough? (I know of Auto-aim because i use it when it's convenient)

[Batausu]

Re: An AA Auto-aim suggestion?

OMG, another exploit! Jets have auto cannons!
Nerf! Nerf! Nerf!

[Heatseeker_no.1]

Re: An AA Auto-aim suggestion?

Yep, Just get rid of the auto aim on jets, I don't need it, not that I ever noticed anyway. Mobile AA are already powerful enough.

Or don't try and change the game at all because we all know, when EA try this the jets cannons will probably stop working at all or start firing missiles :laugh:

[IAJTHOMAS]

Re: An AA Auto-aim suggestion?

If jets have auto aim cannons then how come I cant hit sh*t with them???

They soding well auto-aim at my own team when I'm ground straffing with them... :cry:

[zipp0r]

Re: An AA Auto-aim suggestion?

theres no auto aim rofl

[kittenslayer]

Re: An AA Auto-aim suggestion?

If jets have auto aim cannons then how come I cant hit sh*t with them???

Yeah!

[Angelsoul]

Re: An AA Auto-aim suggestion?

Well as I see it, planes can see you much sooner than if you sit in a AA/Mobile AA.

Tryed it in SP. When in bomb mode you get a green box around potential groundtargets. But since they nerfed the ground AA the AA can't lock on a plane, until it is approx. 100 meters from you. But the plane have a lock on you even if its approx. 200-300 meters away.

IRL AA have a range of 3 km. So why couldn't they just nerf they plane targeting system for bomb mode, while they nerfed the AA?

And back to topic. Would only be fair if the mobile AA have auto targeting, since it have radar, right?

Lately I have also notiched that even if you have a lock on a chopper, while in a mobile AA, the AA missle just fly past it? I haven't been much in AA at all since I don't wanna get negative points for hitting friendly planes/choppers.

Even with auto-aim on cannons, you still need skill to hit with em.

[Dooshy]

Re: An AA Auto-aim suggestion?

Wait...Im not sure I understand this term of "auto-aim." Your telling me that the cannons on the planes like move towards the plane even if im not aiming at it - as long as the are insicde the middle circle? Thats crazy

[imported_extremepilot]

Re: An AA Auto-aim suggestion?

Your point was not clear at all and you only mentioned the word 'cannon' twice and it was not in the same sentence as the word 'jet'. Please practice making topics somewhere else

[Chris_Redfield]

Re: An AA Auto-aim suggestion?

I would not be against the idea of ground AA seeing a jet sooner, but keeping the lock-on distance at a range from which the ground AA doesnt have a considerable advantage over the jet.

As for auto-aim- nope, never noticed it, never saw it function. I will try this out in 2 days for sure, just to prove you wrong :P .

The problem with auto-aim is that it has to lead the target. I think a better solution would be an option switch to either leave the cannon to AI, and/or switch it to your manual control as soon as you want. If you use AI- lock on, it will come at a range cost, however hits and likely to hit dead-on.

[troybob]

Re: An AA Auto-aim suggestion?

Your point was not clear at all and you only mentioned the word 'cannon' twice and it was not in the same sentence as the word 'jet'. Please practice making topics somewhere else

my topic is perfectly clear. perhaps english is not your primary language.

Wait...Im not sure I understand this term of "auto-aim." Your telling me that the cannons on the planes like move towards the plane even if im not aiming at it - as long as the are insicde the middle circle? Thats crazy

yes. and it's not crazy.

theres no auto aim rofl

yes there is. trust me.

The problem with auto-aim is that it has to lead the target.

in jets, this is why most people say "why can't i hit people". It's not uber auto-aim, and it doesn't lead the target - it just points the cannon at the jet.

though you have a point, hitting a jet going sideways across the sccreen you'd have to lead ahead and put the plane outside the circle, thus negating auto-aim. But it would help for planes coming right at you or directly away from you (like when the turn)

As for auto-aim- nope, never noticed it, never saw it function. I will try this out in 2 days for sure, just to prove you wrong :P .

simply watch the opening sequence of the game. it's also visible in the "loop" movie during login (but not once you login - then its a video of commander mode)

doesn't anyone know that this exists?

[phen0m]

Re: An AA Auto-aim suggestion?

LOL Autoaim in jets, this is a new F U N N A Y! Thanks for my laugh of the day.